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So I just bought another copy of the game yesterday so I can make a separate account and random in peace.
I did this because every time I off-raced on my main account I would lose and it was just frustrating to lose hard earned ladder points to opponents I would have otherwise dominated. I just want to have fun and play some fair 1v1's as my off-race! If I'm a platinum Terran / Toss but a diamond Zerg, then why am I forced to play diamond level opponents as Terran and Toss?
The funniest part? I made both identifiers named 'greatfall'. So in effect I have two separate CD keys and B.net IDs with exactly the same name.
Has anyone else contemplated doing the same?
 
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Waste of money imo unless your second account is in different region.
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I totally have. Want to have one main account that I play with frrends etc, and one that I can mass games just by myself, and not care about my record.
I don't know what it is, but for some damn reason I am afraid of losing on my main account. Im like mid platinum, so there is no reason why I should care, yet I do.
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On November 23 2010 03:14 Crawler wrote:
Waste of money imo unless your second account is in different region.
Meh, I have plenty of money that's not the concern. The point is I want to play fair 1v1s with my off-races.
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Still makes me rage that this is what you have to do to have a 2nd account.
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Meh, I have plenty of money that's not the concern. The point is I want to play fair 1v1s with my off-races.
Plenty? Please, buy me my first copy of SC2. I haven't been able to afford it yet.
Isn't custom a good place to play random?
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I really hate this concept on Blizzard's part. Having only one account per cdkey may be perfect for a MMORPG like WoW, but it's utterly frustrating for a competitive game like SC2.
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I did this without thinking about it, bought the regular version added the key to my account. Then I found a copy of the Collectors edition while at work. I reserved it bought it and had two cd keys to use.
I love it. Playing games while random and just work on my weak areas. Ie: I have to fast expand every game and make it a macro game. I lose a lot but I win a lot as well. I am around 51% W:L ratio doing this.
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On November 23 2010 03:19 m4gdelen4 wrote:Show nested quote +
Meh, I have plenty of money that's not the concern. The point is I want to play fair 1v1s with my off-races.
Plenty? Please, buy me my first copy of SC2. I haven't been able to afford it yet. Isn't custom a good place to play random?
customs are only good to a certain extent. If you want decent practice, then the ladder is the far better choice, as with customs you have a high chance of playing someone in bronze or silver, and you have no option to leave the game or wait for a better opponent due to blizzards stupid 30second countdown as soon as you join the lobby.
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I believe you need a good chain of friends you can practice with. If I were to buy another sc2 for a random account I would certainly be doing it to see how I could progress over the ladder. It's a genius idea really.
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Man could you PM me a guest pass from your copy?Would love to try the game out  Thx
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lol, and thats why blizzard made it so that only 1 account per cd key.
if some ppl are willing to pay for multiple copies, mind as well exploit the masses!
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On November 23 2010 03:35 eXigent. wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 03:19 m4gdelen4 wrote:
Meh, I have plenty of money that's not the concern. The point is I want to play fair 1v1s with my off-races.
Plenty? Please, buy me my first copy of SC2. I haven't been able to afford it yet. Isn't custom a good place to play random? customs are only good to a certain extent. If you want decent practice, then the ladder is the far better choice, as with customs you have a high chance of playing someone in bronze or silver, and you have no option to leave the game or wait for a better opponent due to blizzards stupid 30second countdown as soon as you join the lobby.
I agree, although protip: if you want to leave the custom game after the countdown has started, just click menu and logout, then log back in. Everytime I hit a ZvZ, they always do that.
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I generally FFA or TeamRandom when I want to off-race and still end up playing Zerg in TeamRandoms because I have respect for my teammate that I don't know shit about. But, I just off-race on FFAs and I still can DT-rush or mass thor the shit out of everyone :D
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you can just play custom games 
LT is usually full of noobs but i can always find good diamond players on metalopolis.
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Now you have to buy two expansion packs as well... two times!!
hf with that
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On November 23 2010 03:12 GreatFall wrote:
I did this because every time I off-raced on my main account I would lose and it was just frustrating to lose hard earned ladder points
You care about ladder points more than actual money. That's just sad imo? :/
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On November 23 2010 04:10 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 03:12 GreatFall wrote:
I did this because every time I off-raced on my main account I would lose and it was just frustrating to lose hard earned ladder points You care about ladder points more than actual money. That's just sad imo? :/
I care about having fun more than some money. I don't think the ladder points are the main problem. The problem is that if you off race, you will never have a fair fight unless you just lose a shit ton of games in a row and bring your rating down to a level where you can have fun and fair off-race games (and then you're screwed when you want to be challenged playing your main race!). So yea, I don't find it fun to off-race and get completely raped do you?
As for the money, I didn't bust my ass in college followed by 6 years of graduate school to earn my Ph.D. followed by several years on postdoc training so I can be in a situation where I worry about 50 bucks.
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On November 23 2010 04:10 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 03:12 GreatFall wrote:
I did this because every time I off-raced on my main account I would lose and it was just frustrating to lose hard earned ladder points You care about ladder points more than actual money. That's just sad imo? :/
why is having enough money for stuff you care about sad?
If I had the money needed to cover all MY needs, and have extra, I'd buy a bunch of accounts for myself and my brothers and friends.
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On November 23 2010 03:22 minus_human wrote:
I really hate this concept on Blizzard's part. Having only one account per cdkey may be perfect for a MMORPG like WoW, but it's utterly frustrating for a competitive game like SC2.
Yeah, it's frustrating, but I'd rather have this kind of problem than say, mass smurfing. Some smurfs are good to play against using the whole "better competition makes a better player" argument, but then I really think of my year and a half on iccup. Playing against so many smurfs was great for competitive purposes, but what if I don't want to be a competitive gamer? Eliminating this option, though making it a little harder for competitve novices to improve faster, makes the game more accessible to the majority of layed back gamers.
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On November 23 2010 03:22 minus_human wrote:
I really hate this concept on Blizzard's part. Having only one account per cdkey may be perfect for a MMORPG like WoW, but it's utterly frustrating for a competitive game like SC2.
ICCup.. Where D- players play with 262 apm and dead on execution of build orders.
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Shit like this is why companies have the gall to nickel and dime us for shit that used to be free.
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On November 23 2010 04:28 Metalwing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 03:22 minus_human wrote:
I really hate this concept on Blizzard's part. Having only one account per cdkey may be perfect for a MMORPG like WoW, but it's utterly frustrating for a competitive game like SC2. ICCup.. Where D- players play with 262 apm and dead on execution of build orders.
qft!
I felt like my skills have completly disappeared few months ago when I tried iccup and got demolished by "D" level players who reached C- - B in 1-2 weeks. Thanks to blizzard's greediness there's less smurfing in the ladder.
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And thus, Blizzard's game concept has won.
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I feel like it's the lesser of two evils. Sure it causes problems like this, but I don't see how mass smurfing wouldn't be horrible for the ladders. If B.net and ICCup are any indication, there are a lot of people who enjoy getting easy wins against worse players. Thanks to the single account system, the people willing to destroy their own rank for easy games against newer players are few and far between. The vast vast majority of games at bronze through platinum are played against legit bronze through platinum players. Silver players trying to get better who keep running into Diamond-skilled opponents who wipe the floor with them is NOT good for the growth of the game.
For me, this is one of the reasons I've remained random. I only have a few hours a day to play at best, and with medical school coming up I expect that number to go down; if I picked a race I could certainly get better much faster, but I'd also be missing out on 2/3rds of the game. I guess I'd rather be a medium diamond with all three races and get to enjoy all the matchups than be a higher diamond with one and be stuck with just a few.
That certainly doesn't solve problems for people like the OP through, who want to be good with one but still be able to enjoy the others at a lower level.
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It's a gay side effect that if you buy multiple copies Blizzard is the one who is actually winning.
However we don't really have a say since it's your money.
The ideal solution would be Blizzard implementing a system where you have a different ladder account for each race.
My 2's partner wants to try out Zerg really badly [ terran player ] but since he's diamond terran he gets put up against those people while trying out zerg for the very first time.
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On November 23 2010 04:55 Crawler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 04:28 Metalwing wrote:On November 23 2010 03:22 minus_human wrote:
I really hate this concept on Blizzard's part. Having only one account per cdkey may be perfect for a MMORPG like WoW, but it's utterly frustrating for a competitive game like SC2. ICCup.. Where D- players play with 262 apm and dead on execution of build orders. qft! I felt like my skills have completly disappeared few months ago when I tried iccup and got demolished by "D" level players who reached C- - B in 1-2 weeks. Thanks to blizzard's greediness there's less smurfing in the ladder.
I like seeing my apm after games, and thus I look at every single game of mine at bwchart after playing. And when I saw the guy's 262 apm against my 100 (my zerg apm is 100ish and more than my Terran apm and Protoss apm combined), I just used bad language for iccup even though how much I like their work. I think buying an account should have its own cost and conditions. But definitely should not be free.
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I'm playing my off-race right now in diamond, and getting killed most of the time so i've definitely thought about it.
but for now i just don't have the budget for another copy since i'm studying.
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How many ladder points do you have? Unless we're talking 2000+ then they're not really hard earned. In fact I wish I was in bronze league so I can get the cool portraits and then play for real.
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I strongly considered getting a 2nd account but I didn't want to pay $50 again, only to have it become useless when Heart of the Swarm comes out because I'd have to buy 2 expansions etc.
They are missing out on some decent money if they charged $10-20 for a new ladder account that is tied to your bnet account, so you can only have one logged in at a time
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Ladder points are meaningless, unless you're top 200 or something paying money for another account just seems stupid.
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On November 23 2010 05:37 Scarecrow wrote:
Ladder points are meaningless, unless you're top 200 or something paying money for another account just seems stupid.
I inferred the problem as one where you can't get challenging but winnable ladder games in all nine matchups unless all your races are the same skill level. It's not caring about ladder points, it's the need to lose a bunch of games to get where your offraces are, and then re-grind those points in one-sided games on your main so you can get challenged in your best race again.
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I just play with a friend account that doesn't give a shit about multiplayer :O
But yeah I feel you somewhat but this feels too much playing in blizzard's way for me.
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I bought two when it came out. Was considering having one as a smurfing account or giving it as a gift, then watched a stream and the streamer ran out of guest account time, since I wanted to continue watching the stream I gave the key away.
That is an even bigger waste than a smurf account from a personal point of view. ^^
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On November 23 2010 03:12 GreatFall wrote:
The funniest part? I made both identifiers named 'greatfall'. So in effect I have two separate CD keys and B.net IDs with exactly the same name.
Has anyone else contemplated doing the same?
http://sc2ranks.com/team/3705303
3v3 team with all players of the same name.
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On November 23 2010 05:44 Igakusei wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 05:37 Scarecrow wrote:
Ladder points are meaningless, unless you're top 200 or something paying money for another account just seems stupid. I inferred the problem as one where you can't get challenging but winnable ladder games in all nine matchups unless all your races are the same skill level. It's not caring about ladder points, it's the need to lose a bunch of games to get where your offraces are, and then re-grind those points in one-sided games on your main so you can get challenged in your best race again.
You are exactly right. This is the only way I can have a fun and fair challenge with both off-races and on my main.
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