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[TL Subs] Boxer on Come To Play CUT

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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 08:00:13
November 18 2010 05:26 GMT
#1


(T)BoxeR appeared on the October 25th episode of Come To Play(놀러와) with his older(in age) girlfriend Kim Ga Yeon, who is a south-korean actress.
Big thanks to dinki0825 for translating the cut.

****
You can't fight the feeling.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 05:35:58
November 18 2010 05:33 GMT
#2
older as in older than him, or former?

Edit: Stupid question, I recognize here. ><
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
November 18 2010 05:34 GMT
#3
Haha, that's hilarious. I'm pretty sure I've seen the guy with the glasses in a korean comedy show before.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
November 18 2010 05:35 GMT
#4
On November 18 2010 14:33 Karliath wrote:
older as in older than him, or former?


Older as in age :S
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
November 18 2010 05:37 GMT
#5
thanks for subbing, I remember hearing about this beforehand and hoping the team would do it.
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crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 05:40:29
November 18 2010 05:40 GMT
#6
Thanks for the translation.

lol when the guy suggested a vacation at a place without internet, boxer must be like "nooooooooooo" and his GF must be like "YES! no daily 13 hour practice sessions for a week!"
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2450 Posts
November 18 2010 05:41 GMT
#7
wow boxer so good with television stuff..

did not know he met his GF from a gaming event..did she play starcraft also?
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
November 18 2010 05:42 GMT
#8
Hate to be a nit-picker, but at 4:13 Airforce is spelled ariforce :3.

Ty to translator and lokim-nuna for this vid :D.
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
November 18 2010 05:42 GMT
#9
Wow you did the subs yourself?
Thanks alot dude, awesome.
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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
November 18 2010 05:49 GMT
#10
thanks dude that's awesome subbing! Man, boxer is such a sensitive emperor.. the amount of trolling in korea is ridiculous! good thing TL.net bans shit like that
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Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
November 18 2010 05:54 GMT
#11
Im Jung Il lol

Uses too many nukes xD

Nice thanks for sharing~
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Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 18 2010 06:08 GMT
#12
On November 18 2010 14:34 neobowman wrote:
Haha, that's hilarious. I'm pretty sure I've seen the guy with the glasses in a korean comedy show before.


You dont know the great Yoo JaeSeok!?!
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BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
November 18 2010 06:10 GMT
#13
LOL im jong il ahahahahahaha
Tevinhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom470 Posts
November 18 2010 06:16 GMT
#14
I hope whoever nearly made BoxeR cry dies in a car fire.
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
November 18 2010 06:22 GMT
#15
On November 18 2010 15:16 Tevinhead wrote:
I hope whoever nearly made BoxeR cry dies in a car fire.


No, he took his revenge on Grack, he's even with cyber bullies now.

Thanks for the video it was really cute :3
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yuchunyang
Profile Joined August 2009
United States53 Posts
November 18 2010 06:23 GMT
#16
Damn Boxer is so hot
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kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
November 18 2010 06:26 GMT
#17
<3 boxer! such a cool dude :>
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Rensho
Profile Joined November 2010
United States6 Posts
November 18 2010 06:31 GMT
#18
Pretty funny. I lol'd hard at the Im Jong-il joke. Would love to see more of these if they are out there.

Good job with the sub, thanks
Ursadon-n-Pals
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States928 Posts
November 18 2010 06:32 GMT
#19
D: Why was Kim Ga Yeon so sad?

Thanks for the subs!
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tok
Profile Joined April 2010
United States691 Posts
November 18 2010 06:34 GMT
#20
I'm going to go crazy because now every time I see Boxer without slayers in front of it I go, fake boxer right.

Funny video :D
MLG_Wiggin
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States767 Posts
November 18 2010 06:36 GMT
#21
What a baller. He's like my nerd hero.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 18 2010 06:45 GMT
#22
This was awesome. I hope it gets featured on the front page!

Thanks so much to the translator, and thanks for sharing it with us!
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
November 18 2010 06:47 GMT
#23
On November 18 2010 15:23 yuchunyang wrote:
Damn Boxer is so hot

damn koreans >.<
i like how his gf looks at him when the doctor prescribes time without internet haha
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eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
November 18 2010 06:55 GMT
#24
Thanks!! :D
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
November 18 2010 07:03 GMT
#25
nice! Good stuffs.

I loved the Im Jong Il comment. Too funny XD
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SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
November 18 2010 07:10 GMT
#26
ahaha so funny!
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dinki0825
Profile Joined June 2010
United States238 Posts
November 18 2010 07:17 GMT
#27
yay about time this got out
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 18 2010 07:20 GMT
#28
lol was hilarious when he says 'at that time i didnt even know who she was' and she gives him that darkness look lolol
why so 진지해?
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
November 18 2010 07:30 GMT
#29
Wow so awesome. It's really cool and rare to see BoxeR in such a casual situation.
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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
November 18 2010 07:50 GMT
#30
On November 18 2010 15:47 Juliette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 15:23 yuchunyang wrote:
Damn Boxer is so hot

damn koreans >.<
i like how his gf looks at him when the doctor prescribes time without internet haha

lol he's not a real doctor, he's a member from a hip hop group called DJ Doc
You can't fight the feeling.
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
November 18 2010 08:03 GMT
#31
On November 18 2010 16:20 Rekrul wrote:
lol was hilarious when he says 'at that time i didnt even know who she was' and she gives him that darkness look lolol


haha yeah noticed that. Actually also around 0:41-0:45 looked really displeased too. I dont know if its a cultural thing (like "ohoho~ gf is annoyed!" pretend-annoyance or whatever) but those were pretty funny.
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 08:43:21
November 18 2010 08:42 GMT
#32
Haha nice and light hearted. Thank you dinki0825 !
KTY
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
November 18 2010 09:10 GMT
#33
Haha it was funny. I liked it so much. I hope some people of the Liquid members just go to Boxer and show a keyboard to him for fun
And the nicknames lol!

I want more of these :X
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Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
November 18 2010 09:30 GMT
#34
Haha, this is great. Everybody needs to see this as opposed to the stereotypical interviews etc. at proleagues after a win.
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FoBuLouS
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States570 Posts
November 18 2010 09:44 GMT
#35
HAHA IM JONG IL fighting! :p
jk that was awesome though, thanks a lot for the translations
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
November 18 2010 09:58 GMT
#36
thx for translation
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
November 18 2010 10:11 GMT
#37
Boxer seems so relaxed i guess he is used to being famous unlike some of these sc2 players who can't get a word out of their mouths in an interview
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-18 10:29:10
November 18 2010 10:29 GMT
#38
Thanks for this! So thats how they met...playing games. Go figure!
And you can totally tell his gf wants to go on vacation away from the internet, but Boxer just cant do it. XD;
Taengoo ♥
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
November 18 2010 10:30 GMT
#39
Lol at the guy fainting from playing too much SC
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
November 18 2010 12:15 GMT
#40
On November 18 2010 14:41 mel_ee wrote:
wow boxer so good with television stuff..

did not know he met his GF from a gaming event..did she play starcraft also?


Don't call her like this, she hates that people keep calling her his GF while they're engaged :p
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johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
November 18 2010 13:09 GMT
#41
They look like such a sweet couple, we should say more nice things about them to make up for all that negativity =)
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
November 18 2010 13:28 GMT
#42
Thanks for the video, Boxer looking handsome.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
November 18 2010 13:46 GMT
#43
lim jung il is hilarious rofl
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garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
November 18 2010 14:01 GMT
#44
Thanks for the translation!

Boxer is always so good with these public settings. It's really nice to have such a charming guy representing esports.
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deathserv
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States228 Posts
November 18 2010 14:15 GMT
#45
Funny video, thanks for the fansub!
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
November 18 2010 14:17 GMT
#46
I thought they meant OptimusPrime. I was so excited when I saw it was instead that handsome Lim Yo Hwan!

Thanks for translating.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
November 18 2010 14:41 GMT
#47
it was funny!
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ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
November 18 2010 15:04 GMT
#48
On November 18 2010 15:16 Tevinhead wrote:
I hope whoever nearly made BoxeR cry dies in a car fire.

this.
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
November 18 2010 15:39 GMT
#49
im jong il ROFL
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
November 18 2010 15:44 GMT
#50
Lmao, thanks for the translation!

Relaxed and funny, I love Boxer!
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
November 18 2010 15:52 GMT
#51
Awesome work both of you !
Just out of curiosity - why in blogs not bw general?
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
November 18 2010 15:56 GMT
#52
awesome video :D :D :D
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ThemAcorns
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway114 Posts
November 18 2010 15:57 GMT
#53
Awesome work
Still get weirded out by seeing Boxer with other Korean celebs.
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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
November 18 2010 16:15 GMT
#54
On November 19 2010 00:52 Smix wrote:
Awesome work both of you !
Just out of curiosity - why in blogs not bw general?

It's not about bw, and I thought blogs would be the best place. Also, the other cut we did from star golden bell was also in blogs
You can't fight the feeling.
Pablols
Profile Joined August 2009
Chile519 Posts
November 18 2010 16:24 GMT
#55
thank you!
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 18 2010 16:36 GMT
#56
Koreans really look way younger than they are : o This always buffles me.

Anyway really Great work with the translation here. I want more translated korean stuff so you can get in touch with the culture a bit more! =P
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JinNJuice
Profile Joined June 2010
United States255 Posts
November 18 2010 17:35 GMT
#57
Awesome video, thanks for the translations. And lol at the cyber-bullies who made fun of Lim Yo Hwan. Bet they're the ones crying now.

Koreans really look way younger than they are : o This always buffles me.


Also, alot of Koreans do age pretty well, at least the older generation does. Korean food is really healthy for you, not much fat or salt. Lots of factors come into play, but diet has alot to do with it.
dinki0825
Profile Joined June 2010
United States238 Posts
November 18 2010 17:41 GMT
#58
On November 19 2010 02:35 JinNJuice wrote:Korean food is really healthy for you, not much fat or salt.

Korean food might not have much salt but they tend to have very high sodium content (soy sauce, bean paste, etc) and that's the reason why lot of older generation have high blood pressure problems. I do agree on not having much fat though.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
November 18 2010 18:17 GMT
#59
Funny, I actually watched it in a restaurant in Seoul when this was aired. Had to contain my inner nerd when I saw him on telly xD

Thanks for the subs!
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
November 18 2010 18:32 GMT
#60
That was awesome! I love TL subs =D
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QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
November 18 2010 18:39 GMT
#61
On November 18 2010 19:11 Daray wrote:
Boxer seems so relaxed i guess he is used to being famous unlike some of these sc2 players who can't get a word out of their mouths in an interview


Well he's going around with a pretty famous girl and considering the status he earned in his BW era it's only normal to get used to it.

I love videos like this, silly in a way but highly enjoyable.
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xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
November 18 2010 19:02 GMT
#62
ROFL @ lim jung-il

best nickname ever
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
November 18 2010 19:43 GMT
#63
Nice, thanks for translation
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trancey
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
November 18 2010 20:31 GMT
#64
this is so funny. thanks for the upload.
donut boi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States154 Posts
November 18 2010 21:00 GMT
#65
boxer cried when he got cyberbullied... that made me laugh, im sorry
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tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
November 18 2010 21:10 GMT
#66
On November 19 2010 06:00 donut boi wrote:
boxer cried when he got cyberbullied... that made me laugh, im sorry

people say the most ridiculous shit when they do this, so it should come at no surprise that even Boxer would cry
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Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
November 18 2010 21:16 GMT
#67
We need more progamers going on "mainstream" shows to spread e-sports.
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
November 18 2010 21:45 GMT
#68
Aww, the nicknames are so cute :3
dagene
Profile Joined June 2010
United States75 Posts
November 18 2010 22:28 GMT
#69
he specifically said he never cried. only that he almost got to the point of crying.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 18 2010 22:32 GMT
#70
SO cuteeeee.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
November 18 2010 23:00 GMT
#71
what the heck you can get hepatitis from playing too much games? :X
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Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
November 18 2010 23:40 GMT
#72
Boxer cried - no need to lie bro, we all cry.
Thanks for the subs.
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doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
November 18 2010 23:50 GMT
#73
Yo-bung = bung as in bunker.

By the way, true story - this particular show, after being advertised as having Boxer on, was cancelled because of a baseball game that happened to coincide on that same day. The message board of this program was trolled by angry SC fans that day.
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guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
November 18 2010 23:57 GMT
#74
maybe im an e-ass, but i think boxer is out of her league, looks-wise.
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
November 19 2010 00:38 GMT
#75
On November 18 2010 14:54 JSH wrote:
Im Jung Il lol

Uses too many nukes xD

Nice thanks for sharing~



First I lol'd at that... but I guess as South Korean you view that little different... :D


I wouldn't want to get called Hitler for going early gas or something >_<
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
November 19 2010 00:42 GMT
#76
On November 19 2010 06:00 donut boi wrote:
boxer cried when he got cyberbullied... that made me laugh, im sorry


His tears cured 3 cases of childhood leukemia.
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SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
November 19 2010 01:04 GMT
#77
Thanks for subbing that was really entertaining.
Im-Jong-Il for using nukes was hilarious lol
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splints
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada85 Posts
November 19 2010 04:16 GMT
#78
On November 19 2010 09:38 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 14:54 JSH wrote:
Im Jung Il lol

Uses too many nukes xD

Nice thanks for sharing~



First I lol'd at that... but I guess as South Korean you view that little different... :D


I wouldn't want to get called Hitler for going early gas or something >_<
bur

Lol, burst out laughing...

But why is only the 4min out? Anyone have the full video?
Colpan
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States196 Posts
November 19 2010 04:52 GMT
#79
full video on todou

there is the full episode i found
ramen-
Profile Joined September 2009
90 Posts
November 19 2010 05:07 GMT
#80
The subs are kind of small on normal video size, but thanks for the translation!
dinki0825
Profile Joined June 2010
United States238 Posts
November 19 2010 05:09 GMT
#81
On November 19 2010 13:16 splints wrote: But why is only the 4min out? Anyone have the full video?

Because anything outside of those 4min literally has nothing to do with boxer and probably uninteresting to TL community. There are bits about boxer and his gf throughout the episode but everything is just way too scattered as opposed to the 4min that was translated.
You can download full episode here - [url blocked]
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
November 19 2010 14:28 GMT
#82
Awesome job with the translating, thanks! Boxer is my hero
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KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
November 19 2010 21:05 GMT
#83
That piece about the head is really funny.

idk what they think about that in Korea, but in the US we have a saying "The Bigger the Head, the Bigger the Star." It's surprisingly true and apparently the case for not only BoxeR, but many other famous progamers as well.
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Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
November 20 2010 00:30 GMT
#84
I wish we had more =[ Boxer is so good with TV things, true celebrity.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
November 20 2010 03:20 GMT
#85
LOL. Wow, so great. Culture is really different from their perspective.

Thanks for video + translation. xD
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DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
November 20 2010 05:44 GMT
#86
Lols this reminded me of the performance DJ Doc did during the GSL (I forget if it was 1 or 2)
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
November 20 2010 05:51 GMT
#87
GOOD JOB SUB TEAM! love you guys! Im Jong-il loooooooooooooooooooool the emperor on tv is always great!
in The Kong line forever
motherrussia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States24 Posts
November 20 2010 23:13 GMT
#88
Boxer wearing a cross = Boxer is Christian = weird IMO

don't like it
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
November 21 2010 02:35 GMT
#89
On November 21 2010 08:13 motherrussia wrote:
Boxer wearing a cross = Boxer is Christian = weird IMO

don't like it


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dinki0825
Profile Joined June 2010
United States238 Posts
November 21 2010 06:24 GMT
#90
he's catholic to be specific
isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
November 21 2010 10:37 GMT
#91
On November 21 2010 15:24 dinki0825 wrote:
he's catholic to be specific

zing!
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