Women in Biz/Tech* (*does not include gaming) - Page 4

caelym

United States6429 Posts

December 14 2010 05:06 GMT

#61

On December 10 2010 06:45 pattheflip wrote:
Read it. Women are disenfranchised, so are gamers, not surprised you felt a bit left out.

I'm probably late to the conversation, but I really agree with this guy's point. Being the outcast of an outcast group must feel frustrating. but the thing is... are we even ready to tackle the issue of female representation is esports when esports itself is underrepresented? Could it be that if esports gets bigger, then women is esports will gain more notice? The problem is that there is no one model to represent this gender inequality, so we as a community lack direction in tackling this issue. I bet there'll be people scoffing at your blog because they think that the underrepresentation of esports is a bigger issue, but what's to say they're wrong?

There's also the entertainment factor in all of this. esports and sports in general is not meant for the players, but for the spectators imo. no one watches wnba because the nba is so much better. beach volleyball is popular because you have girls in bikinis. in gaming and esports, women have yet to prove that they can entertain as much as their male counterparts. Do female gamers and women in esports even deserve recognition or support?

i'm posing these questions because even though you may be nerd raging about underrepresentation, it might be that that's the right amount of representation in the current of the game.

edit: lol just realized how i missed out on the entire discussion already. anyway those who think gender has nothing to do with success and representation have a really naive view of the world. gender roles have an effect on pretty much any type of communication and interaction in the game, especially in gaming and esports where the sex ratios are ridiculously skewed. one cannot rationally deny that playing field is different for men and women in esports, especially when you add in the community aspect.

synapse

China13814 Posts

December 14 2010 05:22 GMT

#62

On December 14 2010 13:55 Half wrote:
I really get the impression that theirs still a lot of muted hostility towards women in the SC2 scene from this thread lol. I've seen people make posts along very similar lines concerning Cuban gamers, gay colorblind gamers, all kinds of different "gamer minorities". The same criticisms in this thread were all equally valid there.

Think some people here are just feeling threatened. Nobody likes changes in status quo.

I mean in a sense I see where its coming from. Some people are afraid of a community where ones gains prominence through the lone virtue of having a vagina in a figurative room full of nerds. I get that But at the same time, often its just plain petty.

Some of these posts in this thread seem like downright personal attacks lol.

I'm pretty sure those posts were meant to be personal attacks to some degree. If I understand correctly, a lot of TLers dislike Peanut because she feels the need to let everyone know that she's a girl (gamer). As in, she needs to realize that being a girl does not earn you respect as a gamer.

caelym

United States6429 Posts

December 14 2010 05:30 GMT

#63

On December 14 2010 14:22 synapse wrote:

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I don't think this is too much to do with actually playing the game. Not all forum goers are here to compete. in fact, i think she deserve a good amount of respect of being an active of this community and doing so as a girl because she gives voice to a small subset of this community that is often muted.

CDCramer

United States61 Posts

December 14 2010 07:01 GMT

#64

On December 14 2010 03:46 Flaccid wrote:
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hahahahahahaha i laughed sooooo hard, this thread is getting out of control

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