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Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
November 10 2010 21:42 GMT
#1
Okay so ladies and gentlemen are you ready for a story? First a story about how I received my mouse..

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Oooh it lights up... APM technology? sadly no

It's a nice mouse 5600 DPI more than I really need but I got it super cheap technically free but I had to renew my WoW account to get it so total cost $15. This happened in April great timing for the SC2 Beta but here is the story.

If you played WoW any decent amount you should have some general idea of who Swifty is he basically has been the predominant Warrior PVP guy since the beginning of WoW. He recently (in the last year or so) started posting a TON of videos on youtube and running contests with prizes from his sponsor... you guessed it Razer. Now he posts this video announcing the winner of one of his contests.. highest attack power contest.



Now you'll notice the character named Adariana from Bronzebeard and the Guild Icefall (he calls it the server Icefall on accident) This was my character when I still played WoW. armory link for those interested

Now the interesting thing about this was at the time he posted this video I hadnt played WoW in over 2 months so immediately I knew something was up.

So it was time to put on my sleuthing hat!
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Close enough

First thing I did was grab a screenshot from the HD version of his video of the character screen.

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Hmm that looks odd I think I know what happened here

So then I went to my youtube videos where I have a particularly familiar looking video of myself beating the shit out of a training dummy to show off the Feral DPS rotation.



Notice at about 43 seconds in you can see that exact image including the mouse selecting the same piece of equipment on the character menu..

So I screenshotted that compared and proceeded to laugh my fucking ass off.

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Hmm that image is big

Time for some CSI shit right here

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Side by side image comparison they do this in CSI right?

Notice how fucking stupid this guy is he literally added a 1 in front of the attack power number. That's it that's all he did. If you watch the Swifty video you'll notice that my character looks different well he took this screenshot and paired it with a screenshot later in the video with all hte buffs on screen. But there was one problem... At no one point in the video does my character get every buff possible.. Okay so that's easy enough to fix right?

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Lets look at the buffs.. something isn't right here

Zoom in... enhance..

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You don't even need much knowlege to see this guy did a botched photoshop job on these..

So at this point I have beyond a shadow of a doubt proven to myself this guy took a few screenshots from my video threw them together in photoshop and submitted it to Swifty who being none the wiser quite literally said "WHOA!" And proceeded to send him a mouse...

Grumble grumble feeling like I got slapped across the face I gathered all my evidence and sent Swifty a nice little letter.. And got no response. Hmm that's odd well yeah he is Swifty. He's only got...

55,000 subscribers.. Oh shit. Okay so what do I do now? I posted a video basically me sitting there in front of my webcam explaining what happened and providing links in the video description. Then I proceeded to tack this on as a video response to the video he posted in question..

HAH that got his attention fast, not only his but apparently Razer wanted me to remove the video NOW! Because apparently they didnt want people knowing the winner of a contest they sponsored cheated. Okay whatever I removed it.

Finally having Swifty's attention I proceeded to talk to him give him all my evidence again he made me log into my character (15 bucks to renew grumble grumble) he assured me that if I was right he'd send me a mouse for a troubles. So I was like hey whatever free Razer mouse I resubscribed and talked to him in game on the character in question. A few weeks later I'm the proud owner of a new Razer Imperator.. See picture above.

Just one fucking problem. Fast forward 6 months and this mouse is being fucking retarded. Basically the left click sensor is shot. When I try to single click it will often double click, if I try to click and hold to do box selections it will doubleclick and interrupt the click and hold.

Translation: I can't use this mouse to play basically any video game that uses a mouse without it fucking it up.

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My mouse isnt this bad but it's pretty damned close

So wait a minute.. Razer mice have a 2 year warranty right? I contacted support and their literal answer was

It sounds like your product may be in need of an exchange. If you purchased your unit outside the USA or Canada your reseller should be able to assist you with any exchange.


blah blah blah warranty bullshit with a form to fill out including.. Proof of purchase wait wut? I proceeded to their website and found this little gem..

2) What if I don't have a Proof of Purchase?

If you purchased directly from Razerzone.com, we may have a record of your purchase and can locate it for you. Just let us know the order number. If you do not have the order number we may be able to locate it using your name, address and e-mail address.

If you purchased from a Razer dealer or reseller, contact the dealer or reseller and see if they can provide a copy of your receipt. They will often have your purchase history on file and be able to supply a copy of the receipt for you.

If the Product was purchased on line, be sure to check your old e-mails. The vendor should have sent you a confirmation page showing that the Product has been shipped to you.

If the Product was a gift we suggest you ask the giver to provide you with a receipt. You may also ask them if they could handle the Limited Warranty process for you if asking for the receipt is not appropriate.


So basically my problem here is... Razer won't send me a new mouse under the warranty terms which their own support staff says I qualify for... Unless I can provide them with a proof of purchase. But I did not purchase this mouse I received it as a gift from someone who is sponsored by Razer to run contests with their products.. And who I have tried to contact about this for almost a month now with no response. Okay I can salvage this right? I can call them and sort this out... maybe.

Basically after a couple of hours getting transferred around the best answer I could get from anyone was well send in the form with an explanation that I received it from this contest and provide the details. So I did this and I got this response.

Hello,

We would like to assist you further in this matter, but if the mouse was from Swifty, you will need his help to 1. get the proof of purchase from him or 2. he will have to exchange the mouse for you.
We will not be able to contact any retailers/distributors/third parties to verify on the validity of the purchase/win in this case.
We hope you understand, and we hope you are able to get hold of Swifty soon.
Thank you.


So basically they didn't even fucking read my email seeing as the whole point was I've been trying to contact this guy who Razer has affiliated himself with for a MONTH I havent been able to play any video games seriously for A MONTH and instead of trying to help me since they sponsor this guy they say "Tough titties we're not going to help you fuck off."

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My image of Razer tech support right now

So now I"m sitting here extremely pissed off my only option right now is to record another video in front of my webcam explaining this to swifty and hope he can pull something. Because if not I"m screwed out of an $80 mouse that is under warranty terms and they admit should be exchanged but they won't exchange.. God fucking damnit.

Lesson Learned: If you win any product in a contest make sure they give you a proof of purchase because if it breaks you could get fucked over by tech support without one.

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breakingties
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom72 Posts
November 10 2010 21:47 GMT
#2
Razer mice, nothing new sadly.
fhlg
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
November 10 2010 21:49 GMT
#3
So are you saying you shouldn't have bothered calling out on the cheater?

also lol razer gaming mice.. consider logitech next time
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 10 2010 21:50 GMT
#4
Logitech doesn't require proof of purchase.
starleague forever
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19221 Posts
November 10 2010 21:55 GMT
#5
Hurray for support!

Oh wait.

This sucks. Might I suggest getting Razer as a sponsor and getting a new mouse that way? I've been happy with my little Logitech Optical Mini for 3 years now. That fancy 10 billion DPI crap is overkill anyway. Go with a sturdy $10 mouse.
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
November 10 2010 21:55 GMT
#6
Thats one hell of a story, but at least your mouse isn't randomly dying every 2 minutes like mine is, try playing iccup with that baby.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
November 10 2010 21:58 GMT
#7
Logitech is easier to deal with for mice replacements.

Also, I'llm a huge Razer fan, but the operator is the single worst mouse I have ever used. The z tracking is atrocious and generally feels cheap.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 22:02:24
November 10 2010 22:00 GMT
#8
On November 11 2010 06:55 besiger wrote:
Thats one hell of a story, but at least your mouse isn't randomly dying every 2 minutes like mine is, try playing iccup with that baby.


Oh it randomly freezes too just stops responding but thats a whole different cup of tea...

PS:


attached that to his most recent video we'll see what happens.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
November 10 2010 22:05 GMT
#9
On November 11 2010 07:00 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
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On November 11 2010 06:55 besiger wrote:
Thats one hell of a story, but at least your mouse isn't randomly dying every 2 minutes like mine is, try playing iccup with that baby.


Oh it randomly freezes too just stops responding but thats a whole different cup of tea...

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZlak_LaN2w

attached that to his most recent video we'll see what happens.


I think mine is losing connection at the base of the cord, it was like 15$ a basic logitech mouse, but at least it lasted for 3 years, im too scared to open it and try to re solder the cord because I have no backup mouse and no money.

I like your clock in the background ^^
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
November 10 2010 22:07 GMT
#10
This is a tragic tale, please respond Swifty, iCCup TV need you!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19221 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 22:13:57
November 10 2010 22:11 GMT
#11
On November 11 2010 07:07 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
This is a tragic tale, please respond swiftly Swifty, iCCup TV need you!



Anyway, on to a more constructive post. Razer needs to stop being jerks, but I understand where they are coming from in regards to not giving you a replacement, ie: "how do we know you're not some random hobo who wants a mouse"?

Let's all have a candlelight vigil for the mouse.
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
November 10 2010 22:17 GMT
#12
Yeah, since Swifty is so sponsored by Razer he'll easily get you a new mouse, i'm pretty sure you'll just get a brand new one sent to ya - it's such bad press for them to have mice break.
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 22:23:17
November 10 2010 22:18 GMT
#13
Really you should just be happy you got a free mouse to use for some months.

This guy had no responsibility to right the wrong that occured when someone used a shopped picture of your character for a contest... but he did anyways. You should consider yourself fortunate for that and not bother him cus the mouse you got FOR FREE broke.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 22:21:36
November 10 2010 22:20 GMT
#14
On November 11 2010 07:11 tofucake wrote:
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On November 11 2010 07:07 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
This is a tragic tale, please respond swiftly Swifty, iCCup TV need you!



Anyway, on to a more constructive post. Razer needs to stop being jerks, but I understand where they are coming from in regards to not giving you a replacement, ie: "how do we know you're not some random hobo who wants a mouse"?

Let's all have a candlelight vigil for the mouse.


The problem is they Sponsor him and he's extremely hard to contact. This is a problem, he did not provide me with proof of purchase when he sent me the mouse... this is a problem. And Razer when I called them said they "might be able to contact him internally but they're not sure." This is a problem. This is stupid on so many levels who sponsors someone sends them prizes to give out in contests over the course of several months then completely cuts all contact? How does he get more prizes does he only contact them? How did they tell him OMG GET HIM TO REMOVE THAT VIDEO when I posted the first one? They obviously have the capability to contact him but they won't.

On November 11 2010 07:18 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Really you should just be happy you got a free mouse to use for some months.


When I received this mouse I had the capability to buy a different one but why would I? Free mouse, now I don't really have the capability to be spending money on mice and it's under warranty so they SHOULD be sending me a new one because they made a bet. "Hey we're certain this won't break." And it did so pay up.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
November 10 2010 22:25 GMT
#15
Ragecun in action!
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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
November 10 2010 22:43 GMT
#16
I got a Razer, arctosa I think.

Switched it back after about 30 seconds. Piece of utter fucking trash.

ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
November 10 2010 23:15 GMT
#17
I wouldn't expect Razer to care at all unless there's proof of purchase. That's pretty obvious. The problem here is Swifty's lack of reply.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
November 10 2010 23:21 GMT
#18
This has to be one of the most confusing blogs I've read in a long time. I've not had a problem with my diamond back and I've had it for 18+ months.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 10 2010 23:25 GMT
#19
You´d probably get a Salmosa for 15$ somewhere.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
frogmelter
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States971 Posts
November 10 2010 23:30 GMT
#20
Ask one of your friends if they have a spare mouse

Most people have tons of them lying around

It probably won't be a gamer mouse, but it will still work fine
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