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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 20:53:16
November 08 2010 20:49 GMT
#1
First of all, I would like to acknowledge the fact that I am grateful we have the problem of oversaturation of tournaments and new companies/websites willing to invest in esports and sc2. It just needs to be focused and organized.


Something that wastes sooo much time and irks me greatly is the 'click here and sign up through this thread' when entering a new tournament.

Here are the reasons why:

Poor websites:
Hard to navigate, confusing layouts, slow design, etc.
Even if you think you have the most idiot proof website, It's still as foreign as anything else and people will be lost. This causes headaches and wastes time for both organizers and participants.

Creating an account:
You have to have an email, so you also need to login to that in order to confirm you registration. That is of course if you even manage to get that far without throwing your keyboard.
The create account process often includes the dreaded captchas, or unknown requirements that if not met will reset your entire registration form (or some of the blanks at least). Password and name requirements often need numbers and letters, or just letters or just numbers, or minimum 8 characters, or whatever. This makes it impossible to just use one name/pass for every damned site that you register for.
Sorry SpoR was taken, try again. Password too short, retype everything, Password must contain alphanumeric characters only, retype everything, MRI scan of your brain required, retype everything.

Sites don't remember you:
Sometimes, for whatever reason the site/firefox doesn't remember the login info (maybe the site/page changed, who knows). So you go to check your email and they haven't even sent you the information originally. So what can you do?
Hunt down the little bit of text wherever it may be that says "Forgot login/password?". You click it. Sometimes you just need an email (that is, if you can remember which trash email you used to sign up for the tourney in the first place to prevent spam), sometimes you need login name, sometimes there is a riddle, secret question, or captcha. If by chance you make it passed this step, they don't send you an email with your name and pass, they just send you a random string of bullshit for a password reset. So now you have to go back to the site and find the fucking account editing and change your password or even login so that you can hope to remember it later.

System:
Some of these leagues or ladders also have some kind of system in place to run their events. This can be in the form of some program you need to install and run or some buttons or crap you need to click on their website to report games or whatever during events. This is overall just added hassle and confusion.


On top of the technicality aspect of it there are things like these:


Bad organization:
The hosts of these websites/tournies are often new to everything. So it can be a little frustrating when things aren't clearly written on; times, dates, checkins, how many matches per round, how to contact admins/opponents, what maps you play, how the brackets will be, if people are invited and seeded, what some rules are on other little specific things. Some of these tournies also require you to play multiple days when they could just as easily be a 1 or 2 day event.
Also, some of these events don't even have a related TL thread if they just did a hit n run on the tourney tracker.

Timing:
Another huge problem is they don't take the time to check when other events are already planned/running or take into account of time zones. This wouldn't be a problem if they just took a look at, and used themselves- the TL Tracker, which is trying desperately to have some semblance of organization.

Hastily prepared tournaments:
I already touched on this issue a little, but it is further amplified by events that post/change only days or hours in advance. How can we mark our calendars or play in their events if we have other arrangements. If a tourney is serious/professional it shouldn't be a spur of the moment thing.

Way too many tournaments:
WHAT?!
Yes, I said it. A huge problem is that there are just too damn many tournaments. If some of these smaller events would collaborate and combine efforts they would much better off. The prize pools would be greater, the turnouts would be greater, the organizers and players would be much happier, TL would be less cluttered. Not only that but they can build relationships and network with each other. Learn from each other, help each other, create great things together. After all SC/TL are build on community
I have to check 2 places just about every day to make sure I don't miss anything because there is so much stuff.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=36
http://www.teamliquid.net/tournaments/

Tournament Tracker:
USE IT. Also, make an accompanying thread to go along and link with it in case people want to ask questions or discuss things about the event. Half of these tournies that pop up are either unaware of or don't know how to use the tracker. Half the headache is just sifting through the forums to find your event.



Overall it's just a waste of fucking time, if the guy hosting the tournament has the time to go and post on this website then he should also take the time to allow signups from the thread he posts in. HE should come back to collect names for his event, instead of spamming forums all over the web for people to play in his event and just sitting back doing nothing until the event. Without the people, you have nothing. Hit and Run to advertise their site to get hits or something is ridiculous. The time I spend every week looking around TL forums registering for random websites and signing up for tournaments is HOURS and HOURS. I am not joking, this shit is absurd. I could be practicing.

/rant




*****
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
November 08 2010 20:53 GMT
#2
Sweet tips embedded in this rant. Thanks for the info. I'll bet the process will improve with more experience (or bad experiences). Good luck!
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 21:04:14
November 08 2010 21:03 GMT
#3
Actually before sc2 was released i believed in the epicness of bnet 2.0 and so i naturally thought Bnet would handle of that, like notifications, tourney-list and easy sign-ups integrated into Bnet.

Once into the tourney Bnet would support Admins by making sure of maps/times/commercials/breaks etc....

Ofc if u just wanted to watch you could "jump" into any game and watch the game, ofc delayed, with an active commentary of my choice, with manual camera or not.

After the games are done Bnet 2.0 pays out the rewards which it got paid before the tourney started.

Ofc it was quite the shock to see that Bnet 2.0 is just a sometimes laggy Bnet 1.0 , which seperates the world into 7? regions .
SeeDLiNg
Profile Joined January 2010
United States690 Posts
November 08 2010 21:21 GMT
#4
On November 09 2010 06:03 Teejing wrote:
Ofc it was quite the shock to see that Bnet 2.0 is just a sometimes laggy Bnet 1.0 , which seperates the world into 7? regions .

actually, with no chat channels, every user is in their own little region imo
Dont Panic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States194 Posts
November 08 2010 21:42 GMT
#5
I wish they would carry out registration and stuff through TL. I don't really care about the prize pool personally because its just fun to compete for something.
I am order. I am logic. I know exactly who I am.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
November 08 2010 21:42 GMT
#6
Yeah, collaborative efforts would be great, unfortunately i suppose sponsors want "their own" events. =\
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
November 08 2010 21:47 GMT
#7
The only thing I have the biggest issue with is tournament organizers not bothering to check times of other tournies (or if they do, they ignore them). There's tons of tournaments on the same day within a couple hours of each other, or at the same time, which is very annoying.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
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