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[BlizzCon 2010] The Emperor and I: Meeting BoxeR

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Peanutsc
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States277 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 21:20:42
October 25 2010 22:47 GMT
#1
"Who is this Lim Yo-Hwan person again?"

"Well, Mom, you know how I told you about this computer game StarCraft being a professional sport in Korea? Lim Yo-Hwan is sort of the Michael Jordan of StarCraft, if Michael Jordan had also helped found basketball itself."

"Yo-Hwan ... his parents must have been religious."

"... I guess so, Mom."
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Does any native Korean speaker know what she meant? I didn't ask and google translate isn't helping.

EDIT: Thanks dinki and pubbanana for revealing that Yo-Hwan is (most likely?) related to the Korean transliteration of the Jewish pronunciation of the biblical name John!


About a week before BlizzCon, I was talking on the phone with my mom, a Korean immigrant, after she said she'd help me translate a short speech I wanted to give to the Terran Emperor himself on the off-chance that I'd be able to attract his attention at the con. If everything else about BlizzCon failed - if I couldn't find a place to crash near the event, if I didn't get to see any SC2 tournament games, if I couldn't find any friends to hang out with - I knew that just being able to say these four sentences to BoxeR would make the entire trip worth it and then some. We spent almost an hour hammering out the translation, since according to Mom the stuff I wanted to say to him "weren't things Korean people talk about usually."

~~~~ 1 week later ~~~~~

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After the BoxeR vs. Fruitdealer showmatch, which was truly a set for the ages, fans swarmed the area in front of the stage right where I was sitting. Some of them were holding actual fruit high in the air and aiming for Kim Won-Gi, but the vast majority were clearly making a collective beeline for the Emperor. Tasteless, standing at the stage signing autographs, was almost trampled: "Wow, I should probably get out of here ... I was thinking 'are all these people coming to see me?'"

A half hour of exuberant waiting and jam-packed jostling later, my heart sped up to 200 BPM and lights began shining unusually brightly for me because I was one person away from being face-to-face with Lim Yo-Hwan himself. My phone's battery having run out, I'd made a deal with a gentleman named Skylar behind me that I'd take his picture with BoxeR if he'd do the same for me. I took one step forward and inhaled, holding my handwritten script in front of me for him to read along as I read it aloud.

"Lim Yo-Hwan!"

"요환시가 공군 StarCraft 팀 시작하는 것 처럼, 제가 이년전에 하버드 대학교에서 하버드 StarCraft 팀을 같이 시작했습니다.

나는 요환시에 StarCraft겜에 성공 때문에 한국사람 일 하는 것이 무척 자랑스럽습니다.

요환시가 프로 StarCraft 겜을 유명하게 만들어 줘서 대단이 감사합니다.

제생각에는, 요환시는 이 겜에 종말 유일한 선수고 앞으로 더욱 큰 성공과 빛나는 장래를 빕니다."

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Just like Yo-Hwan [more proper to use instead of "you"] started the Air Force StarCraft team, 2 years ago at Harvard University I helped start the Harvard StarCraft team.

Because of Yo-Hwan's accomplishments in StarCraft, I am extremely proud to be Korean.

For Yo-Hwan making professional StarCraft so famous, I am truly grateful.

I think [lit. "in my thoughts"] in this game Yo-Hwan is a very unique player and I wish him even greater success and a very bright future.


He smiled, I thought, but I couldn't focus on that or I would lose any semblance of self-control. My hands and voice shaking, I then opened my SC2 DVD case and offered the package to him with the data side of the DVD facing up. He asked me what my name was, and I gave him my Korean name (Chung Jeeyoung). While he was scribbling on my DVD, a Korean man with a TV camera gestured to me to lay down my script on the stage so he could aim his camera at it. I managed to somehow coordinate the placement of all of these structures and also ask for a picture, very aware of the mass of people behind me wishing they were in my shoes. BoxeR nodded, and I turned around, autograph/sign book held tightly in my hands below my chin, and smiled for the camera, trying not to realize that Lim Yo-Hwan's face was 2 inches away from the side of my head.

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The Klazart Dedication
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For those of you who might not know, Klazart used to be a very prolific and popular (and infamous) SCBW youtube commentator for the Korean pro scene (his youtube channel). He is known colloquially as the Godfather of youtube commentators because he was the original inspiration for many commentators to start their activities and the community that formed around his work was the core constituency for the site SC2GG, where I used to be head staff.

Klazart has been a mentor and friend to me since summer of 2008 when I first went to Korea and "discovered" the pro scene and the international fan scene. I think he more than any other single person was most responsible for inspiring me to join the international scene as a journalist, site mod, and (for a short time), commentator. Although he is no longer active as a commentator, I respect him very much for his intelligence, passion, accomplishments (mostly outside of SC), and unique perspective on life/StarCraft. That's why the picture is dedicated to him, since I know he was a big BoxeR fan and would've loved to have met him.


The picture taken, I turned around and thanked him again in Korean and made haste towards the rows of plastic chairs away from the crush of bodies. I heard someone calling my Korean name from behind me, so I turned around and saw ... the guy holding the TV camera. He explained that he was making a documentary about BoxeR and wanted to ask me a couple questions. Still unbelievably high from fulfilling my ultimate BlizzCon goal, I agreed enthusiastically and found myself staring into a big lens about 3 feet in front of my face.

He asked me my name, and then how I knew about Korean Starcraft. I explained that I'd attended an international study abroad program in Seoul 2 years ago and watched a ton of live pro StarCraft games, and then after that had returned to college and (among other things) helped found the StarCraft team. He then asked me what I meant by saying that BoxeR's success made me "proud to be Korean." In halting Korean and then (at his insistence) in English, I explained.

"I'm Korean-American - I was born here in the US. When I was little, people would ask me 'Are you Chinese? Are you Japanese?' and I would say 'No, I'm [ethnically] Korean.' They didn't know what that was. But look at all of this!" I flung my arms out to gesture behind me, to the RTS stage and its still-massive fan crowd. "Everyone here knows Korea! Korea is number 1! That's why StarCraft makes me proud to be Korean."

We exchanged contact information and I finally left to go back to the hotel room and get ready for the TL party. Still in a daze, I missed the turn in the lobby of the Marriott for the elevators and almost didn't remember the right room number, but I did actually make it. I opened my SC2 DVD case and stared at the elegant black curves on shining silver. The readability of the data on the DVD had been sacrificed, but for a noble cause. Just as the bits and bytes encoded on its underside only contained an echo and a promise of the true nature of a living game, BoxeR's signature was just a faint carrier of a noble and ferocious spirit, but it's enough to haunt my thoughts and dreams for a lifetime of StarCraft glory.

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"You only get one life on this earth, Tasteless, and if you're not spending the majority of it playing StarCraft, I would argue that it might be wasted." "I couldn't agree more, Artosis."
Nayru
Profile Joined April 2010
United States87 Posts
October 25 2010 22:58 GMT
#2
Pretty cool!
White-Ra: "I miss reaver, he so stupid but he kill 20 SCV!"
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
October 25 2010 23:01 GMT
#3
nicely done
fuck lag
Rent-A-Hero
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States137 Posts
October 25 2010 23:10 GMT
#4
I don't know if you remember but you let me borrow your pen so he could sign my BlizzCon program and then you took our picture together with my phone.

Thank you so much for helping me! : )
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 25 2010 23:14 GMT
#5
Very nice ^^
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
October 25 2010 23:17 GMT
#6
Interesting story, marred only by the overt nationalism. Aren't you supposed to say you're proud to be American?
Peanutsc
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States277 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-25 23:26:07
October 25 2010 23:25 GMT
#7
On October 26 2010 08:17 gen.Sun wrote:
Interesting story, marred only by the overt nationalism. Aren't you supposed to say you're proud to be American?


When I said "Korean" in my speech and stuff, I was referring to being ethnically Korean. Of course I'm proud to be American and I consider myself American, but the point I wanted to make was that Korean professional StarCraft (and, within that, BoxeR) has had a profound influence on the way I view my ethnic heritage.
"You only get one life on this earth, Tasteless, and if you're not spending the majority of it playing StarCraft, I would argue that it might be wasted." "I couldn't agree more, Artosis."
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
October 25 2010 23:50 GMT
#8
epic win
jaedong imba
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
October 26 2010 00:25 GMT
#9
On October 26 2010 08:50 slappy wrote:
epic win


It must have been great! awsome retelling!
in The Kong line forever
dinki0825
Profile Joined June 2010
United States238 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 00:41:02
October 26 2010 00:39 GMT
#10
On October 26 2010 07:47 Peanutsc wrote:
"Yo-Hwan ... his parents must have been religious."
"... I guess so, Mom."
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Does any native Korean speaker know what she meant? I didn't ask and google translate isn't helping.

The biblical figure John is pronounced Yo-han in Korean (gotta note though, boxer's name is Yo-hwan which probably means something else and not based on John like your mom assumed after hearing his name first time).
So Jonah would be pronounced Yo-nah, Jonathan would be Yo-nadan, so on and so forth. I think Korean pronunciation of biblical figures is based on Jewish pronunciation (pretty much replace j with a y).
pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
October 26 2010 02:06 GMT
#11
Remember how Boxer's old alias was WoodJohn? His family name means "forest" (or woods) and Yo-hwan sounds kinda sorta like Yo-han from the Bible. That's where the alias came from
Wachet, stehet im Glauben, seid männlich und seid stark.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
October 26 2010 03:08 GMT
#12
A very nice write up indeed. Thanks for sharing your story :D
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
October 26 2010 04:37 GMT
#13
Very cool story. I'm glad you got to pull off what you set out to do, given the effort you've invested into the community.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Peanutsc
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States277 Posts
October 26 2010 05:07 GMT
#14
@dinki and pubbanana: thanks for shedding some light on my mom's comment!
"You only get one life on this earth, Tasteless, and if you're not spending the majority of it playing StarCraft, I would argue that it might be wasted." "I couldn't agree more, Artosis."
syst
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
United States247 Posts
November 01 2010 19:18 GMT
#15
On October 26 2010 08:17 gen.Sun wrote:
Interesting story, marred only by the overt nationalism. Aren't you supposed to say you're proud to be American?


Don't even bother defending yourself from this kind of crap. Some people have no sense of what it means to carry a multinational identity. I thought your sense of nationality was the greatest aspect of this story. It was not "marred" by it at all.

I loved this. Thank you for sharing!
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
November 01 2010 20:04 GMT
#16
Most inspiring and well written!

Don't really get the Klazart tribute though!
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
November 01 2010 20:11 GMT
#17
What a great experience, I am extremely jealous! Also getting the sig on the disc was a really good idea
Peanutsc
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States277 Posts
November 01 2010 20:44 GMT
#18
@syst: I'm really glad you liked that part of the story!

@Thrill: Thank you! I think I'll add something in a spoiler about the Klazart tribute. I didn't really have time to go into it when I first wrote it.
"You only get one life on this earth, Tasteless, and if you're not spending the majority of it playing StarCraft, I would argue that it might be wasted." "I couldn't agree more, Artosis."
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19047 Posts
November 01 2010 21:19 GMT
#19
Wait...that picture confuses me...it says For Klazart...but you're Peanut, and is that Mike Morhaime? And a notepad?

Please tell it's filler so my head won't explode ><
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Peanutsc
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States277 Posts
November 01 2010 21:21 GMT
#20
See spoiler about the Klazart dedication.

Dustin Browder's in the background - I think BoxeR was taking pictures with him before he stopped to sign autographs.
"You only get one life on this earth, Tasteless, and if you're not spending the majority of it playing StarCraft, I would argue that it might be wasted." "I couldn't agree more, Artosis."
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