• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:25
CEST 22:25
KST 05:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202510Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder2EWC 2025 - Replay Pack2Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced26BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update Serral wins EWC 2025 Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Afreeca app available on Samsung smart TV Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
How many questions are in the Publix survey?
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 674 users

My quest for diamond open to the public!

Blogs > Marahumm
Post a Reply
Marahumm
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States98 Posts
November 17 2010 16:52 GMT
#1
Greetings fellow TL-ers!

I'm on a quest for improving my game as a zerg player. Given I have more time now to play the game frequently, I thought I would share with all of you my experiences as I go for Diamond. However, it takes a village to raise a child, and I figured with the help of the community here I could reach my goal a little faster.

It's a mutual relationship: I get constructive criticism from you guys while you guys get supplied noobish games!

The way it works: Each day I will play three ranked matches and supply them on here. If I do any practice matches with friends that I feel should be posted I will post them here as well, but three ranked matches a day will be a good pace for me.

Overall - My macro could really use a boost in efficiency. I feel I'm making drones ok, but it's the lack of spending that's giving me trouble.

Starting Rank:
115 pt Bronze (59/100)

Current Rank:
164 pt Bronze (52/100)

November, 2010
+ Show Spoiler +

11-16-10
+ Show Spoiler +



[image loading]


Thoughts
+ Show Spoiler +

This game was a weird one for me. This guy built two cybernetic cores but didn't issue any upgrades. He also built two stargates but didn't make anything out of them.

I believe my scouting the stargate was too late. I didn't have my lair beginning to morph until I saw the stargate up. I made the attack when I did because I knew that by the time hydras were out he would have had a lot more air units, so harassing was the only option I deemed would work.

However, you'll see in the replay that he only had a couple of units and a few cannons here and there, which made the victory easy to pick up.


[image loading]

Thoughts
+ Show Spoiler +

This game I feel I did the best in. It turned out mostly to be a macro versus turtle game. Three bases to his two let me get more income at a higher rate, and although my macro still blows, it let me get more units out at a faster rate than he could.

However, his cloaked banshees really threw me for a loop. I remember seeing a blip on the minimap for a sec, heading towards my natural. I attempted to follow with a muta to check it out but I couldn't find his units. Banshees didn't even cross my mind until they attacked. Thankfully I managed to hold it off with a morphed overseer and mutas.

I don't know if he was trying to turtle or he felt he was being contained. I felt my worker harass would keep him more on the defensive while I got more workers to get more economy with.


[image loading]

Thoughts
+ Show Spoiler +

My first encounter with BM had me raging a lot harder than I should have, so please excuse my delaying the game as much as I could.

I thought I did alright. Kept him contained and did some fun harass with the supply depots. I think the main issue was that I was too aggressive. Rather than attacking more I probably should have expanded and gotten a better economy. Once he moved out I didn't have enough forces to counter his counter-attack.

Honestly, this game put such a bad taste in my mouth I can't really watch it without getting worked up, so I'll probably need the most help identifying issues with this game the most.






I appreciate any help you can supply. I figured this would be a fun project to work on and involve everyone here with. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

Looks like you mashed some poor fellers dog, Sarge.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
November 17 2010 17:01 GMT
#2
w00t for zerg players :D I will watch the replays and give you feedback in a bit.
Wahaha
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
November 17 2010 17:04 GMT
#3
Good luck man! Before you know it you'll be better than me! And by that I mean like a day or two. Just learn a BO and you'll get to silver.

Learn how to execute that BO and you're in gold/platinum.

Learn how to adapt that BO and you're in diamond!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-17 17:06:08
November 17 2010 17:04 GMT
#4
I'll give you advice I guess.
Macro. Macro macro macro macro macro macro macro macro that's absolutely all there is to it. Once you focus on consistently droning and expanding then anything below diamond (yes even plat) will be a joke to you. I got to diamond in about 5 days and 60 games without knowing any build orders or specific unit combos, just a vague idea of what to get in each matchup. All I had to do was rely on my brood war mechanics and just remember to constantly spend larva
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
November 17 2010 17:15 GMT
#5
On November 18 2010 02:04 SubtleArt wrote:
I'll give you advice I guess.
Macro. Macro macro macro macro macro macro macro macro that's absolutely all there is to it. Once you focus on consistently droning and expanding then anything below diamond (yes even plat) will be a joke to you. I got to diamond in about 5 days and 60 games without knowing any build orders or specific unit combos, just a vague idea of what to get in each matchup. All I had to do was rely on my brood war mechanics and just remember to constantly spend larva


This.

I watched your last replay and your macro was lacking. You lost both your hatches at the 20 minute mark but you had enough money to rebuild them 20 times all over the map. If all that money had been units you'd rolled his one base play easily. If you feel uncomfortable getting a third hatch at an expansion, get an extra inbase hatch instead. Spend that money!
I think esports is pretty nice.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
November 17 2010 17:23 GMT
#6
One giant thing I noticed...........

OMFG rally points!!!!!!!! lol they are your friends, you have a rally point that is specifically for drones, click hatchery then right click a mineral patch. Whenever you build drones they will automatically go mine. Click Hatchery and right click anywhere on the ground, rally point for all other units! :D

Also, macro! Just build guys all the time! Use spawn larva a lot! ANd just pump out units as much as possible. Build more hatcheries if you don't have enough larva. If you focus purely on building units and not on attack you can win! :D You didn't build a single unit the entire time the mutalisks were attacking his base, which was a fantastic attack, but you should have been making stuff back home when it happened (I'm talking about Game 3)
Wahaha
Marahumm
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States98 Posts
November 17 2010 18:27 GMT
#7
Thanks guys, I'll try all these out next chance I get. More than likely I'll focus more on just making sure my resource count stays low all the time.
Looks like you mashed some poor fellers dog, Sarge.
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
November 17 2010 18:33 GMT
#8
OH YEAH BABY !!! MY influence reached ALL THE WAY through TL users who are new to the game, and more people are blogging their way to the D (I'm not saying that I'm the first person doing this around here, but i didn't see people blogging their road to the D, after I blogged my first part, another person blogged his placement matches, some more people started doing this kind of stuff etc.).

You play Zerg ha, good choice man, really. I hope you climb thru the ladder as fast as possible. Good Luck!!!
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
November 17 2010 19:15 GMT
#9
I thought this was a minecraft thread
BW for life !
frogmelter
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States971 Posts
November 17 2010 20:00 GMT
#10
How often are you watching zerg streams?

Watching featured zerg streamers play will make you improve so quickly.

I also advise watching the day9 daily when he does coverage on zerg.

Remember, zerg has the highest mechanic requirement. Be sure to spawn larvae as soon as you can. It's not something you just do when you remember. It's something that you do or you lose instantly.

Spawn larvae.

Spawn larvae.

Spawn larvae.

Spawn larvae.

Spawn larvae.

Spawn larvae.

I'm not kidding. Get that down as quickly as you can.
TL+ Member
red_hq
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
November 17 2010 20:12 GMT
#11
GL man, I think I might do my own but a transition from to or cause I'm in plat already.
It all hinges on the result of GSL3 no toss in Ro4 = I switch to T or Z
Get some 'good' Dota 2: twitch.tv/redhq
Nactive
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium45 Posts
November 17 2010 21:12 GMT
#12
From Bronze it is a long way to Diamond :p.

The thing you need is practice, with practice you will get in plat without problems.
From plat to diam you might need some tricks.
But everything before is just the plain basics of the game witch you learn with practice.

Any way gl & hf.
FrostedMiniWeet
Profile Joined July 2009
United States636 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-17 21:22:57
November 17 2010 21:21 GMT
#13
#1 most important, don't miss larvae injects, and spend your money. Don't worry about battles, don't do anything until your money is spent. If you can't spend it fast enough, make more hatcheries/queens, and don't miss larvae injects.
#2 most important, make overlords ahead of time so you don't get supply blocked
#3 most important, keep a scouting zergling near his base so you can see if he's attacking you. If he's not attacking you, make drones.
#4 most important, try to figure out what units he is going for ahead of time so you know what units you need to make, and how many drones you can get away with. If he's teching, you can generally make more drones, if he's rushing, make less drones more army.
#5 Welcome to diamond, where all you have to do to get there is have some of the basics down reasonably well.
Jimbooo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
203 Posts
November 17 2010 22:20 GMT
#14
Im on the same journy! If you wanna practice ith me it would be great. Ive been in bronze a while and feel llike im improving . Im a Zerg too so i could halp you with what your doing thur. Add me for halps . SicKShoT.681
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RotterdaM Event
17:00
Rotti Stream Rumble All-Random
RotterdaM848
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 848
UpATreeSC 150
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 1094
EffOrt 618
Mind 104
TY 88
sas.Sziky 72
yabsab 60
Free 30
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
syndereN547
League of Legends
Grubby4735
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K997
pashabiceps853
Super Smash Bros
PPMD106
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu542
Other Games
summit1g6736
ToD267
mouzStarbuck215
C9.Mang093
Trikslyr76
Sick53
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 25 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 343
• davetesta71
• StrangeGG 59
• Hupsaiya 57
• LUISG 25
• Adnapsc2 6
• musti20045 2
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki21
• HerbMon 9
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22228
• WagamamaTV872
League of Legends
• Doublelift2866
• TFBlade1169
Other Games
• imaqtpie1556
• Shiphtur671
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
13h 35m
WardiTV European League
19h 35m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 3h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 19h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Online Event
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.