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potatomash3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia417 Posts
November 04 2010 02:35 GMT
#41
@crazeman

There is a difference between being grateful and being obliged, I think you're referring to the latter. Personally, I'd try to put myself in my parents prespective. Would I be happy if my child grew up into an ungrateful bastard after I raised him/ her for 18+ years? I think not.
Part of being mature is to accept your loss.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
November 04 2010 02:46 GMT
#42
On November 04 2010 08:03 Xtal wrote:
Pros: Further my education -- work towards a degree for a better future

Cons I don't believe there are cons in college asides from the time spent in classes that do nothing for your goals.


I have nothing against college its just not what I want to do. I wanted to get a normal minimum wage job like any other kid and make some money but that wasn't an option, to my parents.

Cons: these are like 80% of your classes...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
November 04 2010 02:54 GMT
#43
On November 04 2010 11:34 Sebby Lebby wrote:
But you can be the 10% who does it right too, so if you go to college ASAP be serious about it, which means be bold getting advice from lots of people. A lot of professors will give you really good advice. Some will tell you to fuck off but seriously, be a weirdo and go to every professor's office hour, even in your first week as a freshman, just go and talk to them, tell them what you know about yourself and don't know, tell them what you want. If you want to leave college with your life set a certain way, u better get specific abuot it and informed about how to do it, don't think it's just a matter of choosing the right program and getting good grades, because it's not. Think about things like this: Will you be able to go to grad school? Will you be able to get an internship? A job lined up before you graduate? Have a handle on shit like this from day 1. If you don't know, don't graduate. Get more majors. Get minors. Whatever. Volunteer. Fill your resume up with cool stuff that you like to do, and if you don't know what that would be, then keep trying new things--boldly--against your comfort zone.

That's how u would win. Most ppl only figure this out later and maybe do it for 1-2 yrs. If you do it for 3+ you win... so just be bold, talking to every old adult on the campus. Hell, before you even enroll you can walk around a campus doing this. Office hours are posted. Just be like, hello, I'm thinking about coming here but I want some advice on how to get where I want to go. I know I'm only 19 but right now I'm thinking that I want to go through college so I can have a better job later on.

A lot of professors are going to have some shocking things to say about that. How college isn't just for that. They're going to tell you that this might not be your only goal, or they might tell you which programs are better suited for that. And I think they're right. by the time you graduate you will probably not feel the same way about learning, college, money, and your future. Of course you want those things too... but

This is gold advice and something I was gonna post. I didn't do any of that shit and when I graduated, it's what I wish I did.

Seriously, college is for two things: you either get a job at the end, or you do research in whatever field interests you by taking even more school. Classes are just ways to weed out people who can't hack it. I don't think I've ever used anything I've learned in college at my job, I work in environmental engineering for the government, my coworkers have Ph.D's and MS degrees, and when it comes to on-the-job performance we're pretty much equal and none of it is based off of anything we ever learned in college.

So many people are thinking "Wahhhhh I don't what to do for a career?" You know why? Because they've never looked at a career! Have you ever interviewed someone in a field you were even remotely interested in? Walked a day in their shoes to see what it's like? That's the problem with a lot of majors, they assume "Oh well I like movies so I'll be a movie major and for a job I'll look at movies all day" and by the time job hunting comes around, they realize there's nothing like that. Instead of looking at the names of classes and determining whether or not Solid State Mechanics or Classic Poetry is what "really" interests you, get to know people at the career center. Try to set up informational interviews at companies so you know what jobs are actually out there and what people actually do.

That's why working before college is cool. You actually look for a job, you get a job, and then you realize what kinda jobs are out there and what prevents you from advancing so you know what to do to get ahead. But you can do all that shit in college too.
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
November 04 2010 03:01 GMT
#44
Yet another person saying... Go back home and go to school. No matter what you end up doing in the end you will always have something to fall back on. Especially if you want a family, you want a good job because stressing over money on top of stressing over everything else is harrrrd.

TLDR: Put aside your own thoughts, feelings, and stubborness and listen to your parents and fellow TL members. Get your fucking ass back in school!
lixlix
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 03:07:42
November 04 2010 03:06 GMT
#45
Not going to tell you what you should do as I doubt that helps. Besides, sometimes you just gotta figure it out on your own.

Will give some advice though. I don't have any experience with pro gaming so I won't get in to that but grinding out a living playing poker is hell of a lot harder than working a job or going to college. It takes vastly more dedication than reading a largely irrelevant poker book written 30 years ago. You think the people you are playing against haven't read Supersystems?

I'm not even going to mention that they'll have hundreds of thousands of hands of experience up on you. How are you going to overcome that? Are you supersmart? Because some of these people are.

Do you even have the bankroll to start? Do you even have an idea how much of a bankroll (thats money on top of living expenses) you need to play for your living?

I don't mean to burst your bubble but thinking you'll be the next Rekrul based purely on you reading SuperSystems is pretty delusional.



crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
November 04 2010 03:12 GMT
#46
On November 04 2010 11:15 Hikko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 11:01 crazeman wrote:
On November 04 2010 09:39 DISHU wrote:
On November baller wrote:
so ur parents love u and want the best 4 u, they want u 2 go to college and they take care of 4-5 other kids as well as u. they've provided 4 u and fed u and housed u all this time. and u throw a temper tantrum bc "they pressure u" to do well in school or w/e and ur 19yo superplan is to meet up with some chick in florida and travel". sounds just like bill gates dropping out of harvard man good luck.


This. You sound like the most ungrateful person i have ever met literally i can’t fathom why people do this to their mother a women who had you inside her for 9 month! A dad who dint sexual abuse you or beat your ass like so many other bum dads out there and all what they want is for you to try and learn for a bit not for their sakes but for your own person future and all you can say is going to see a hot chick in Florida!

Man I love my parents thank god I respect and honour them for what they have done for me and never speak rude or belittle them even if i don’t agree with them sometimes, and I hope you do to and see the errors of your ways my fellow TL member.


I probably have a weird outlook on this but...

I don't see it as you have to be "grateful" that your parents raised you/pay for your shit/wiped your shit when you're young. IMO it's part of every parent's responsibility to at least raise their children to 18 and at least pay for the bare essentials so I hate it when people spew out lines like "Your mother carried you in her womb for 9 months!"

If they didn't want to pay for my basic living expenses for 18 years, they should of had an abortion or wore a condom (I'm pretty sure like 90% of people's birth aren't planned). Ditto for carrying me for 9 months, no one held a gun to your head, you CHOOSE to do it. Yes I am aware that there are tons parents who abandon their kids all the time or don't pay child support or abuse their kids etc but thats pretty much I feel about it.

Not like I hate my parents or anything, but I've pretty much heard "You need to take care of your parents when you're older because they took care of you when you were young" line ever since I was like 4 (I'm Chinese... so it might be an Asian thing). Or better yet "If I didn't have you I can just work 6 months out the year and thats it" to which I just retort in my head "well if you used a fucking condom instead of having sex willy nilly then we wouldn't be discussing this".

I mean I'll pay and take care of my parents if they need money or when they retire in a heartbeat but don't turn it into one huge guilt fest. I'm not going to expect them to admire me and be thankful everyday when I pay for their retirement home/change their adult diaper. I'm not going to feed them lines like "If I didn't have to take care of you, then I can just take a vacation to korea to watch the GSL/Proleague finals every year". I'm not going to say "I changed your adult diapers for 9 months you should be grateful".


Especially after reading this, go back home and go back to school and be thankful that your parents want you to be better and educated with your life. There are plenty of parents who really don't care, but the fact that your parents didn't kick you out when you were 14 shows that they do care.

Rekrul's advice has always been not to follow him, it's a lot more work than you think it is. It's a lot more luck than you think it is. It's clearly a lot more dedication than you are willing to put in.


I'm not the OP FYI

@crazeman

There is a difference between being grateful and being obliged, I think you're referring to the latter. Personally, I'd try to put myself in my parents prespective. Would I be happy if my child grew up into an ungrateful bastard after I raised him/ her for 18+ years? I think not.


I guess you're right about being gateful and obliged, but grateful for your mom carrying you in the womb for 9 months? I see it as more as "obliged" as soon as she decided to do it.
Elite00fm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States548 Posts
November 04 2010 03:22 GMT
#47
You could always join the military
Sebby Lebby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
68 Posts
November 04 2010 11:46 GMT
#48
On November 04 2010 12:12 crazeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 11:15 Hikko wrote:
On November 04 2010 11:01 crazeman wrote:
On November 04 2010 09:39 DISHU wrote:
On November baller wrote:
so ur parents love u and want the best 4 u, they want u 2 go to college and they take care of 4-5 other kids as well as u. they've provided 4 u and fed u and housed u all this time. and u throw a temper tantrum bc "they pressure u" to do well in school or w/e and ur 19yo superplan is to meet up with some chick in florida and travel". sounds just like bill gates dropping out of harvard man good luck.


This. You sound like the most ungrateful person i have ever met literally i can’t fathom why people do this to their mother a women who had you inside her for 9 month! A dad who dint sexual abuse you or beat your ass like so many other bum dads out there and all what they want is for you to try and learn for a bit not for their sakes but for your own person future and all you can say is going to see a hot chick in Florida!

Man I love my parents thank god I respect and honour them for what they have done for me and never speak rude or belittle them even if i don’t agree with them sometimes, and I hope you do to and see the errors of your ways my fellow TL member.


I probably have a weird outlook on this but...

I don't see it as you have to be "grateful" that your parents raised you/pay for your shit/wiped your shit when you're young. IMO it's part of every parent's responsibility to at least raise their children to 18 and at least pay for the bare essentials so I hate it when people spew out lines like "Your mother carried you in her womb for 9 months!"

If they didn't want to pay for my basic living expenses for 18 years, they should of had an abortion or wore a condom (I'm pretty sure like 90% of people's birth aren't planned). Ditto for carrying me for 9 months, no one held a gun to your head, you CHOOSE to do it. Yes I am aware that there are tons parents who abandon their kids all the time or don't pay child support or abuse their kids etc but thats pretty much I feel about it.

Not like I hate my parents or anything, but I've pretty much heard "You need to take care of your parents when you're older because they took care of you when you were young" line ever since I was like 4 (I'm Chinese... so it might be an Asian thing). Or better yet "If I didn't have you I can just work 6 months out the year and thats it" to which I just retort in my head "well if you used a fucking condom instead of having sex willy nilly then we wouldn't be discussing this".

I mean I'll pay and take care of my parents if they need money or when they retire in a heartbeat but don't turn it into one huge guilt fest. I'm not going to expect them to admire me and be thankful everyday when I pay for their retirement home/change their adult diaper. I'm not going to feed them lines like "If I didn't have to take care of you, then I can just take a vacation to korea to watch the GSL/Proleague finals every year". I'm not going to say "I changed your adult diapers for 9 months you should be grateful".


Especially after reading this, go back home and go back to school and be thankful that your parents want you to be better and educated with your life. There are plenty of parents who really don't care, but the fact that your parents didn't kick you out when you were 14 shows that they do care.

Rekrul's advice has always been not to follow him, it's a lot more work than you think it is. It's a lot more luck than you think it is. It's clearly a lot more dedication than you are willing to put in.


I'm not the OP FYI

Show nested quote +
@crazeman

There is a difference between being grateful and being obliged, I think you're referring to the latter. Personally, I'd try to put myself in my parents prespective. Would I be happy if my child grew up into an ungrateful bastard after I raised him/ her for 18+ years? I think not.


I guess you're right about being gateful and obliged, but grateful for your mom carrying you in the womb for 9 months? I see it as more as "obliged" as soon as she decided to do it.

I think arguing over what we owe our parents is kinda OT; that would be a giant derailing argument... I for one would question what we "owe" to parents necessarily or what we "ought to be grateful for" and what that is really saying... but I don't think this is the place for that. I think this blog is about what's best for this guy... if he looks out for himself, I think that's best for him. If he puts some... effort towards "being grateful" or "paying back what's owed" to his parents, then that's potentially a sacrifice as opposed to a gain for him--it's not the right way to look at things to help him, unless you mean spiritually or something. I mean, you want him to get good karma or go to heaven or feel happier through treating his parents "right", then make the persuasive argument for it and maybe he will indeed have a better life.

Otherwise, I think the topic is about what this guy should do, i.e. go to school, live with friends, make up with his parents--for himself, not for them... not because "they're his parents", not because "they made him", not because "they paid for him for 18 years,"... etc. but because it's best for him, whatever that may be...

I'm not saying it's wrong to change the direction of the discussion cos its just a blog but I'm just wanting to make sure we are doing what's best for OP and not delving into theoretical arguments about morality and how children should treat parents etc. unless it's really what the OP needs.
my mojo's so dope.
Happy.fairytail
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States327 Posts
November 04 2010 13:26 GMT
#49
On November 04 2010 12:01 Scorcher2k wrote:
Yet another person saying... Go back home and go to school. No matter what you end up doing in the end you will always have something to fall back on. Especially if you want a family, you want a good job because stressing over money on top of stressing over everything else is harrrrd.

TLDR: Put aside your own thoughts, feelings, and stubborness and listen to your parents and fellow TL members. Get your fucking ass back in school!


Yep, quoted for truth.

That being said, I always listen to Steve Jobs' commencement speech for inspiration. However, he dropped out for concern and care for his parents, not out of bitterness for their overbearing attitude.
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