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Veslasquez vs Dos Santos Trailer

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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
November 16 2010 20:14 GMT
#1


Enjoy, comment, im friggin pumped to this fight, its gonna be the great HW fight of recent times.

" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Blondinbengt
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden578 Posts
November 16 2010 20:22 GMT
#2
Have they even set a date for it yet?
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
November 16 2010 20:28 GMT
#3
OK I understand hype behind the confrontation of two top competitors (fuck yeah I'd be excited for a Boxer/Yellow Bisu/JD JD/Flash), but I still don't get the appeal of watching two guys try to beat the shit out of each other, esp. when they're already down.

Yes it's exciting, but its also so 'animal' its disgusting (aka. you would really fucking not appreciate if someone did that to you or someone you knew).
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 16 2010 20:48 GMT
#4
Why did you come and comment on his blog then?

Face palm.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
November 16 2010 20:49 GMT
#5
On November 17 2010 05:48 StarStruck wrote:
Why did you come and comment on his blog then?

Face palm.

same reason he has that opinion. ( he is ignorant)
Blondinbengt
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden578 Posts
November 16 2010 20:51 GMT
#6
On November 17 2010 05:28 bITt.mAN wrote:
OK I understand hype behind the confrontation of two top competitors (fuck yeah I'd be excited for a Boxer/Yellow Bisu/JD JD/Flash), but I still don't get the appeal of watching two guys try to beat the shit out of each other, esp. when they're already down.

Yes it's exciting, but its also so 'animal' its disgusting (aka. you would really fucking not appreciate if someone did that to you or someone you knew).


Well, first of all, it's not like the people in the ring (or octagon) don't know what they're doing there, it's not like they get in there and go ''wtf??!! some guy is trying to kick my ass??!!''. It's a bit like saying sex is bad because sometimes people get raped, it's a matter of context.

The 'when they're already down'-argument is a bit of a fallacy, because in MMA you have something called the ''ground game'' which is essentially techniques based on fighting while on your back or being on top of someone on the ground, it's mostly a mix between wrestling, judo and brazilian jiu-jitsu. What this means is that many fights are actually won by the guy being on his back through submissions and sometimes even striking such as elbows, it's not necessarily a bad position to be in.

MMA often look more brutal compared to other contact sports such as boxing, but looking at the actual damage taken by fighters in a fight, boxing is often a lot worse (see the recent Pacquiao vs Margarito fight). Ultimately it comes down to subjective ideas though, if you are just in general against violence you will probably never be a MMA-fan, but if you actually take the time to learn a bit about the techniques and the skill behind what's going on you might see it in a different way.
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
November 16 2010 21:06 GMT
#7
these punches look soooooo faked rofl..
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
November 16 2010 21:21 GMT
#8
I believe that there is an art to combat. We have the choice whether we want to be a fighter or not, and we make that choice throughout our lives.
For the people who just fight to be dirtbags, jumping people and beating them unconscious because they can't control their emotions in a civilized manner, they bring a terrible name to the skilled aspect of fighting. If any of those random bastards were to step into the ring with someone they would be destroyed.
There are people who love fighting, like myself. I've hit 2 people in my life without equipment on, and they both deserved it. I've never started a fight over something petty, nor have I attacked a random person. If someone asked me to fight them in the ring, you're god damn right I'd do it. It would be more fun and excitement then my body could handle. If others who like to fight take it in a professional manner then fighting isn't so scary. Fighting is scary when you don't want to fight.

I can't wait for this fight. It's ACTUALLY the biggest fight in HW history. This fight is huge, and I've been waiting for it to happen for 2 years or so. I'll be ordering this one baby. :D
Wishing you well.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 16 2010 21:37 GMT
#9
On November 17 2010 05:48 StarStruck wrote:
Why did you come and comment on his blog then?

Face palm.

He figures that the guy who is hyped for this event gets the appeal and will talk about it.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
November 16 2010 21:40 GMT
#10
On November 17 2010 05:28 bITt.mAN wrote:
OK I understand hype behind the confrontation of two top competitors (fuck yeah I'd be excited for a Boxer/Yellow Bisu/JD JD/Flash), but I still don't get the appeal of watching two guys try to beat the shit out of each other, esp. when they're already down.

Yes it's exciting, but its also so 'animal' its disgusting (aka. you would really fucking not appreciate if someone did that to you or someone you knew).


I'm sure there is some portion of the population that is only interested in seeing people get fucked up. However, it is terribly ignorant for you to believe that this is the only reason people watch MMA.

You only think it is animal because you do not understand what is going on. It's like when a complete newbie watches a starcraft game. To them it looks like a senseless game where you throw units at each other endlessly. They do not know what micro or macro is. They have no concept of the underlying strategy of the game. In the exact same way, you are also missing the underlying strategy and skill of MMA.

Mixed martial arts is a very complex sport. There is an immense skill aspect to it, which makes it very fascinating to watch from a technical point of view. Jiu Jitsu is often called physical chess because it is a game of strategy.

Obviously, there is a physical damage component to it. However, this is true with many sports. These people are athletes, and they accept the risks that are associated with their sports. Also, the danger is very largely mitigated by the rules of the sport.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
November 16 2010 21:52 GMT
#11
Excellent trailer. I am really pumped for this fight as well. I think it is going to be a war. I believe Velasquez should be able to hold onto his title, but he will have a real challenge doing so.
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
November 16 2010 22:08 GMT
#12
I love JDS, but his last fight with Nelson made me wary about his cardio. The biggest x-factor is if he can stuff Cain's takedown, and just how good his bjj is. I know he trains it under the Nog brothers, but it has never been on display so its a big question mark.

For those reason, I give the edge to Cain.
nemahsys
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada457 Posts
November 16 2010 22:37 GMT
#13
On November 17 2010 05:28 bITt.mAN wrote:
OK I understand hype behind the confrontation of two top competitors (fuck yeah I'd be excited for a Boxer/Yellow Bisu/JD JD/Flash), but I still don't get the appeal of watching two guys try to beat the shit out of each other, esp. when they're already down.

Yes it's exciting, but its also so 'animal' its disgusting (aka. you would really fucking not appreciate if someone did that to you or someone you knew).



its clear you dont enjoy or respect the sport or its competitors. why are you posting in this thread at all?
DJ Wheat, if you read this, plz get Lo3 back on itunes stat!
xBTx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada542 Posts
November 16 2010 22:38 GMT
#14
I really don't see why there's so much hype. Cain's going to get the Jon Fitch/Josh Koscheck patented AKA gameplan and outwrestle the superior striker (fitch vs alves, koscheck vs daley).

I believe lesnar-velasquez was the big fight. This will be Cain's first title defense via UD or late TKO
stuffing feathers up your butt doesnt make you a chicken
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
November 16 2010 22:49 GMT
#15
On November 17 2010 07:38 xBTx wrote:
I really don't see why there's so much hype. Cain's going to get the Jon Fitch/Josh Koscheck patented AKA gameplan and outwrestle the superior striker (fitch vs alves, koscheck vs daley).

I believe lesnar-velasquez was the big fight. This will be Cain's first title defense via UD or late TKO


No way! JDS is miles away from Lesnar in terms of everything that is nothing taking down.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 22:53:53
November 16 2010 22:53 GMT
#16
Edit: its rare occurrence but I double posted =o
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 22:56:31
November 16 2010 22:55 GMT
#17
On November 17 2010 05:28 bITt.mAN wrote:
OK I understand hype behind the confrontation of two top competitors (fuck yeah I'd be excited for a Boxer/Yellow Bisu/JD JD/Flash), but I still don't get the appeal of watching two guys try to beat the shit out of each other, esp. when they're already down.

Yes it's exciting, but its also so 'animal' its disgusting (aka. you would really fucking not appreciate if someone did that to you or someone you knew).


Look, I dont know what to tell you, I felt EXACLY like you like 1 year ago.

My friends compete in MMA and always loved the scene, eventually they got jobs and started buying all PPVs, I started watching, talking about it, following some brazilian fighters, learning MMA myself, and its inevitable to start liking it.

Once you get over the hemophobia the sport causes, you will be able to see it just like a SC match, a competition between the skill of 2 great athlethes.

here watch this video of Lyoto.

" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
KaiserReinhard
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States554 Posts
November 16 2010 22:57 GMT
#18
On November 17 2010 05:28 bITt.mAN wrote:
OK I understand hype behind the confrontation of two top competitors (fuck yeah I'd be excited for a Boxer/Yellow Bisu/JD JD/Flash), but I still don't get the appeal of watching two guys try to beat the shit out of each other, esp. when they're already down.

Yes it's exciting, but its also so 'animal' its disgusting (aka. you would really fucking not appreciate if someone did that to you or someone you knew).


The appeal is that it's not two big dumb brutes swinging at one another, it's that they're top class martial artists + athletes who train really hard. If you're interested in martial arts and/or still have that primal spark that exists in males that just makes you want to fight/hunt/generally be angry then you get a kick out of watching MMA. If you're not really a fighting guy it wouldn't appeal to you and you may not understand the appeal. Simple as that.
twitch.tv/imkirok
xBTx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada542 Posts
November 16 2010 23:01 GMT
#19
On November 17 2010 07:49 D10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2010 07:38 xBTx wrote:
I really don't see why there's so much hype. Cain's going to get the Jon Fitch/Josh Koscheck patented AKA gameplan and outwrestle the superior striker (fitch vs alves, koscheck vs daley).

I believe lesnar-velasquez was the big fight. This will be Cain's first title defense via UD or late TKO


No way! JDS is miles away from Lesnar in terms of everything that is nothing taking down.


I love JDS but for all we know he sprawls like James Toney.
stuffing feathers up your butt doesnt make you a chicken
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
November 16 2010 23:05 GMT
#20
Well people like this conservative approach of "hes only as good as what hes shown" then proceed to claim the reason he hasant shown these skills is because he hasant fought a top wrestler.

I really dont think Cain will have an overwhelming advantage over JDS, its an even fight and anyone can win
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
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