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Offensive “GG”s: the Social Faux Pas

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Seltsam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
December 17 2010 06:22 GMT
#1
In any social gathering that takes place over long periods of time, certain social norms and taboos unique to that group begin to form. Battle.net acts as a typical host to a certain kind of subculture: the gamer. As hobbyists and competitors meet on this plane and converse with one another via forums, emails, instant messengers, live streams and so forth, online games, being no exception to the evolution of social interactions, form their own subculture.

The social paradigm in Starcraft 2 parallels that of most other online games, but most of these cultural attributes present themselves before and after a game, as well as between games. One such attribute is the “GG.” While literally, “GG” simply translates as “Good Game,” a simple acronym, the act of typing “GG” to one’s opponent means significantly more.

Think of “GG”s as “please” and “thank you” in American Culture. You’re in a restaurant. You order food, and the server brings it to you. You let the server place it on the table. Typically, etiquette would dictate that you say “thank you” (or some variation thereof), rather than simply ignoring the server’s act of bringing you food. But imagine you didn’t say anything. It’s not the WORST thing in the world, and while generally considered to be poor manners, your lack of verbalized thanks would typically be overlooked quickly. However, now imagine you didn’t say “thank you,” and the server says “you’re welcome” before you get a chance to (or perhaps you didn’t intend to say “thanks” at all). That pre-emptive “you’re welcome” will always come off as sarcastic or otherwise poorly mannered. The offensive “GG” functions, in terms of social etiquette, the same as a “you’re welcome” before a “thank you” functions in typical American social situations.

I know it’s not that big of a deal, but I just find something incredibly annoying about doing my best to fend off a heavy attack only to be met with the “GG” from the attacker. It doesn’t conform with the relevant social etiquette (in other words, it’s bad manners), and hell, maybe I have an expansion he hasn’t scouted. Maybe I am about to warp in 6 High Templar and storm all his shit. He doesn’t know. He should just play until I’m ready to leave (also a loser’s prerogative), at which point I should say “GG” (after which, he’s cleared to say “GG” back) and promptly leave. I should be allowed to exhaust all options that I feel I have left before leaving the game.

Of course, the defender (or possibly game’s loser) isn’t completely impervious to bad-manners. There are obviously plenty of things that you can do if you’re about to lose that are as annoying to do as offensive “GG”s, but that’s another issue.

The point here is just to explain why I feel offensive “GG” are poor manners, since sometimes people who do it don’t realize it’s considered rude.
So don’t call any offensive “GG”s!

Being nice and being on the internet don’t have to be mutually exclusive. Be nice!


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greenDron
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)94 Posts
December 17 2010 06:22 GMT
#2
thats why they do it yo;;; pisses opponent off
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Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
December 17 2010 06:26 GMT
#3
I agree that is is a very impolite move--I would say even worse than something like a manner CC.
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 17 2010 06:26 GMT
#4
you get offended way to easily.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
December 17 2010 06:27 GMT
#5
Offensive GGs are offensive? I thought that's why they got the name!

But yeah, good luck trying to tell people to be mannered online lol. Mannered people will stayed mannered most of the time, but

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vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
December 17 2010 06:31 GMT
#6
It's just something that you have to deal with.... If they do an offensive GG, don't get too riled up about it. Focus on your aspect of the game
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 17 2010 06:39 GMT
#7
Offensive GG is usually my cue to build pylons everywhere.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
December 17 2010 06:41 GMT
#8
I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of people who do offensive gg's know what it implies. Being on the internet doesn’t mean you can't be nice, but at the same time, anonymity means that being a dick has few real repercussions.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4421 Posts
December 17 2010 06:52 GMT
#9
I do it all the time when i know the opponent can't win and is just stalling for time (IE building supply depots everywhere or flying buildings all over the map etc).
I think you're taking it a little too seriously.
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Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
December 17 2010 06:58 GMT
#10
every time, without fail, that i get offensive gg'd i float my buildings or build pylons on the map. i take it as super offensive and i do every possible thing to annoy the opponent, i have time to waste, i hope it irritates him when i cost him 5 extra min trying to kill me when i alt tab and watch huk livestream.

fuck those offensive gg players. i hate them without fail.
"How hard could it be?" -J. Clarkson
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
December 17 2010 07:01 GMT
#11
I can deal with any sort of bad manner besides offensive gg's. I'd rather be flamed after the game or something than be offensive gg'ed - and it always seems to be by someone doing some form of cheese and a BO win. I throw out all forms of courtesy when i'm offensive gged. Be forewarned.
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Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
December 17 2010 07:10 GMT
#12
On December 17 2010 16:01 Comeh wrote:
I can deal with any sort of bad manner besides offensive gg's. I'd rather be flamed after the game or something than be offensive gg'ed - and it always seems to be by someone doing some form of cheese and a BO win. I throw out all forms of courtesy when i'm offensive gged. Be forewarned.


basically sums up my opinion on the matter, better articulated than myself, though. lol
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Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
December 17 2010 07:35 GMT
#13
I either say nothing, or tell them they're saying gg at the wrong time. I figure it's less satisfying for the offensive gg'er if they believe the recipent to their rudeness considers them misinformed, rather than insulting.

I don't do that if I can win though. There is nothing greater than being gg'd ... then crushing your opponents army and winning the game. Nothing.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-19 08:32:18
December 17 2010 07:38 GMT
#14
Come on OP. It's just a game. Wrap your head around it and just enjoy the game.
Winners GG is part of gamesmanship, No need to go through the labors of elaborating of social norms and etiquette to complain about your pwnage. xd

Better yet, practice harder so you can get some winners gg of your own

GG xd
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Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
December 17 2010 07:40 GMT
#15
I don't bother replying people who gg's me when they are winning the game.

Either that, or when i gg, the opponent doesn't reply me with a gg, which seems to irritate me more than the one above. Am i kind of weird?
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ragingfungus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States271 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 07:45:58
December 17 2010 07:45 GMT
#16
Clearly the best way to counter this is to win the game after they gg you.
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KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
December 17 2010 07:45 GMT
#17
I tell all my lower friends that i play with to NEVER EVER offensive GG. Top leagues already has enough BM guys, they don't need one more. This is just going to make the game less enjoyable for a new player.
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happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
December 17 2010 07:46 GMT
#18
On December 17 2010 15:39 Zim23 wrote:
Offensive GG is usually my cue to build pylons everywhere.


hahaha so true! make the game as long as possible
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
December 17 2010 07:47 GMT
#19
whenever someone offensive gg's me i go around the map building stuff if i have money to purposefully prolong the game. they will pay in some way for their bm
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Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
December 17 2010 07:54 GMT
#20
I think its important to try to teach people and tell them when they're being rude, rather than being rude back. It's worth the effort when it does work if you can change someone from being an ignorant asshole into someone with manners.
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