EPTSo that's my story to start the discussion - what kind of BM pisses you guys off the most?
[Q] What kind of BM pisses you off the most?
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OMin
United States545 Posts
So that's my story to start the discussion - what kind of BM pisses you guys off the most? | ||
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Seltsam
United States343 Posts
When someone is winning and then they call you a noob or something. Being called a noob isn't that big of a deal, but if they like barely win... Basically people who can't be gracious winners. I hate that. I am not going to get into a huge rant here, but I feel like sportsmanship is an integral part of the evolution of the game as a reputable professional endeavor and every time I run into a cocky victor, I get a little pissed. | ||
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Tempest[OEC]
United States417 Posts
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Seltsam
United States343 Posts
On December 24 2010 07:22 Tempest[OEC] wrote: I dont mind when people insult me and rage. I get a nice laugh out of it. But when people gg for me when I lose a game, I get so pissed. YES! UGH I HATE that. "GG" is a concession of defeat. The winner can't just concede defeat FOR you. Fuckin' hate thatttttt. | ||
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LazyMacro
976 Posts
- Types "gg" before I can when I'm clearly about to lose - Types "gg" and then refuses to leave - Blatantly and intentionally prolongs the game | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32073 Posts
Only time is when I lose a game bad but then I'm really more mad at myself than anythign thats said | ||
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djcube
United States985 Posts
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
The only thing that would remotely piss me off is someone massing up a whole bunch of units and then saying gg before his attack ^^ | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
Like people who say "gg  " or make negative or retarded comments followed by "".It is fucking retarded and tilts me like no other. As Nony said when he was drunk "And he makes a smiley face because... he is like twelve". | ||
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On December 24 2010 07:22 Tempest[OEC] wrote: I dont mind when people insult me and rage. I get a nice laugh out of it. But when people gg for me when I lose a game, I get so pissed. This ^^ Worst type of BM out there. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Only thing that tilts me is when someone does the offensive gg bullshit. I don't care if someone calles me a noob, chobo, whatever (because honestly I am) but when someone says gg to me before I feel the game is actually decided that engrages me quite a bit. This is the one thing that usually results in me being BM right back at them, I just despise it. | ||
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
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Pholon
Netherlands6142 Posts
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On December 24 2010 07:22 Tempest[OEC] wrote: I dont mind when people insult me and rage. I get a nice laugh out of it. But when people gg for me when I lose a game, I get so pissed. Yep. This is the worst. | ||
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FXOTheoRy
United States519 Posts
On December 24 2010 08:30 DyEnasTy wrote: I dunno. I BM quite often. But ONLY when Ive completely outplayed my opponent, or have been winning the entire time and something terrible happens. Or when a super abusive strat gets out and you face it over and over and over. So in conclusion, I always BM strat abusers, 1 base all in noobs, and lame cheese or failed cheese attempts. Oh lulz. BM can't be justified. | ||
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Seltsam
United States343 Posts
NEVER to my opponent's face. Well sometimes in response to their BM. One time I started building crap all over the map after an offensive GG just to buy enough time to lecture him on why the offensive gg is BM. I aim to inform! | ||
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OMin
United States545 Posts
On December 24 2010 08:34 Seltsam wrote: I BM after pretty much every loss, blaming imbalance (damn you, EMP), my opponent's abusive strat, etc. But only to people on vent or skype or something. Or just to myself (usually out loud). Then I calm down after like 30 seconds, stop blaming imbalance (damn you, EMP!), abusive strats (bansheeeeeeeeeessss) or whatever and just try to work around them. NEVER to my opponent's face. Well sometimes in response to their BM. One time I started building crap all over the map after an offensive GG just to buy enough time to lecture him on why the offensive gg is BM. I aim to inform! i get the feeling your words wont get through to someone immature enough to offensive gg to start with lol | ||
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Seltsam
United States343 Posts
On December 24 2010 08:36 OMin wrote: i get the feeling your words wont get through to someone immature enough to offensive gg to start with lol No, they won't. Absolutely not. But I get to feel smugly superior, and that's what's really important. | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
Opponent BM doesn't really bother me, I do have problems with people on my team who starts talking shit about another teammate (3+v3+) though. | ||
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fAnTaCy
United States893 Posts
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Seltsam
United States343 Posts
I just... when someone starts being a dick completely unprovoked, I just.. I don't get it. What goes through these people's heads that makes them think that that would be a good idea, or at all constructive? Like if you're winning, what would possess you to start being an ass about it? I just don't get it. It absolutely baffles me. Do they think they're doing you some kind of favor? Or are they really so self-serving that they'd risk damaging someone else's self-esteem just to get a cheap laugh? I mean, obviously if some random BM in a video game damages your self-esteem, you probably need to work on being more secure, but the BM-er certainly isn't considering that. I just... Yeah. I just don't get why people have to be dicks. And to answer another question that's been raised a couple of times: it's not the things people say. Using specific words isn't what makes BM; it's the offensive intent. Someone is TRYING to be a dick to you. They are intentionally trying to attack you, be it emotionally or psychologically. Malicious intent is offensive because it's intended to be offensive. It's not about what they say at all. It's just that they're being assholes. | ||
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Soulforged
Latvia918 Posts
Worse, when people are so clueless they don't know how behind they are. Even worse, when people call me a hacker a minute into the game and persist all game long. Obviously, after game they usually turn out to be cheating themselves (like 90% of them). When people join the game and leave on count down. Or ask max rank and leave. Or pause for longer than a minute. Or drop hack. The worst - map spoofs in obs games and scv gas stack allins. Many, many things can piss me off. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
"Play your best  "I'm like "um, ok" "no protoss below 2,5k can beat me pvp.." "yeah ok" "you'll see "He goes for a cannon rush which I completely ignore, I just build away from the cannons and put down a nexus in my second nat and start pressuring with stalkers. I get a bunch of probe kills and my 4 gate kicks in but I can't attack him head on because he has a couple of cannons by his nexus. Then naturally he's transitioned into dt and I don't really have time to react despite having a vastly superior army/economy. Then I gg and he says "see what did I tell you" and he continues messaging me after the game even though I'm clearly not interested in talking. Something very annoying about that, especially considering how close the game was. T_T But the generic "fu noob mh user" never bothered me much. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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Gecko
United States519 Posts
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
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Sarang
Australia2363 Posts
If I'm offensive GG'd I'll sometimes instruct the gg'er that the loser GG's first, not the winner - if they think that I believe they're an idiot, it would probably annoy them ... but it's not as satisfying for me. I still think the best way to deal with any kind of BM is to snap off a witty one-liner then put them on ignore. | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
In my experience there is a lot of Teamliquiders who don't have the same morality as BW players did. You'd always gg, and it was a rare occurrence on ICCup for people to not GG. The only exception was in the D ranks. The less skilled people are, the less they care about gaming etiquette. Anyone who climbed from D to -> C to -> B could agree with that. But anyways, I digress, I just find it dumb that people hate offensive GG but won't even GG themselves. Kind of makes the offensive GG in my eyes worth it - I actually do it against people who I know don't GG. What are they complaining for then? Why would it piss them off? | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
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Sarang
Australia2363 Posts
On December 24 2010 09:42 SCC-Faust wrote: For the people saying offensive gging... do you GG when you lose? In my experience there is a lot of Teamliquiders who don't have the same morality as BW players did. You'd always gg, and it was a rare occurrence on ICCup for people to not GG. The only exception was in the D ranks. The less skilled people are, the less they care about gaming etiquette. Anyone who climbed from D to -> C to -> B could agree with that. But anyways, I digress, I just find it dumb that people hate offensive GG but won't even GG themselves. Kind of makes the offensive GG in my eyes worth it - I actually do it against people who I know don't GG. What are they complaining for then? Why would it piss them off? Not gg'ing = "I dont' think that was a good game." Offensive gg'ing = "You've lost, now gtfo noob." One is far more offensive and frustrating to deal with than the other. | ||
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Animostas
United States568 Posts
People that talk to me after the game, after they won also bug the hell out of me. I had a person actually commentate the replay to me through chat, saying like "You should have had another Gateway. WHOA DUDE. QUEUED 3 PROBES, HUGE MACRO ERROR." | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
Also, when people use a cheapass strategy (Bancheese, 3 marine allin) and then say how much i suck as they kill me. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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metamage1
Canada29 Posts
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Kalingingsong
Canada633 Posts
ppl who BMs or ppl who can't handle it? | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On December 24 2010 10:45 Kalingingsong wrote: who's worse off? ppl who BMs or ppl who can't handle it? That must be the most insightful thing I've ever read on Teamliquid. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On December 24 2010 08:30 DyEnasTy wrote: I dunno. I BM quite often. But ONLY when Ive completely outplayed my opponent, or have been winning the entire time and something terrible happens. Or when a super abusive strat gets out and you face it over and over and over. So in conclusion, I always BM strat abusers, 1 base all in noobs, and lame cheese or failed cheese attempts. Oh lulz. Well when i read TL and see your posts for now, i can just skip them because I know your opinion is worthless thanks for that! | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
today some 227 apm, who had the most retarded third base that i couldn't scout (it was one at 3 in FS + got hydra busted before so i got super suspicious) D zerg was talking trash to me, calling me a "noob protoss" and saying i should "quit" and "l2p instead of turtle" i told him to stfu and stop shit talking at D =) he just responded with a "u suck noob" sigh winner BMers ftw -.- | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
Nobody should ever get cocky in BW, because there is always somebody better than them. | ||
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
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nalho
United States351 Posts
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
I can Clearly remember this PvP I was playing on Xel'naga caverns; I was trying out new this FE into mass warpgate play that I saw Adelscott do on a Day[9] daily. At a very early point in the game a Threw down a fast nexus, which my opponent tried to kill --I successfully held him off and saved my expansion. Feeling very accomplished I kept throwing down more warpgates and massing a HUGE Zealot Stalker army. I was preparing to take my third when I heard a particular sound: the blade of a dark templar. I forgot the Forge part of the build (I didn't have a robo either) and he had 2 DT's, one in each of my mineral lines. Needless to say I was pissed, I felt I pulled of this build relatively well but then lost to something stupid. Then he said: gg I immediately left the game | ||
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BROotogy
Eritrea149 Posts
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Seltsam
United States343 Posts
On December 24 2010 10:00 SouthRawrea wrote: Sometimes you kinda want to GG before the other person though. Especially if it should be evident to the both of you that the game is already over. I.E. The other person is turtling hardcore on 1 base for 15 minutes, you wreck their base and lose your army but you can macro your army back and your opponent is almost mined out. Offensive GGs are never a socially acceptable act. It will always be interpreted as BM, regardless of your intention. My thoughts on the subject in detail: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=177592 | ||
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TheKing
Australia186 Posts
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HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
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tyr
France1686 Posts
Not only in sc2, but in hon too where its pretty well known that the community is total shit. I usually laugh at everything but still can't stand offensive ggs. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
Every once in a while there's the "noob, get a life" comment, which makes me laugh because I have a life.  Even offensive gging isn't that infuriating. In fact, I just say "lol gg", and I get out of there. Afterwards, I just shake off the loss and keep going. I think at one point, I accidentally offensive gged....lol.....so don't know what to say about that experience. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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fun note: zephyr didn't realize to immediately leave but he did eventually. I then smashed the assholes 1v2. so that felt good | ||
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Seltsam
United States343 Posts
On December 25 2010 03:08 travis wrote: so im playing with liquidzephyr from this site, we are playing 2v2. his monitor turns off during the game and he says "i hope u can win 1v2 my monitor just stopped working". I try to pause and say my allies monitor stops working. opponents immediately resume. i try again, they resume. i try again, they resume. they then rush my ally. fun note: zephyr didn't realize to immediately leave but he did eventually. I then smashed the assholes 1v2. so that felt good Hah! I've done stuff like that in team games. There was a 4v4 once where our opponents did a bunch of 6pools/marine rushes/zealot rushes, killed two of our allies, and left just my 2v2 partner and me. Our allies proceeded to ragequit. "GG," said our opponents. Yeah. We won that game 4v2. But right before they left, we managed to politely inform them that we were both off-racing. It was a 25 minute game, too, so they were pretty well caught up in terms of economy. Well. They weren't. But they could have been. | ||
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CherubDown
United States171 Posts
![[image loading]](http://media.sc2replayed.com/attachments/0/223/634291547600487324.png) And it wasn't even a ranked game. I rine rushed him, TvT | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
nothing more than that | ||
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Jefferino
United States69 Posts
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
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ruxin
United States183 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
2) someone who gg's before I gg when I am losing the game | ||
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Kalingingsong
Canada633 Posts
you know someone mean serious business when they get two accounts just so can continue the BM if one gets blocked. (not to mention that they name one of their accounts after someone else to make it look like they got authority.) | ||
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PaPaLung
Canada51 Posts
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hazelynut
United States2195 Posts
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SpoR
United States1542 Posts
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RawrAnOcean
United States359 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
..and he wears a blade... | ||
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
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djcube
United States985 Posts
I leave without typing "gg," which apparently is bad mannered in sc2. I have no issue with people not typing "gg" after they lose; it's natural to feel angry about a loss. Anyway, apparently he takes this as bm and asks "no gg?" I say "nope" and he then begins to tell me how he's the superior player and that he "outclassed me in every aspect of the game." Of course, I have no idea how to navigate the bnet interface so I can't squelch him (if there even is a way) and have to sit there while he shits on me. | ||
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
On December 24 2010 07:22 Tempest[OEC] wrote: I dont mind when people insult me and rage. I get a nice laugh out of it. But when people gg for me when I lose a game, I get so pissed. Same thing I HATE it, it's annoying!!! Cause you might even be winning and the person thinks he is winning and just calls GG, it's ANNOYING!! sorry for the caps but it is!! | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
I always offensive GG and make scouts/queens when that happens. | ||
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
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