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NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
November 12 2010 04:24 GMT
#1
I was on my way to class and got attacked and robbed in a residential area near my school.
A old red toyota with 4 black males drove up to me and they came out and said "empty your pockets man". I told them "You don't want to do this" then i tried to run. One of them caught me and started punching my liver and my back while the others were tugging/ripping my shirt and grabbing for my pockets. I resisted and tried fought back but that didn't really help. I struggled towards an open street and thankfully a car passed by but ironically didn't hesitate nor even jerk slightly to help, it just drove by while i was struggling with 4 black males and reaching out to them for help(bystander effect :[).

My wallet had about $400 in paychecks because i received them yesterday and a $300 mp3 player(cowon j3) in my hand and thankfully they didn't succeed in stealing those. What they did steal was my Klipsch Image S4 earphones but they ripped it in the process of grabbing it from me. One of them dropped his phone and when i reached for it, one of the other guys kicked my face in before running to their car and driving off.

Called 911 right after and the police came and interviewed me asking me for a clear description. I could barely remember what they looked like as it all happened too fast. I overheard one of them saying that if they drove to a certain direction there would be no way of catching them..

Have any of you guys been mugged? I'm still shaken up from the entire experience and i honestly think i would have died or been brutally beat if that single car did not pass by. I'm dissapointed that i fought back because i still don't know if any of them wielded a weapon and if that car wasn't there i would certainly been in big trouble if i continued to resist/fight back.

****
crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
November 12 2010 04:27 GMT
#2
My 2s partner was mugged about two years ago by 4 black kids as well. I don't think any were over the age of 18. He was about to step out of his car and they snatched the door open and held a gun to his head. They took everything of value from his house, but got caught about 15 min after they left. They only thing they didnt recover was his wallet. He is now a proud gun enthusiast, and I feel sorry for the next group of thugs that try to rob him, because won't be as lucky I'm afraid.
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Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
November 12 2010 04:28 GMT
#3
sorry to hear it, you should probably invest in pepper spray
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lutarez
Profile Joined November 2010
United States65 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 04:32:01
November 12 2010 04:31 GMT
#4
What city was this?

My university campus is in the downtown core and every other day the campus police chief sends out an email recapping some event (robbery, break-in, etc.) that happened on campus...
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 12 2010 04:32 GMT
#5
On November 12 2010 13:28 Terrakin wrote:
sorry to hear it, you should probably invest in pepper spray


Or what the guy above said, invest in a gun >__<
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NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 04:35:22
November 12 2010 04:35 GMT
#6
Almost all 4 of the people were younger than me. I'm 22 and i'm pretty sure 3 of them were around 17-20 while one looked 20-25.
This was in the city of Torrance/Gardena. About 20 minutes away from compton. Theres been plenty rapings and muggings around here but i never thought it would happen to me.
Dont Panic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States194 Posts
November 12 2010 04:35 GMT
#7
Well one it would be stupid to fight back and i don't see how i gun will help you in either situation. Your life is infinitely more important than what you had in your pockets so let it go. Don't cry imba about life just take this as a lesson so next time you wont travel in the wrong area alone.
I am order. I am logic. I know exactly who I am.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
November 12 2010 04:37 GMT
#8
run to the nearest door and slam the door with your fist while shouting "Danny open up the door and bring your shotgun."
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
November 12 2010 04:37 GMT
#9
Hi Green Tea -_-

Fuck man you should've booked it asap to a nearby house or something. Like you said, never fight back especially if it's 1v4 and they coulda been armed too. You too crazy~

Did they just get away with your IEMs?

It's not too bad since you still got your J3 + money... with the 4 bills you can get SE535s/IE8s/X10s/ or pretty much any top tier universal as a replacement.

How did you even hear them though with your earphones on? -_-
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 04:42:59
November 12 2010 04:39 GMT
#10
On November 12 2010 13:35 Dont Panic wrote:
Well one it would be stupid to fight back and i don't see how i gun will help you in either situation. Your life is infinitely more important than what you had in your pockets so let it go. Don't cry imba about life just take this as a lesson so next time you wont travel in the wrong area alone.


I'm not crying about it or anything. I'm still shaken up because like you stated i knew it was stupid of me to fight back considering if they had weapons(which i still don't know if they did) and the fight continued on i would be seriously hurt. The area i was in was NOT dark or narrow. It was a very open residential community so i honestly didn't expect a mugging of any sort. I've been parking at this location for almost 3 years with no trouble.

I'm just asking to see if anyone else experienced something similar.

On November 12 2010 13:37 ThePurist wrote:
Hi Green Tea -_-

Fuck man you should've booked it asap to a nearby house or something. Like you said, never fight back especially if it's 1v4 and they coulda been armed too. You too crazy~

Did they just get away with your IEMs?

It's not too bad since you still got your J3 + money... with the 4 bills you can get SE535s/IE8s/X10s/ or pretty much any top tier universal as a replacement.

How did you even hear them though with your earphones on? -_-


I did attempt to run but one of them caught me and wrestled me down while the others attacked me. They drove up next to me glaring at me and i thought they were asking for directions so i took off my earphones and the first thing they said was "empty your pockets man, you know what were talking about". Everytime i kept saying "Don't do this, don't do this" and they kept saying "shut the fuck up and give us your stuff".

They grabbed my iems so hard that one of the buds completely ripped off. I wasn't intending on spending any of the money in my wallet as its meant for living expenses and without it i'd be pretty much royally screwed.

I'm a little dissapointed and frustrated that the car didn't even jerk slightly when i saw both the driver and passenger's face looking at me getting jumped by 4 black guys.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
November 12 2010 04:39 GMT
#11
Sorry to hear that you got mugged, that sounds quite scary. To protect yourself, you don't really need a gun, they're quite expensive and it's bad to have one on you. What you can do is keep needles hidden in various parts of your clothing (ie, embedded in your belt loop, sticking in your wallet, etc), and then learn how to fight using needles. A surprise stab can be quite effective. You can nullify certain muscles by puncturing nerves, or you can be less merciful and puncture an artery.
Dont Panic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States194 Posts
November 12 2010 04:41 GMT
#12
On November 12 2010 13:39 NokCha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 13:35 Dont Panic wrote:
Well one it would be stupid to fight back and i don't see how i gun will help you in either situation. Your life is infinitely more important than what you had in your pockets so let it go. Don't cry imba about life just take this as a lesson so next time you wont travel in the wrong area alone.


I'm not crying about it or anything. I'm still shaken up because like you stated i knew it was stupid of me to fight back considering if they had weapons(which i still don't know if they did) and the fight continued on i would be seriously hurt. The area i was in was NOT dark or narrow. It was a very open residential community so i honestly didn't expect a mugging of any sort. I've been parking at this location for almost 3 years with no trouble.

I'm just asking to see if anyone else experienced something similar.

I'm just trying to say that the best thing to do is acknowledge it, learn from it, then put it out of your mind because if you continue to think about it, it will only get worse. Not saying its easy to do but this threads seems counter-productive.
I am order. I am logic. I know exactly who I am.
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
November 12 2010 04:45 GMT
#13
On November 12 2010 13:39 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sorry to hear that you got mugged, that sounds quite scary. To protect yourself, you don't really need a gun, they're quite expensive and it's bad to have one on you. What you can do is keep needles hidden in various parts of your clothing (ie, embedded in your belt loop, sticking in your wallet, etc), and then learn how to fight using needles. A surprise stab can be quite effective. You can nullify certain muscles by puncturing nerves, or you can be less merciful and puncture an artery.


I don't wanna offend anybody but were you being serious?
I mean I can see it happening in a Jet Lee movie or somebody with some knowledge of acupuncture, but I would still get my ass kicked even if I got some good stabs in.

IMHO I'd just fucking run to a nearby house or jump through fences or something. If I felt I needed to arm myself, maybe a standard switchblade? But still if it's a 1v4... no chance of winning the fight -_-
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
November 12 2010 04:45 GMT
#14
On November 12 2010 13:41 Dont Panic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 13:39 NokCha wrote:
On November 12 2010 13:35 Dont Panic wrote:
Well one it would be stupid to fight back and i don't see how i gun will help you in either situation. Your life is infinitely more important than what you had in your pockets so let it go. Don't cry imba about life just take this as a lesson so next time you wont travel in the wrong area alone.


I'm not crying about it or anything. I'm still shaken up because like you stated i knew it was stupid of me to fight back considering if they had weapons(which i still don't know if they did) and the fight continued on i would be seriously hurt. The area i was in was NOT dark or narrow. It was a very open residential community so i honestly didn't expect a mugging of any sort. I've been parking at this location for almost 3 years with no trouble.

I'm just asking to see if anyone else experienced something similar.

I'm just trying to say that the best thing to do is acknowledge it, learn from it, then put it out of your mind because if you continue to think about it, it will only get worse. Not saying its easy to do but this threads seems counter-productive.


My apologies i just wanted to get this out rather than bottle it up. I'm just looking to relate.
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
November 12 2010 04:47 GMT
#15
On November 12 2010 13:39 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sorry to hear that you got mugged, that sounds quite scary. To protect yourself, you don't really need a gun, they're quite expensive and it's bad to have one on you. What you can do is keep needles hidden in various parts of your clothing (ie, embedded in your belt loop, sticking in your wallet, etc), and then learn how to fight using needles. A surprise stab can be quite effective. You can nullify certain muscles by puncturing nerves, or you can be less merciful and puncture an artery.

Dude, everyone is not as ninja as you are
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 12 2010 04:47 GMT
#16
You shouldn't of fought back, especially since they were in a Car They could've been armed man, you took a huge risk. Anyways I applaud to your courage, I would've dropped down and just given everything I had. Things like these just happen I guess. I've never been mugged in my life so I really can't give you any advice (sorry )

But there is one TL Staff member who beat the shit out of the people who tried to mug him. Hopefully he will read this thread and help you out what to do on those situations and etc (not saying you should go jackie chan whenever some wants your stuff)
dats racist
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
November 12 2010 04:49 GMT
#17
On November 12 2010 13:39 NokCha wrote:

I'm a little dissapointed and frustrated that the car didn't even jerk slightly when i saw both the driver and passenger's face looking at me getting jumped by 4 black guys.


Damn that sucks I would feel the same if a car didn't stop to help. Were they like women/elderly or just like two guys?

At the very least they coulda stopped and knocked on a person's door for help.

Sucks about your IEMs ... but try to stay positive be thankful you're still okay + J3 + money for living expenses. ^^;
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 04:53:17
November 12 2010 04:51 GMT
#18
On November 12 2010 13:47 MrHoon wrote:
You shouldn't of fought back, especially since they were in a Car They could've been armed man, you took a huge risk. Anyways I applaud to your courage, I would've dropped down and just given everything I had. Things like these just happen I guess. I've never been mugged in my life so I really can't give you any advice (sorry )

But there is one TL Staff member who beat the shit out of the people who tried to mug him. Hopefully he will read this thread and help you out what to do on those situations and etc (not saying you should go jackie chan whenever some wants your stuff)


I still don't know what went over my mind. I completely admit what i did was absolutely retarded but when they were heading towards me i was terrified as hell and when i tried to run my legs felt like jello and i only got about 20 feet near an open road. The only thing i could think about was hoping to struggle long enough until someone saw and scared them off. I guess its too hard to think straight when under pressure.

On November 12 2010 13:49 ThePurist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 13:39 NokCha wrote:

I'm a little dissapointed and frustrated that the car didn't even jerk slightly when i saw both the driver and passenger's face looking at me getting jumped by 4 black guys.


Damn that sucks I would feel the same if a car didn't stop to help. Were they like women/elderly or just like two guys?

At the very least they coulda stopped and knocked on a person's door for help.

Sucks about your IEMs ... but try to stay positive be thankful you're still okay + J3 + money for living expenses. ^^;


Two Caucasian middle aged men. The sad part is they didn't call 911 either. When i asked the police officer if anyone else reported a mugging they said i was the only one.
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
November 12 2010 04:54 GMT
#19
I'd never live in a city simply because of the amount of trash human beings that exist there.


It would probably be a good idea to only park at your school and at home. Walking around alone is always a little risky.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
November 12 2010 04:55 GMT
#20
On November 12 2010 13:39 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sorry to hear that you got mugged, that sounds quite scary. To protect yourself, you don't really need a gun, they're quite expensive and it's bad to have one on you. What you can do is keep needles hidden in various parts of your clothing (ie, embedded in your belt loop, sticking in your wallet, etc), and then learn how to fight using needles. A surprise stab can be quite effective. You can nullify certain muscles by puncturing nerves, or you can be less merciful and puncture an artery.


...




Anyway, we all know fighting criminals 1v4 for your wallet is a retarded idea, no matter what weapon you are carrying.

If you want to feel safer in a good way I would seriously say learn some Parkour! There are a ton of great community sites where you can meet up with local groups in your area. I did, and its super fun, a ridiculously good workout, and makes me feel far safer in pretty much any circumstance.

Once you have a good wallrun and a few smooth vaults, good fucking luck to anyone trying to catch you.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
November 12 2010 04:56 GMT
#21
On November 12 2010 13:54 Romantic wrote:
I'd never live in a city simply because of the amount of trash human beings that exist there.


It would probably be a good idea to only park at your school and at home. Walking around alone is always a little risky.


I've been parking there to save up money as it was only 5 minutes away from school. But i've definately learned my lesson. I'm heading out to buy a parking permit. No point in trying to save a little money while risking my life.
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
November 12 2010 04:56 GMT
#22
Interesting...4 black males in Korea. I know that VERY FEW, black people live in Korea. Hmm, theres a company that makes masks that look real. I wonder if they could be wearing the mask.

I have never been robbed but these things do happen. There was little that you could have done in that situation. I commend you for your courage. If I was in that situation, I would have forked over my MP3 and try to reason them to keep my paycheck since it would be useless for them.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
November 12 2010 04:58 GMT
#23
On November 12 2010 13:56 aztrorisk wrote:
Interesting...4 black males in Korea. I know that VERY FEW, black people live in Korea. Hmm, theres a company that makes masks that look real. I wonder if they could be wearing the mask.

I have never been robbed but these things do happen. There was little that you could have done in that situation. I commend you for your courage. If I was in that situation, I would have forked over my MP3 and try to reason them to keep my paycheck since it would be useless for them.


I go to a community college in the LA area near compton.
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
November 12 2010 05:00 GMT
#24
On November 12 2010 13:54 Romantic wrote:
I'd never live in a city simply because of the amount of trash human beings that exist there.


It would probably be a good idea to only park at your school and at home. Walking around alone is always a little risky.


Thanks kinda too paranoid/pessimistic no?
Things unfortunately happen, but you still have jobs/school/things to do and there are always going to be people that have similar agendas as you. I live in like the center of Toronto and it's just a fact of life.

Btw NokCha forget my comment about the switchblade thing it's illegal -_-;
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 12 2010 05:01 GMT
#25
Fortunately you never ever get mugged in Korea (unless you're like 12, which is stupid because your wallet has like $3)
I guess that's the high point of being in Korea, you never get mugged
dats racist
Archaeo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States397 Posts
November 12 2010 05:02 GMT
#26
Same thing happened to my friend (who is disabled). Three hispanics jumped him, took his Ipod, and money, and gave him a black eye. Not much he could do. But, good thing you didn't get severely injured, those areas near Compton are pretty bad.
Yo my chingu!!!
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
November 12 2010 05:03 GMT
#27
On November 12 2010 14:00 ThePurist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 13:54 Romantic wrote:
I'd never live in a city simply because of the amount of trash human beings that exist there.


It would probably be a good idea to only park at your school and at home. Walking around alone is always a little risky.


Thanks kinda too paranoid/pessimistic no?
Things unfortunately happen, but you still have jobs/school/things to do and there are always going to be people that have similar agendas as you. I live in like the center of Toronto and it's just a fact of life.

Btw NokCha forget my comment about the switchblade thing it's illegal -_-;

I don't know. I live in a 50% suburban 50% rural farmland area.

I figure since he is walking to school he could probably eliminate that risk by parking at school.
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
November 12 2010 05:04 GMT
#28
On November 12 2010 14:01 MrHoon wrote:
Fortunately you never ever get mugged in Korea (unless you're like 12, which is stupid because your wallet has like $3)
I guess that's the high point of being in Korea, you never get mugged



중/고등학교 ~ still happens groups of stupid kids demand whatever cash they can get -_-;;
Trion
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada291 Posts
November 12 2010 05:04 GMT
#29
On November 12 2010 13:39 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sorry to hear that you got mugged, that sounds quite scary. To protect yourself, you don't really need a gun, they're quite expensive and it's bad to have one on you. What you can do is keep needles hidden in various parts of your clothing (ie, embedded in your belt loop, sticking in your wallet, etc), and then learn how to fight using needles. A surprise stab can be quite effective. You can nullify certain muscles by puncturing nerves, or you can be less merciful and puncture an artery.


A kubaton would probably be a better idea then having hidden needles on you.

I would recommend taking a simple self defense course and keeping kubaton on your key chain, or something. I've been doing martial arts for as long as I can remember and I can say you'd be surprised how much information and confidence you can get a simple 2 hour crash course in self defense.
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
November 12 2010 05:07 GMT
#30
WTFFFF this was in Torrance? You okay man?
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 05:08:30
November 12 2010 05:07 GMT
#31
On November 12 2010 14:02 Kororo wrote:
Same thing happened to my friend (who is disabled). Three hispanics jumped him, took his Ipod, and money, and gave him a black eye. Not much he could do. But, good thing you didn't get severely injured, those areas near Compton are pretty bad.


Man... that sounds horrible. The worst thing they did to me was try to choke me out and kick my face in. My college has had handfuls of rapings and muggings but i almost never hear about those cases being solved.

On November 12 2010 14:07 pinenamu wrote:
WTFFFF this was in Torrance? You okay man?


Yea i just got a few minor cuts on my hand but i feel fine other than that.
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
November 12 2010 05:07 GMT
#32
You did fine, man. I don't think you acted stupidly at all. You were in a dangerous situation, and you made a run for it. That's been keeping us and our ancestors alive since the Pleistocene.

And you survived without (it appears) serious injury. So that's a plus, too. I know the lost valuables and living expenses are a real problem, but look on the bright side: you just got jumped by four dudes and you're still in one piece enough to post about it on TL.

So yeah, man, don't judge yourself too harshly, and don't let something cruel like this embitter you against life or humanity. You were resilient enough to walk away from the mugging. Be resilient enough to pick yourself up, learn what lessons you think apply, and then brush that shit off.
If it were not so, I would have told you.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 12 2010 05:08 GMT
#33
On November 12 2010 14:04 ThePurist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 14:01 MrHoon wrote:
Fortunately you never ever get mugged in Korea (unless you're like 12, which is stupid because your wallet has like $3)
I guess that's the high point of being in Korea, you never get mugged



중/고등학교 ~ still happens groups of stupid kids demand whatever cash they can get -_-;;

That's too bad, especially the ones in HS considering they need to prepare for the test
dats racist
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
November 12 2010 05:10 GMT
#34
Could someone explain what "중/고등학교" is?
If it were not so, I would have told you.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 12 2010 05:11 GMT
#35
On November 12 2010 14:10 HULKAMANIA wrote:
Could someone explain what "중/고등학교" is?

중 = middle
고 = high

Middleschool/Highschool
dats racist
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
November 12 2010 05:12 GMT
#36
Yep, had a similar experience---in my case I didn't get to decide whether or not I should fight back, I just got tackled from behind and another guy came up and punched me in the face... I woke up on the ground. Fortunately I only had 7 dollars in my wallet.

My thoughts: It's probably pretty normal to be shaken up. You'll get over it eventually, so don't feel bad if it takes some time. And don't worry too much about whether you made the right decisions at the time. Your experience is going to screw with your head enough, you don't need to add to it.
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
November 12 2010 05:13 GMT
#37
That's a relief dude, I would never imagine something happening like that where we live. But then again some dude came into our house when we accidentally had the garage opened and stole my mom's purse D: Stay safe and definitely get a parking permit. Not worth getting jumped..
lvatural
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States347 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 05:14:27
November 12 2010 05:13 GMT
#38
On November 12 2010 14:04 Trion wrote:
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On November 12 2010 13:39 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sorry to hear that you got mugged, that sounds quite scary. To protect yourself, you don't really need a gun, they're quite expensive and it's bad to have one on you. What you can do is keep needles hidden in various parts of your clothing (ie, embedded in your belt loop, sticking in your wallet, etc), and then learn how to fight using needles. A surprise stab can be quite effective. You can nullify certain muscles by puncturing nerves, or you can be less merciful and puncture an artery.


A kubaton would probably be a better idea then having hidden needles on you.

I would recommend taking a simple self defense course and keeping kubaton on your key chain, or something. I've been doing martial arts for as long as I can remember and I can say you'd be surprised how much information and confidence you can get a simple 2 hour crash course in self defense.


Self-defense classes won't do shit against 4 muggers. You're just going to get yourself killed while trying to resist. I've got a decade of experience, and I wouldn't even imagine trying to resist four guys since at least one of 'em could be armed.

I used to have to walk through a sketchy neighborhood, so I took a couple of preemptive measures that are a bit more passive. I never carried more than 40bucks on me, and I also bought a gray beanie and a used jacket at Goodwill (going for the "not worth mugging" image) to wear when walking through the area. I also never wore my headphones during that walk. Needless to say that during the entire year, I didn't get mugged once.

Edit: Oh yeah. It's great that you're okay!
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silentreality
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)222 Posts
November 12 2010 05:13 GMT
#39
On November 12 2010 14:08 MrHoon wrote:
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On November 12 2010 14:04 ThePurist wrote:
On November 12 2010 14:01 MrHoon wrote:
Fortunately you never ever get mugged in Korea (unless you're like 12, which is stupid because your wallet has like $3)
I guess that's the high point of being in Korea, you never get mugged



중/고등학교 ~ still happens groups of stupid kids demand whatever cash they can get -_-;;

That's too bad, especially the ones in HS considering they need to prepare for the test


Never mugged. I did have a bunch of highschool girls ask me if I could buy them a pack of cigarettes -_-;;;;
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
November 12 2010 05:13 GMT
#40
I dont care if the dollar reaches parity. Im not gonna consider going to America after crap like this.
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 05:18:14
November 12 2010 05:17 GMT
#41
On November 12 2010 14:13 T0fuuu wrote:
I dont care if the dollar reaches parity. Im not gonna consider going to America after crap like this.

Do people not get mugged in your country?
If it were not so, I would have told you.
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1437 Posts
November 12 2010 05:18 GMT
#42
^

This, kubaton + switchblade or karambit.


It's not BAD to have a gun on you. It's bad to have one on you and not know how to properly use it. IE. Have not taken a weapon retention class, or shoot quals, etc. Because if you don't and you actually shoot somebody, you're gonna have to fight it out in court.
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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
November 12 2010 05:18 GMT
#43
On November 12 2010 14:13 T0fuuu wrote:
I dont care if the dollar reaches parity. Im not gonna consider going to America after crap like this.


Hm I think other countries have it worse haha

But yeah sorry for the incident :<

I hope I don't ever get robbed...
Better not wander around Baltimore ehehe (not that I do)
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 12 2010 05:19 GMT
#44
Well Compton is notorious of crime, shouldnt be surprised.

In my freshmen years in high school Ive seen a student get mugged in front of my face, they didnt rob me since I looked like a nerdy Chinese kid with nothing. Though later I was confronted during my senior years, it was a Hispanic kid that asked me for "a dollar" on the street when I was going home... we glared at each other(I said why or something like I dont have anything, the kid looked like a wannabe hipster/gangster) but after his friend caught up with him and pulled him away, we parted. That was about it, nothing serious. I think it had to do with the fact that he picked the worst place to rob someone since it was 2 blocks away from a relatively busy intersection and in board daylight. I live in NYC.

Since I never had such a extreme experience yet, so my mentality of it is unclear. Most of us think we could go all Jet Li on their asses, maybe but it will only delay the process.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
November 12 2010 05:20 GMT
#45
u fought well!!!
Even if you lost, big balls man! big fuckin balls!@
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 12 2010 05:22 GMT
#46
On November 12 2010 14:18 dogabutila wrote:
^

This, kubaton + switchblade or karambit.


It's not BAD to have a gun on you. It's bad to have one on you and not know how to properly use it. IE. Have not taken a weapon retention class, or shoot quals, etc. Because if you don't and you actually shoot somebody, you're gonna have to fight it out in court.


In that situation its only self-defense, I mean if you do carry one because concealed weapons are pretty popular here and its allowed... well in most states(CCW). You would be responsible with it.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 05:26:27
November 12 2010 05:22 GMT
#47
I don't think any of them were strong. The one choking me out wasn't properly doing it to the point where i could still breathe but with slight uncomfort. The other 3 were punching me but my body doesn't hurt at all even the kick to my face doesn't sting all that much(maybe due to shock, i think i might feel it in the morning). Now that i think about it i think some of them were doing this for the first time. It was extremely messy overall...which i'm glad it was.
I'm pretty sure self defense is not the best solution to this kind of situation. I've seen it in movies but after encountering the actual thing its so much more different. The pressure of 4 males surrounding you is just way too overwhelming.

I've taken martial arts classes in the past but nothing they taught there prepared me to fight against 4 males regardless of their build/age/race. If i did fight against them i think i would've been brutally beaten to death or near that point. A part of me thinks if i just let them have my wallet and they tried to use my credit card then they could track them down and catch them..

Thank you all for your support. I do feel alot better now. I tried calling some of my best friends but they weren't picking up so i figured i'd head towards TL for some support
Trion
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 05:30:25
November 12 2010 05:24 GMT
#48
On November 12 2010 14:13 lvatural wrote:
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On November 12 2010 14:04 Trion wrote:
On November 12 2010 13:39 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sorry to hear that you got mugged, that sounds quite scary. To protect yourself, you don't really need a gun, they're quite expensive and it's bad to have one on you. What you can do is keep needles hidden in various parts of your clothing (ie, embedded in your belt loop, sticking in your wallet, etc), and then learn how to fight using needles. A surprise stab can be quite effective. You can nullify certain muscles by puncturing nerves, or you can be less merciful and puncture an artery.


A kubaton would probably be a better idea then having hidden needles on you.

I would recommend taking a simple self defense course and keeping kubaton on your key chain, or something. I've been doing martial arts for as long as I can remember and I can say you'd be surprised how much information and confidence you can get a simple 2 hour crash course in self defense.


Self-defense classes won't do shit against 4 muggers. You're just going to get yourself killed while trying to resist. I've got a decade of experience, and I wouldn't even imagine trying to resist four guys since at least one of 'em could be armed.



Sorry if my post was a little miss-leading. I did not mean it would be a good idea to fight back in that situation, just meant it may be wise to have some sort of self defense knowledge. Also, most self defense courses focus a lot on making good decisions in stressful situations, such as the one the OP descried. It's not just fighting.

Great to hear your ok NokCha .
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 12 2010 05:26 GMT
#49
On November 12 2010 13:39 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sorry to hear that you got mugged, that sounds quite scary. To protect yourself, you don't really need a gun, they're quite expensive and it's bad to have one on you. What you can do is keep needles hidden in various parts of your clothing (ie, embedded in your belt loop, sticking in your wallet, etc), and then learn how to fight using needles. A surprise stab can be quite effective. You can nullify certain muscles by puncturing nerves, or you can be less merciful and puncture an artery.


dude, have u really gotten this good at trolling?

like ive seen u trolling a lot but damn
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
November 12 2010 05:26 GMT
#50
I seriously doubt you actually fought back against 4 guys in a car...

If you did, don't do it again.
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SpicyCrab
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 05:30:37
November 12 2010 05:27 GMT
#51
I commend you for your courage. Well done.

Dangerous, but I would just cowered and gotten robbed.

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NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
November 12 2010 05:28 GMT
#52
On November 12 2010 14:26 Piy wrote:
I seriously doubt you actually fought back against 4 guys in a car...

If you did, don't do it again.


I didn't necessarily fight back full on. I tried to fight back by pushing them back and elbowing kicking them away out of self defense and fear. I had no intention of hurting them. All i wanted to do was run away safely. But you are right. I've learned my lesson. No matter what i'm holding, nothing is worth risking my life over.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 05:36:33
November 12 2010 05:29 GMT
#53
I actually got mugged a few years ago. Me + 3 other friends were walking through an empty mall parking lot on the way to the theatre when these two guys jumped us. It was a pretty dark/deserted area at 9 PM, so not like anyone would've seen it (Fairview mall in Toronto). One black guy, other was Filipino. We def. would've resisted but the black guy said he had a gun on him, so it wasn't worth the risk even if he was lying, you can never be sure. They made us empty our wallets, so all they got was a bunch of cash and subway passes which they then used to get away as they ran towards the subway station. Was kinda scary at the time, but it wasn't that bad and none of us got hurt.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
November 12 2010 05:31 GMT
#54
To everyone suggesting getting a gun, that is a terrible idea. First of all, he's going to school and guns are definitely not allowed on campus. Second of all, he's not going to kill four guys for trying to mug him. If you end up using a gun as a scare tactic, there's a chance they see your bluff and have a gun of their own and shoot you. If you actually just shoot them, killing someone can be a lot more troubling than just getting mugged. Honestly, you should just empty your pockets and run. Your life is infinitely more valuable than a couple of your belongings. Don't do any self-defense nonsense either. Best-case scenario you end up saving a couple hundred bucks but you had to spend money on self-defense classes anyways. Worst-case scenario the four guys stomp you into the ground and leave you for dead. You don't have to be an expert on game theory to see which outcome is the best for both parties.

I really wish you the best of luck. Getting mugged is a terrible experience and I hope you feel better.
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
November 12 2010 05:33 GMT
#55
So when they told you to give them your shit they were out of the car? If they were in the car when they said it I would've ran.

i be that pretty motherfucker
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
November 12 2010 05:35 GMT
#56
On November 12 2010 14:33 UrASofty wrote:
So when they told you to give them your shit they were out of the car? If they were in the car when they said it I would've ran.



Yes first one of them approached me and told me to empty my pockets then the other 3 joined in when they realized i wasn't going to give in. Their car was still parked and running about 10 feet away
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 12 2010 05:41 GMT
#57
On November 12 2010 13:35 NokCha wrote:
Almost all 4 of the people were younger than me. I'm 22 and i'm pretty sure 3 of them were around 17-20 while one looked 20-25.
This was in the city of Torrance/Gardena. About 20 minutes away from compton. Theres been plenty rapings and muggings around here but i never thought it would happen to me.

lol, that's not a good area at all. You should definitely get something like pepper spray.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 12 2010 05:49 GMT
#58
James sup it's ON_FIER

That sucks man, I wouldn't worry about it. It makes me angry to think about all the times people have beaten me up and stolen things from me but then I think about the times I beat people's asses when they talked shit and I kinda think it's better that you didn't actually hurt or kill them. Glad to hear you're okay, don't let them get to you.
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aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
November 12 2010 05:51 GMT
#59
I go to a community college in the LA area near compton.


why does it say South Korea in your location?

BTW, I live near that area. Well I live in the OC!!!! Yea, alot of stuff happens in the US. My sis got her bike robbed. When the economy goes down, crime rates goes up.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 05:53:32
November 12 2010 05:52 GMT
#60
On November 12 2010 14:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
James sup it's ON_FIER

That sucks man, I wouldn't worry about it. It makes me angry to think about all the times people have beaten me up and stolen things from me but then I think about the times I beat people's asses when they talked shit and I kinda think it's better that you didn't actually hurt or kill them. Glad to hear you're okay, don't let them get to you.


Thank you for the support man i'm still a little shaken up by it and i gotta admit i think i've become a little paranoid about driving out in the dark alone.

On November 12 2010 14:51 aztrorisk wrote:
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I go to a community college in the LA area near compton.


why does it say South Korea in your location?

BTW, I live near that area. Well I live in the OC!!!! Yea, alot of stuff happens in the US. My sis got her bike robbed. When the economy goes down, crime rates goes up.


Ah i put it as S.Korea when i first registered because i was born there not because i lived there. Sorry for the confusion?
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
November 12 2010 05:52 GMT
#61
Interesting story. I would never try to be a hero in these cases. Give them what they want and leave. I couldn't care less what others think, fighting back when there are 4(!) guys is always the wrong decision. Even when it's just one guy, he might have a weapon and you still have to be careful. 4 guys though...you have no chance.

Sometimes stuff like this happens but, there's not much you can do unless you want to move to a safer city. Just give them what they want and don't walk around with $700 in your pockets lol.
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
November 12 2010 05:53 GMT
#62
Im sorry to hear this James I frequently see you posting on TL and it makes me happy to get to talk to you again, but this is really sad. I feel really bad you having to go through this. I wish I coulda had your back bro, at least it couldve been a lot worse O_O


James sup it's ON_FIER


were you NrG.Kami or something? Oo
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radialis
Profile Joined November 2010
726 Posts
November 12 2010 05:55 GMT
#63
what's with the amount of agro people here? OP i understand that it was sort of the heat of the moment but I'm more of referring to the people suggesting self defence and a gun. that's downright retarded. if you ever get mugged the best thing to do is just give em your shit and let them run off (later reporting it).

also, you're not really in "shock". shock is when your blood pressure drops rapidly and your tissues can't be perfused. at most this is an acute stress event. but yeah, i don't think it's fair to say what you did was stupid, especially in the circumstances. it's always easier to say that you'd act some way rather than actually do it.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 12 2010 06:02 GMT
#64
I live about 10 minutes from compton as well
Tips:
Don't walk alone if possible.
Keep your hands in your pockets.
Carry a weapon, even a pocket knife is enough most times.
Walk fast and hard.
Don't ever stop for anyone, just walk harder.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 12 2010 06:04 GMT
#65
btw, i assume you're asian. you shouldn't be walking around if you're asian.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 06:11:53
November 12 2010 06:06 GMT
#66
On November 12 2010 15:04 CharlieMurphy wrote:
btw, i assume you're asian. you shouldn't be walking around if you're asian.


Yup korean. i think one of the reasons why they chose me was because i was wearing a nice dress shirt. I go to class right after my work. Good tips though some of them i didn't even think of.I live in Torrance which is completely opposite of ghetto.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 12 2010 06:07 GMT
#67
On November 12 2010 15:06 NokCha wrote:
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On November 12 2010 15:04 CharlieMurphy wrote:
btw, i assume you're asian. you shouldn't be walking around if you're asian.


Yup korean. i think one of the reasons why i chose me was because i was wearing a nice dress shirt. I go to class right after my work.


Yea exactly. You were racially profiled
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3323 Posts
November 12 2010 06:08 GMT
#68
I once had someone make me go to an ATM and take out 220 and give it to him. He pulled out a gun (or what looked like a real gun) while I was walking home on a Sunday night through the park after going to Macdonald's. It was only 6-7pm but it was in the Jane and Finch area. It was a black male too

I called the cops and they called me in 2 separate times to try and look at some pictures to see if I could ID the person but I never once saw a picture of the guy that took my money.

Walking alone especially after dark is not safe to do in some areas.
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NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 14:01:35
November 12 2010 06:09 GMT
#69
On November 12 2010 15:07 CharlieMurphy wrote:
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On November 12 2010 15:06 NokCha wrote:
On November 12 2010 15:04 CharlieMurphy wrote:
btw, i assume you're asian. you shouldn't be walking around if you're asian.


Yup korean. i think one of the reasons why they chose me was because i was wearing a nice dress shirt. I go to class right after my work.


Yea exactly. You were racially profiled


Hmm your probably or are right though. Sad thing is i think the school won't report this.
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
November 12 2010 06:10 GMT
#70
Good thing you fought back, its more likely they won't repeat. Invest in a gun most likely, and email your Senators if they are anti second amendment.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 06:12:08
November 12 2010 06:10 GMT
#71
That would be the same when you assume 4 black dudes in a car pull up to you asking for directions.

edit: Only fight back if you know you're die, get kidnapped or raped. Maybe theres a flaw in that but whatever.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
November 12 2010 06:13 GMT
#72
Have you considered carrying a firearm to protect yourself?
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 06:16:32
November 12 2010 06:15 GMT
#73
LOL Torrance/Gardena? These cities are ridiculously safe (okay maybe not so much Gardena) but since you're including both cities I'm assuming you're on the border of the two.

Still, there have been some strange stuff happening recently in Torrance.
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NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 06:17:27
November 12 2010 06:16 GMT
#74
On November 12 2010 15:13 Kennigit wrote:
Have you considered carrying a firearm to protect yourself?


The thoughts crossed my mind but i'm afraid its going to bring more trouble than prevent it. Its true it may save me in some cases but the area my college is in, is filled with rapists, gang members, and thiefs.

On November 12 2010 15:15 paper wrote:
LOL Torrance/Gardena? These cities are ridiculously safe (okay maybe not so much Gardena) but since you're including both cities I'm assuming you're on the border of the two.

Still, there have been some strange stuff happening recently in Torrance.


Yea i live pretty deep in Torrance where even thievery is unheard of so i never really expected to get mugged especially when its at the border of Torrance and Gardena.
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
November 12 2010 06:20 GMT
#75
Shit dude, that sucks. I live/work in the South bay and you hardly ever hear about any crime. Wouldn't exactly feel safe walking around Gardena at night though.
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
November 12 2010 06:23 GMT
#76
On November 12 2010 15:20 LxRogue wrote:
Shit dude, that sucks. I live/work in the South bay and you hardly ever hear about any crime. Wouldn't exactly feel safe walking around Gardena at night though.


I've lived in the South Bay almost my entire life too where crime is seriously almost nonexistent. Only happens like every couple of years or so. I knew Gardena was somewhat ghetto but i never expected it to be this bad considering i was mugged literally at the entrance of Gardena not even deep inside where it really is dangerous.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
November 12 2010 06:25 GMT
#77
A sidearm may run you upwards of $400, which isn't too much more expensive than your mp3 player. If you see yourself at risk of losing that much in carried assets in the future, a gun may be a good investment. And of course, your life is priceless.

Also I don't know what specifically you're wearing, but especially in winter there's no reason to go walking around flashing your tie and suit if you have a scruffy overcoat or parka to wear over it.

Best wishes. May you not face these troubles again.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 12 2010 06:25 GMT
#78
On November 12 2010 14:53 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
Im sorry to hear this James I frequently see you posting on TL and it makes me happy to get to talk to you again, but this is really sad. I feel really bad you having to go through this. I wish I coulda had your back bro, at least it couldve been a lot worse O_O

Show nested quote +

James sup it's ON_FIER


were you NrG.Kami or something? Oo

omg neverexpo hahaha yeah I think I was NrG.ON_FIER but I forget.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
November 12 2010 06:32 GMT
#79
This is so weird that 4 black kids mugged you, because 4 black kids tried to rob my friends house but he managed to scare them off. What is it and the number 4? Anyway I talked to him about it(he's a pretty big gun geek)and I mentioned about buying a gun, and he was like, "oh yeah I started looking at guns. The first thing that came to my mind is, "wow life is real huh?" I know, I know maybe having a weapon on you could be worse, but if you actually knew how to use it well, it could be such a life saver.

Anyway OP you've just reminded me that I'm definitely going to buy a gun when I turn of age and learn how to use it well, and maybe even think of getting a license to carry it with me.
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
November 12 2010 06:33 GMT
#80
Sorry you gut mugged, man. I'm glad things didn't end up going worse than they did.

On November 12 2010 13:28 Terrakin wrote:
sorry to hear it, you should probably invest in pepper spray

While this probably sounds like a good idea, it's not that simple. Different types of chemical sprays function differently in different environments, weather, and so on.

On November 12 2010 13:39 Chairman Ray wrote:
To protect yourself, you don't really need a gun, they're quite expensive and it's bad to have one on you.

How so? They're actually not that expensive, and it's merely your opinion that it's bad to have a gun on you for self defense.

On November 12 2010 13:55 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 13:39 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sorry to hear that you got mugged, that sounds quite scary. To protect yourself, you don't really need a gun, they're quite expensive and it's bad to have one on you. What you can do is keep needles hidden in various parts of your clothing (ie, embedded in your belt loop, sticking in your wallet, etc), and then learn how to fight using needles. A surprise stab can be quite effective. You can nullify certain muscles by puncturing nerves, or you can be less merciful and puncture an artery.


...




Anyway, we all know fighting criminals 1v4 for your wallet is a retarded idea, no matter what weapon you are carrying.

If you want to feel safer in a good way I would seriously say learn some Parkour! There are a ton of great community sites where you can meet up with local groups in your area. I did, and its super fun, a ridiculously good workout, and makes me feel far safer in pretty much any circumstance.

Once you have a good wallrun and a few smooth vaults, good fucking luck to anyone trying to catch you.
I have to agree that fighting 4v1 over the contents of your pockets is a bad idea. I try not to carry so much cash that if I have to hand my wallet over I won't feel too badly about it. I'd rather go home minus my wallet than to end up with a knife in my ribs, a hollowpoint in my gut, or just generally getting the shit kicked out of me because I decide to put my pride over surviving.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
November 12 2010 06:41 GMT
#81
so civilians can carry guns in the US? pardon my ignorance..
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 06:54:07
November 12 2010 06:50 GMT
#82
On November 12 2010 15:41 Licmyobelisk wrote:
so civilians can carry guns in the US? pardon my ignorance..


Yes, but you need a permit.

edit: It really depends on where you live, its a lot easier in the Mid-West while its almost impossible to get one in NYC if you're a regular everyday civilian and not a person of high status.

The standard would be a CCW(Concealed Carry) permit or something, you dont have to have a gun license. Im not 100% sure but its something along those lines.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 12 2010 06:59 GMT
#83
well in michigan if you dont have a permit for concealed weapon you will get arrested for carrying any kind of handgun on you.

on the other hand your allowed to walk around with shotguns and shit without any permits. so maybe invest in a 12 gauge and walk around with that.. it would probably never even need used. im not sure how many muggers will target people walking around with 12 gauges but it cant be many..
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
November 12 2010 07:00 GMT
#84
I've never been mugged but I got attacked while I was walking home like 3 years ago around 2am, luckily I was walking near a busy street so two people pulled over and the guys ran before they could hurt me too much.

Moments like that are pretty scary, but it is best not to dwell on them, you didn't lose anything you can't replace and they will get what's coming to them eventually.
Hi.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 12 2010 07:09 GMT
#85
also i would highly recommend against carrying needles (wtf) for defense. if you feel your comfortable with carrying a weapon around for protection your gonna want something that you can actually defend yourself with. stabbing someone with a needle is just gonna get you killed.
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 07:11:20
November 12 2010 07:10 GMT
#86
Thank you kurt(neverexpo) man its been a while since we've talked and we definately need to catch up.

I really don't know about carrying a gun to college. I think that just seems too extreme. There are alot of gangs near my college and carrying a gun or even using one could give me more trouble than i need.

I don't even know how to shoot a gun and it'd be pretty awkward if i were pulled over for a speeding ticket or something minor and they found a gun in my car or backpack especially if it was on campus. I think even carrying firearms on campus is illegal itself...
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1837 Posts
November 12 2010 07:30 GMT
#87
Honestly, that sounds really really scary. I live in a very safe place at the moment and am pretty fortunate. I do venture to the not-so-good side of town every day, since it is where the school I go to is located, but the campus itself is very, very safe.

Hope you recover well. Just learn some lessons from this and don't get caught in the same place to have the same thing happen to you again and all is well.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 12 2010 08:09 GMT
#88
Well that's too bad, fortunately you weren't seriously hurt.
Honestly, I'm not too familiar with USA areas, but when I read "compton" I was not surprised at all that you were mugged around there.
Carrying a weapon might be a solution, anyways from my point of view it seems definitely dangerous to walk in american cities without a weapon. About the legal/illegal thing... Does it really matter? afaik mugging people is illegal too and cops are basically incompetent / useless in these situations.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
November 12 2010 08:27 GMT
#89
On November 12 2010 13:54 Romantic wrote:
I'd never live in a city simply because of the amount of trash human beings that exist there.


This.

In fact, wife and I just moved waaaay out to the country for partially that reason. I'm far more likely to hit a deer than get mugged now.
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Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
November 12 2010 08:42 GMT
#90

Oh you.
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Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
November 12 2010 09:21 GMT
#91
Man you fought back against 4 niggas and managed to keep your shit?

You're lucky you didn't get seriously beat up.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
November 12 2010 10:52 GMT
#92
On November 12 2010 18:21 Loanshark wrote:
Man you fought back against 4 niggas and managed to keep your shit?

You're lucky you didn't get seriously beat up.


eh.....
DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
November 12 2010 11:00 GMT
#93
Back in school whenever i was out partying and was going home late at night i would walk through a park, not a long walk just 3-5 minutes in the park. Quite often there where some small groups of youths (immigrants but that is not that important) around 15-18 years old either passing through or hanging abouut. They never really gave me any issues and i was not that worried, I am not buff or anything but pretty tall and wearing big boots, and i just dont generally worry.

Anyways once at around 3 in the night i was going home and ran across a bigger group than usually, 8-9 of them and the walked up to me and told me to give them my wallet and phone. Actually laughed a bit at first since my phone was bloody ancient and me being a poor student i had like five dollars on me. Did not see the point in fighting but i talked to them telling them how bloody pointless it was, they were hostile but did not flat out attack me. Anyways, i took out my cards from the wallet (ID, VISA, some other cards) and gave them the wallet with my mighty fortune in change aswell as my phone. One of them told me to give them my cards aswell but i said something along the lines of "dont be an asshole, you got no use for my ID, and my first call when you leave will be to block my VISA card from further use, might aswell let me keep them" and others agreed and they left...

All in all, pretty anti-climatic experience. Called the cops next day, but did not have much to report/say.

And i very much doubt i would actively fight robbers, cash, phone and other stuff are not worth dying for. Besides, i got insurance...
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[Fin]Vittu
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada507 Posts
November 12 2010 11:23 GMT
#94
On November 12 2010 13:47 MrHoon wrote:
You shouldn't of fought back, especially since they were in a Car They could've been armed man, you took a huge risk. Anyways I applaud to your courage, I would've dropped down and just given everything I had. Things like these just happen I guess. I've never been mugged in my life so I really can't give you any advice (sorry )

But there is one TL Staff member who beat the shit out of the people who tried to mug him. Hopefully he will read this thread and help you out what to do on those situations and etc (not saying you should go jackie chan whenever some wants your stuff)



was there a thread for this epic story?

i want to hear about how those muggers got beaten up
The "Finnish Metal Terran"
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
November 12 2010 11:34 GMT
#95
this sucks ! i was never mugged and i hope i never will be !
you tried to fought back 4 black guys ? you got some balls mate ! fortunately in Bratislava there are no black gangs well yea gypsies but they are usually on drugs so not big deal...

btw i like this idea
If you want to feel safer in a good way I would seriously say learn some Parkour!

friend of mine is little bit nerdy type and he looks like Easy to take down guy but he is doing some kind of Russian self defense called Dragon (or something like that) its really helpful i think
SlyinZ
Profile Joined August 2010
France199 Posts
November 12 2010 11:49 GMT
#96
Yes i have been mugged by gypsies.
I tried to do stuff, but they broke 3 of my teeth and my arm.
So i let the police do...nothing
Horrde
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada302 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 13:30:15
November 12 2010 13:23 GMT
#97
On topic: I've had a similar experience (at baseline station if NeverExpo reads this), just like many other TLers here. I ran and managed to get away, but looking back that wasn't the best choice. I guess nothing left to say but take the proper precautions for next time and keep your head up.

Off topic: TL is surprising me more and more with the amount of absolute garbage replies. It was bad before, but this is terrible. Really, buy a gun and pull it out so he can attempt to scare 4 aggressive young men away? They'll either shoot back and/or attack out of panic or run away. Is a rough coinflip worth your life? Fucking idiots. And to the poster suggesting he invest in a 12 gauge to carry around and the one suggesting he learn to fight with needles... well I just picture a fatass basement dweller posting in his computer screen glare wearing shit stained underwear. Get some experience man, you don't know anything.

To op: There's not much you could of done differently. You took it pretty well. It's a loss/loss situation and I believe you know you won't be a hero by somehow beating these 4 guys up in the end. Well done.
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 13:57:59
November 12 2010 13:56 GMT
#98
This is the first time i've been mugged or assaulted upon encounter. I don't think i want to train in any kind of self defense that requires me to attack back, because i really don't want to encounter this ordeal again.

I talked it out with a few friends and i'm just going to buy a parking permit and park inside the school. I'm never going to carry my wallet to school and just carry 10 bucks cash and my license/school id just in case.

Guys i didn't necessarily fight back full on. I just pushed them away and swung my leg at them to keep them away so i could make another escape. They surrounded me and ended up wrestling me and punching. They were extremely aggressive and had i swung at one of them i think their motive would have switched from simply "stealing money" to "beat the shit out of him then steal his money". My personal advice to any of you if you encounter the same thing i think the best choice would be to give them your wallet and walk away. I honestly wish i took that route realizing how close i was to a serious injury or even possibly death over stupid materialistic reasons. My stupid actions pretty much told the 4 muggers that i have alot of valuable things that i'm not willing to give up and that probably encouraged them to be as aggressive as they were with me.

All in all i'm thankful for all the supportive replies. I certainly am starting to feel better although i'm having trouble sleeping but it feels good to know there people do care.
Kms
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia126 Posts
November 12 2010 14:34 GMT
#99
Damn, that's horrible :/
If it's any consolation, you handled the situation the best you could at the time and you got away safely which is the main thing. It was a 4 on 1, there wasn't really a whole lot you could do unfortunately. As for the people recommending that you get a gun, that really isn't the right way to go about it in my opinion. There's always the possibility that if you did have a gun, the attackers could always wrestle it off you, pull out a weapon of their own, etc.
Glad to know you're feeling better, and remember to stay safe!
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
November 12 2010 16:29 GMT
#100
I had a black guy try to mug me at a bus stop at 1am. There were 3 other people tehre waiting for the bus that just stood there doing nothing. He came up behind me, put a knife to my stomach, told me to chill out and give him the drugs. I smoked a joint an hour earlier so I guess he could smell it on me. I gave him the half gram I had on me without a second thought. Then he wanted my PSP. Being the crazy fucker I am I grabbed his arm, shoved him away and backed away 10-15 feet. He started walking towards me saying "give me ur fucking psp, ill fucking cut you". I raged, told him to go fuck himself and his mother was a stupid cunt who shouldn't have smoked so much crack while pregnant. I walked away, 20 seconds later I see him running full speed towards me. I cross the street, swear at him some more, the bus comes and he gets on. I flag down a bus going the other way, tell the driver, he reports it. Nothing happens. They never caught the guy.
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
PetitCrabe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada410 Posts
November 12 2010 17:36 GMT
#101
One funny fact

once my friend was getting mugged by 3 youngers dudes... one of them started stepping on my friends shoes and ask for his wallet, so my friend punched him and the other 2 ran away, while my friend kept beating up the last one. the bully ended up crying and asking why he was getting beaten
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 12 2010 18:26 GMT
#102
When I lived in providence I would always walk/bike everywhere and some parts of PVD are pretty sketchy. I always made sure that people weren't around me at night, especially the poorer people (black people and methed up white people). If there were I'd walk faster or cross the street and if I still feel uncomfortable with someone nearby I'd do a light jog. Get to where I needed to be faster anyhow. Sounds pretty paranoid but a number of people were mugged/beat up in the area and being asian I gotta watch my ass.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19050 Posts
November 12 2010 18:31 GMT
#103
On November 12 2010 13:47 MrHoon wrote:
You shouldn't of fought back, especially since they were in a Car They could've been armed man, you took a huge risk. Anyways I applaud to your courage, I would've dropped down and just given everything I had. Things like these just happen I guess. I've never been mugged in my life so I really can't give you any advice (sorry )

But there is one TL Staff member who beat the shit out of the people who tried to mug him. Hopefully he will read this thread and help you out what to do on those situations and etc (not saying you should go jackie chan whenever some wants your stuff)

I have 2 guesses on this:
1) It was iNcontroL
2) It was Mani
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19050 Posts
November 12 2010 18:32 GMT
#104
Anyway, trying to fight back or run is the worst option. Just give up your stuff. With online banking you can see when/where checks are cashed, at which point the police can go get security camera footage and arrest the guys. Also, a few hundred dollars and a phone is a lot easier to replace than...er..you.
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
November 12 2010 19:00 GMT
#105
On November 13 2010 03:31 tofucake wrote:
1) It was iNcontroL
2) It was Mani


Don't think ppl would pick incontrol to mug, especially when there are the other 99% of the human population they can mug from without getting head pushed in neck.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
grats
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States184 Posts
November 12 2010 19:03 GMT
#106
concealed weapons permit, seemed like a perfect time to have one. (I know the permit wont save you but the gun will)
devil`
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States176 Posts
November 12 2010 19:30 GMT
#107
I was jumped one time. I was out with my friends and this truck was driving by while us 3 were out on the sidewalk and it was pitch dark. One of my dumass friends through a handful of rocks at the truck and I was unaware so we all just started running. The truck immediately stopped and out came a 6 and a half food tall black man running after us. I was only 15 at the time so I had no luck in even winning as he looked about 21-25. Anyway I looked back while running and saw what appeared to be one of my friends so I slowed down a little because at the time I didn't know the man was chasing us.

I said "dude what the fuck did you do that for" when a huge tackle landed on me. I was laying in a ditch in our neighborhood just taking punches and kicks from this man. I was too scared to fight back because of the thought of him having a knife or gun so I just layed there getting kicked, which when a person is laying on the ground being kicked, that is categorized as assault with a deadly weapon and could have got him a good 20 years. During my beating 2 ladies showed up and just stood there and watch. I mean seriously, they just stood there and watched. They did not even bother to help, or call the police. So here I am getting beaten for 5 minutes while 2 ladies are 5 feet away not doing a thing. The driver of the car that got hit with rocks eventually came around and got her son off of me. She called the police as well.

So when the police arrived I explained what happened and how he attacked me when I did not even throw the rocks, and he just sat there and denied it, and those 2 bitches that were just watching it just denied me getting hit. Like what the fuck? They are that scared? Anyway I had the bruises and knots on my head that shows he assaulted me, and of course they asked if i wanted to press charges but I couldn't because they would have pressed charges against my friend who already had previous charges and was on a probation. Anyway, never talked to that friend again.

And on a side note; if you see someone getting attacked, don't stand there like an idiot you fuckhead, get some help
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
November 12 2010 19:42 GMT
#108
On November 13 2010 03:31 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 13:47 MrHoon wrote:
You shouldn't of fought back, especially since they were in a Car They could've been armed man, you took a huge risk. Anyways I applaud to your courage, I would've dropped down and just given everything I had. Things like these just happen I guess. I've never been mugged in my life so I really can't give you any advice (sorry )

But there is one TL Staff member who beat the shit out of the people who tried to mug him. Hopefully he will read this thread and help you out what to do on those situations and etc (not saying you should go jackie chan whenever some wants your stuff)

I have 2 guesses on this:
1) It was iNcontroL
2) It was Mani


Kennigit ?
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
November 12 2010 20:48 GMT
#109
On November 13 2010 04:42 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 03:31 tofucake wrote:
On November 12 2010 13:47 MrHoon wrote:
You shouldn't of fought back, especially since they were in a Car They could've been armed man, you took a huge risk. Anyways I applaud to your courage, I would've dropped down and just given everything I had. Things like these just happen I guess. I've never been mugged in my life so I really can't give you any advice (sorry )

But there is one TL Staff member who beat the shit out of the people who tried to mug him. Hopefully he will read this thread and help you out what to do on those situations and etc (not saying you should go jackie chan whenever some wants your stuff)

I have 2 guesses on this:
1) It was iNcontroL
2) It was Mani


Kennigit ?


Chill in my opinion, he's chill until you start to mug him then he goes nuts.
Hi.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 12 2010 20:59 GMT
#110
it was kennigit
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 21:20:36
November 12 2010 21:15 GMT
#111
To all the people saying don't use a gun cause it's not gonna scare 4 guys away: I don't think anyone buys a gun so that they can "scare" people away. I'd shoot first and ask questions later, thanks. And anyways, if no one ever shoots assholes that go around mugging people, it will just get more prevalent as anyone can get away with it.

Someone ought to take these fuckers out, consider it your civic duty if you own a gun.

Seriously, if every single person that gets mugged just sits down and considers it an acceptable loss, then these people will never ever be brought to justice. It disgusts me to think that they are unlikely to ever pay for their crime. I mean, if you don't have a weapon, obviously, it's an acceptable loss. But if you have the means to protect yourself, don't let these criminals continue plaguing our society.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 21:24:41
November 12 2010 21:22 GMT
#112
I thought you couldn't carry handguns in California. (I thought you said Compton, right?)

On November 13 2010 05:48 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 04:42 SnowFantasy wrote:
On November 13 2010 03:31 tofucake wrote:
On November 12 2010 13:47 MrHoon wrote:
You shouldn't of fought back, especially since they were in a Car They could've been armed man, you took a huge risk. Anyways I applaud to your courage, I would've dropped down and just given everything I had. Things like these just happen I guess. I've never been mugged in my life so I really can't give you any advice (sorry )

But there is one TL Staff member who beat the shit out of the people who tried to mug him. Hopefully he will read this thread and help you out what to do on those situations and etc (not saying you should go jackie chan whenever some wants your stuff)

I have 2 guesses on this:
1) It was iNcontroL
2) It was Mani


Kennigit ?


Chill in my opinion, he's chill until you start to mug him then he goes nuts.


Or you post something stupid in Strategy section.
[Fin]Vittu
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada507 Posts
November 22 2010 07:13 GMT
#113
On November 13 2010 05:59 Coagulation wrote:
it was kennigit


is the story on TL as a thread?

if so, i wanna read it :D
The "Finnish Metal Terran"
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 07:25:29
November 22 2010 07:22 GMT
#114
Wow man... I'm sorry that happened to you but I'm glad you are alive and okay.
However...

You should never fight back when you get mugged or anything like that, it's just too risky. There were 4 of them and they could have been carrying knives or even guns... if they were you would have been in serious trouble...

I got mugged once too, a large man approached my girlfriend and I when we were walking back to the apartment late night and demanded my money. I just gave him everything and he bolted off. I lost about 40 dollars, my phone, and all my ID and credit card etc but I am glad we were safe. If I tried to run or fight him really bad shit could have happened regardless if he was armed or not....

So next time please please please just don't fight back or run!
always tired -_-
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 09:41:04
November 22 2010 07:37 GMT
#115
On November 13 2010 05:48 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 04:42 SnowFantasy wrote:
On November 13 2010 03:31 tofucake wrote:
On November 12 2010 13:47 MrHoon wrote:
You shouldn't of fought back, especially since they were in a Car They could've been armed man, you took a huge risk. Anyways I applaud to your courage, I would've dropped down and just given everything I had. Things like these just happen I guess. I've never been mugged in my life so I really can't give you any advice (sorry )

But there is one TL Staff member who beat the shit out of the people who tried to mug him. Hopefully he will read this thread and help you out what to do on those situations and etc (not saying you should go jackie chan whenever some wants your stuff)

I have 2 guesses on this:
1) It was iNcontroL
2) It was Mani


Kennigit ?


Chill in my opinion, he's chill until you start to mug him then he goes nuts.


You guys need to know your TL history lessons. It was Kennigit. Two muggers were trying to take his sunglasses iirc, and almost got killed.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 10:00:10
November 22 2010 09:12 GMT
#116
On November 22 2010 16:37 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 05:48 d(O.o)a wrote:
On November 13 2010 04:42 SnowFantasy wrote:
On November 13 2010 03:31 tofucake wrote:
On November 12 2010 13:47 MrHoon wrote:
You shouldn't of fought back, especially since they were in a Car They could've been armed man, you took a huge risk. Anyways I applaud to your courage, I would've dropped down and just given everything I had. Things like these just happen I guess. I've never been mugged in my life so I really can't give you any advice (sorry )

But there is one TL Staff member who beat the shit out of the people who tried to mug him. Hopefully he will read this thread and help you out what to do on those situations and etc (not saying you should go jackie chan whenever some wants your stuff)

I have 2 guesses on this:
1) It was iNcontroL
2) It was Mani


Kennigit ?


Chill in my opinion, he's chill until you start to mug him then he goes nuts.


You guys need to know your TL history lessons. It was Kennigit. Two muggers were trying to take his sunglasses iirc, and almost got killed.


I tried to click the link and got "Not enough rights"

Anyway I do remember reading a blog where this guy got into a fight which he didn't start then totally beat up the aggressor and kicked him while he was down then left.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
[Fin]Vittu
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada507 Posts
November 22 2010 19:59 GMT
#117
can someone bump that said thread?
The "Finnish Metal Terran"
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10495 Posts
November 22 2010 20:34 GMT
#118
Speak to this guy if you want advice on what to do if you are being mugged by 4 black males

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Goetz
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
November 22 2010 20:36 GMT
#119
this is why im not applying to johns hopkins
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