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Hong Kong20321 Posts
wow 90 USD. pretty steep price for a keyboard D:
but i've never used a mechanical keyboard before i bet its so cool.
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How is it for gaming? i.e holding down buttons for a long period of time and spamming. 
I honestly have no idea about mechanical keyboards, but for some reason I like the clicking sound. o.o
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It's honestly giving me an aneurysm trying to decide which switch I want. If Starcraft was the only game I played it would be easy, but I type all day and play FPS games quite often too. So many conflicting options and I can't even tell which fits me better because I have to buy it to see.
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I very recently experienced problems with "ghosting" and am looking for a new keyboard with 6-key rollover, that guide was excellent. Just to clarify, if I would get one with NKRL that means I can press as many as required, right?
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On October 14 2010 01:58 leetchaos wrote:
It's honestly giving me an aneurysm trying to decide which switch I want. If Starcraft was the only game I played it would be easy, but I type all day and play FPS games quite often too. So many conflicting options and I can't even tell which fits me better because I have to buy it to see.
I would suggest brown switches for all around gaming and use. Black switches would be more for FPS because you would be pressing down all the way anyways, and Blues are more for typing and RTS spamming.
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On October 14 2010 02:02 kuresuti wrote:
I very recently experienced problems with "ghosting" and am looking for a new keyboard with 6-key rollover, that guide was excellent. Just to clarify, if I would get one with NKRL that means I can press as many as required, right?
Yes, with PS2 connector. I think the max for USB is 6 keys + 4 modifiers.
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ps2 connector is so awesome
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On October 14 2010 02:02 kuresuti wrote:
I very recently experienced problems with "ghosting" and am looking for a new keyboard with 6-key rollover, that guide was excellent. Just to clarify, if I would get one with NKRL that means I can press as many as required, right?
You have 6 fingers? on your left or right hand?
On October 14 2010 02:07 SayaSP wrote:
ps2 connector is so awesome
except you can't hot plug it without causing some dmg to the keyboard =p
On October 14 2010 02:05 john7kfc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 02:02 kuresuti wrote:
I very recently experienced problems with "ghosting" and am looking for a new keyboard with 6-key rollover, that guide was excellent. Just to clarify, if I would get one with NKRL that means I can press as many as required, right? Yes, with PS2 connector. I think the max for USB is 6 keys + 2 modifiers.
It's actually 6+4 mods
Cheap keyboards generally are 4+2 but hell they cost 10 bucks and work. They also generally use common key holds so 4+2 isn't guaranteed for the whole keyboard. Maybe only the left side or in clusters around the keyboard that make sense.
short of being a stenographer or using a brail keyboard who types in cords very few people more full nkro
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I want to play Stepmania with six panels >.<
EDIT: I think I have a cap of 3 keys right now, and it doesn't work to play with at all.
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On October 14 2010 02:21 semantics wrote:
Cheap keyboards generally are 4+2 but hell they cost 10 bucks and work. They also generally use common key holds so 4+2 isn't guaranteed for the whole keyboard. Maybe only the left side or in clusters around the keyboard that make sense.
short of being a stenographer or using a brail keyboard who types in cords very few people more full nkro
I've used cheap keyboards that blocked some fairly common key combos used in Counter Strike and it was very annoying. Obviously mechanical keyboards are not cheap, but none of the retailers I've seen give any good info about whether or not their Non-NKRO boards are designed with games that are heavy on the left side in mind. It's not really worth the risk (or %15 price difference) to me on an already expensive keyboard to find out down the road I can't do such-and-such combo that a game needs.
Just my thoughts.
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On October 14 2010 02:47 leetchaos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 02:21 semantics wrote:
Cheap keyboards generally are 4+2 but hell they cost 10 bucks and work. They also generally use common key holds so 4+2 isn't guaranteed for the whole keyboard. Maybe only the left side or in clusters around the keyboard that make sense.
short of being a stenographer or using a brail keyboard who types in cords very few people more full nkro I've used cheap keyboards that blocked some fairly common key combos used in Counter Strike and it was very annoying. Obviously mechanical keyboards are not cheap, but none of the retailers I've seen give any good info about whether or not their Non-NKRO boards are designed with games that are heavy on the left side in mind. It's not really worth the risk (or %15 price difference) to me on an already expensive keyboard to find out down the road I can't do such-and-such combo that a game needs. Just my thoughts.
I agree.
I mostly play SC so NKRO is not important to me. But FYI: the Rosewill RK-9000 has NKRO.
On October 14 2010 02:29 kuresuti wrote:
I want to play Stepmania with six panels >.<
EDIT: I think I have a cap of 3 keys right now, and it doesn't work to play with at all.
Get one with NKRO for sure.
On October 14 2010 02:21 semantics wrote:
It's actually 6+4 mods
Fixed. Thanks.
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I've got a 7G and I'm looking to get a keyboard with MX browns instead. Would you say that a Majestouch would be a good choice?
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A friend of my is going nutz over the razor mech keyboard. I use cheep keyboard because I break them when I hulk-rage(1-2 times a year) which would suck on a $90 keyboard designed to last 3-5 years minimum.
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On October 14 2010 05:50 Thrawn1324 wrote:
A friend of my is going nutz over the razor mech keyboard. I use cheep keyboard because I break them when I hulk-rage(1-2 times a year) which would suck on a $90 keyboard designed to last 3-5 years minimum.
More like 15-20 years. :p
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That keyboard is really good, it's the equivalent to the Filco Majestouch NKRO board in all but name and in the way the letters are printed on the keys. You could even use the replacement keys from elitekeyboards if you wanted the different colored escape key or wasd keys.
So you basically got the $140 filco board for half price.
If they ever bring down the price to $84 on newegg.ca I know I am going to impulse buy it. It's 99 right now, and I know it's only $15 but with the dollar being near parity it angers me
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I just bought a filco majestouch with brown switches. It's awesome!
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at $85 you are better off with something like a Filco or Majestouch (or even a venerable Cherry G80)
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On October 14 2010 05:38 gillon wrote:
I've got a 7G and I'm looking to get a keyboard with MX browns instead. Would you say that a Majestouch would be a good choice?
Yup, this would be my choice if it was in stock: Majestouch Tactile Touch
On October 14 2010 05:50 Thrawn1324 wrote:
A friend of my is going nutz over the razor mech keyboard. I use cheep keyboard because I break them when I hulk-rage(1-2 times a year) which would suck on a $90 keyboard designed to last 3-5 years minimum.
If you are of the hulk rage tendency, I would shy away from mech keyboards. They are durable but not hulk rage durable. The razer mech keyboard uses the same switch as the one I bought AFAIK.
On October 14 2010 07:21 FragKrag wrote:
at $85 you are better off with something like a Filco or Majestouch (or even a venerable Cherry G80)
There was a coupon that made it $75. Compared to the Flico equivalent:Majestouch Tactile Click NKRO it was a $60 savings. Hard to pass up for a cheapo like me. 
The Cherry G80-3000 looks interesting actually. Do you know where/if they are available in US?
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On October 14 2010 07:21 FragKrag wrote:
at $85 you are better off with something like a Filco or Majestouch (or even a venerable Cherry G80)
Why? This is a NKRO costar board, it's virtually identical to the most expensive Filco
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lol like the guy said , the IBM keyboards added $250 to the price of a 286t back in the day , $500 adjusted for inflation
there is no way a modern keyboard can compete with the quality of a model M
another example : filco uses the cheapest pad printing whilst model m uses ink injection
it's all at that forum link you posted buddy
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If I were going to drop 90 bucks on a mechanical I'd make sure it has black switches not the cherry brown ones =\
SteelSeries 6gv2 or 7g for brown/black ones tho
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On October 14 2010 07:49 floor exercise wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 07:21 FragKrag wrote:
at $85 you are better off with something like a Filco or Majestouch (or even a venerable Cherry G80) Why? This is a NKRO costar board, it's virtually identical to the most expensive Filco
I meant a Das :O
i get those things mixed up 
cherry keyboards are definitely available in the US. Just gotta do some searching.
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i use a cherry g80-3000 which was like 70 bucks i'm pretty sure
i have lans at my house like every other week with a ton of nerds who use my computer/keyboard and there has been a 100% consensus that its the greatest keyboard they've ever used, super responsive blah blah blah
if you're gonna play even semi competitively, get yourself a good mech keyboard. i spend 120$ on shoes for running, so comparatively..
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Are there retail stores that have mechanical keyboards in stock? I'm tempted to buy the non-NKRO (I don't push that many keys at once) one from Majestouch that has brown switches. Although I want to see how loud it'd be and how it feels first if possible.
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Whats a cheap mechanical keyboard? I'm looking at getting one, but not really wanting to spend 100+ on a keyboard. Any advice as to which keyboard I should get that is nice but not pricey?
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On October 14 2010 12:25 Monoxide wrote:
Whats a cheap mechanical keyboard? I'm looking at getting one, but not really wanting to spend 100+ on a keyboard. Any advice as to which keyboard I should get that is nice but not pricey?
I think the Rosewill one mentioned in this thread is one of the cheaper ones at around 75 after discounts, but if you're going to invest in a mechanical keyboard, you're probably going to have to pay good money.
Nothing wrong with a rubber dome keyboard if you're trying to keep things cheap, though.
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On October 14 2010 12:34 DeckOneBell wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 12:25 Monoxide wrote:
Whats a cheap mechanical keyboard? I'm looking at getting one, but not really wanting to spend 100+ on a keyboard. Any advice as to which keyboard I should get that is nice but not pricey? I think the Rosewill one mentioned in this thread is one of the cheaper ones at around 75 after discounts, but if you're going to invest in a mechanical keyboard, you're probably going to have to pay good money. Nothing wrong with a rubber dome keyboard if you're trying to keep things cheap, though.
The one that just came out at razer is a decent price ~ 79 I think. Is that one any good?
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On October 14 2010 12:47 Monoxide wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 12:34 DeckOneBell wrote:On October 14 2010 12:25 Monoxide wrote:
Whats a cheap mechanical keyboard? I'm looking at getting one, but not really wanting to spend 100+ on a keyboard. Any advice as to which keyboard I should get that is nice but not pricey? I think the Rosewill one mentioned in this thread is one of the cheaper ones at around 75 after discounts, but if you're going to invest in a mechanical keyboard, you're probably going to have to pay good money. Nothing wrong with a rubber dome keyboard if you're trying to keep things cheap, though. The one that just came out at razer is a decent price ~ 79 I think. Is that one any good?
I heard that one had Cherry MX blue switches, and checking the website, it supposedly does, I assume therefore, that it'd be quite good? The difference should be in build quality, and I don't know how quality the construction on the Razer Black Widow is.
Personally not a fan of the macro keys and funny business, but it looks solid. I haven't bothered to find reviews.
EDIT: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158928
Also I'm looking for a review comparing this to a filco, also hopefully a das, though I suppose that's aimed more at typists than gamers.
MORE EDITS: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20014031-1.html
"According to Razer, it designed the BlackWidow's key architecture to deliver half the throw action of what you'll find on other mechanical keyboards, such as the Das Keyboard or the Matias TactilePro 3.0, giving you faster key presses during gameplay."
Honestly, I'm suspicious of the price tag, but so far, looks good? Not very many reviews running around, and a lot of them seem to be reviews that haven't dealt with a mechanical keyboard before.
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Does anyone know what the SteelSeries 6GV2 switches are? The 7G ones are black, but i'm not sure what the 6g ones are.
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On October 14 2010 14:27 DeckOneBell wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 12:47 Monoxide wrote:On October 14 2010 12:34 DeckOneBell wrote:On October 14 2010 12:25 Monoxide wrote:
Whats a cheap mechanical keyboard? I'm looking at getting one, but not really wanting to spend 100+ on a keyboard. Any advice as to which keyboard I should get that is nice but not pricey? I think the Rosewill one mentioned in this thread is one of the cheaper ones at around 75 after discounts, but if you're going to invest in a mechanical keyboard, you're probably going to have to pay good money. Nothing wrong with a rubber dome keyboard if you're trying to keep things cheap, though. The one that just came out at razer is a decent price ~ 79 I think. Is that one any good? I heard that one had Cherry MX blue switches, and checking the website, it supposedly does, I assume therefore, that it'd be quite good? The difference should be in build quality, and I don't know how quality the construction on the Razer Black Widow is. Personally not a fan of the macro keys and funny business, but it looks solid. I haven't bothered to find reviews. EDIT: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158928Also I'm looking for a review comparing this to a filco, also hopefully a das, though I suppose that's aimed more at typists than gamers. MORE EDITS: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20014031-1.html"According to Razer, it designed the BlackWidow's key architecture to deliver half the throw action of what you'll find on other mechanical keyboards, such as the Das Keyboard or the Matias TactilePro 3.0, giving you faster key presses during gameplay." Honestly, I'm suspicious of the price tag, but so far, looks good? Not very many reviews running around, and a lot of them seem to be reviews that haven't dealt with a mechanical keyboard before.
They don't use MX cherry they use a weird ALPS/ML cherry from photos I've seen. I'm tired of the mechanical keyboards for gaming fad. The benefit of them is totally nullified in fps game play it's somewhat okay in rts gameplay. But when you play in a rts game you're going to bottom out the keys meaning the benefit of mechanical keyboard in speed of typing is moot esp if you're using cherries. Mechanical are great for typing that is it. You can hear frutidealer and boxer from those camera because they are bottoming out and flico with it's cheap keys and backplate makes loud clacks.
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Mechanical keyboards are awesome, except for the fact that they're terrible if you have a roomate...
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Deciding between a Steelseries 6gv2 or a majestouch with blue cherries.
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