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ArbAttack
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada198 Posts
September 24 2010 23:38 GMT
#1


So I’m working this database/finance/event planning co-op job matched through the University’s own job hunt system, and the position qualification requirements went something along the lines of: senior (3 or 4th year student) position, mastery/extensive experience of Access and Excel with strong SQL knowledge, solid background in accounting and economic principles, event planning/management skills and experience required, along with the softer stuff i.e., communication/teamwork/etc. skills. Over 200 students applied for the position and 12 went in for the first interview, and then 3 for the second interview, most of them 3rd and 4th year students. The pay is decent for a 2nd year student, at $17.50/hour. Initially I had no hope of getting the position, but as luck would have it, I landed the job. Needless to say, I had high hopes for the position to further my skills/knowledge while getting paid decent money doing it. How very naive had I been?

Now, I’ve been working this shitfucking assrape of a job in this shithole of an office for about a month now (started late August), and I’ve grown to hate my life more than just a little. I don’t even know where to start. I guess I’ll first say that this job is everything I envisioned it to be, in the complete opposite direction; I could have done this job when I was in grade 8, seriously, no joke/exaggeration here. I received an “Excellent” rating on my previous work term because I work hard, I’m usually fantastic with people and know to do my share of brown nosing. I also accept the fact that all co-op jobs are entry level and suck, therefore involves a certain amount of administrative/labour tasks, so I wouldn’t think I’m a bad employee with completely unrealistic expectations. However, this job... every day by 2pm, my stress ball no longer expands correctly because I squeeze it so much and I just want to smash someone’s face in.

First of all, I work with some of the most unbelievably backward rednecks I’ve ever met; the kind with low education and displays very little respect for their inferiors (boss has a bachelors in Economics from a shitty university; supervisor has some random certificate from a community college). Everyone else in the office is female. Yah, I’m such a pimp. They’re all at least 35+, with the average age at around 45. Not that I’m discriminatory towards older people or a sexist, this fact just compounds my total isolation is all.

First day of work, my boss dumped four 2000+ row excel databases on my supervisor who dumped them onto me. Shit rolls downhill right? I’m the co-op student, so no biggie. Had to go in, delete duplicates, sum some rows, and merge everything together – basic, basic cell manipulation stuff. 8 hours of squinting my already too-small Asian eyes at this tiny screen really makes me go more than a little crazy. I was pretty disappointed there and then, I had expected 1-2 weeks of training as in my previous work term to learn more about SQL/whatever database system they used, and finally started to gain a good idea of what my next 4 months would be like. Nothing changed much the first week, I was just my boss’s excel bitch and I guess although I was disappointed, I still got to brush up on my excel short-cuts and could review database concepts during my down time (which I create for myself... by saving time using macros/shortcuts, because every time I finish and ask for more work I just get hammered by another 2000+ row database).

As times progressed, things took a turn for the worse as well. No need to rant about any more trivial things, so in summary, I acquired some new responsibilities gradually throughout the next few weeks; I became the MS Suite bitch, the coffee bitch, the errands bitch, the mail bitch, the paperwork bitch, the office labour bitch, data input bitch, and finally, everyone just treated me like their bitch. To put it another way, I’m essentially white-collar slave labour; a large portion of the office just dumps whatever boring and meaningless shit they don’t want to do on me. To paint an accurate picture of how truly fucking shitty my situation is consider what I did all day today. There’s this young female secretary from another department down the hall, and her small department shares the kitchenette with us. What did she do to make me think she’s a complete fucking tool? Nothing less than putting her thermos in the microwave of course. I shit you not, I did not make this up, she fucking put her THERMOS in the fucking MICROWAVE. Seriously, you’re 20 something… seriously?!!! Shit went down at the office that day, and guess who had to clean up putrid burning plastic after her? Fuck my life. But wait, there’s more. She had to make 300+ name tags for 4 separate events, and since this has been a slow week in terms of my workload my boss told her that I would be available to help. So she “asked for my help” which directly translates to, “do that gay shit for me”. I slaved 7 hours today cutting/stuffing labels into plastic sleeves and sorting the tags. Oh and this just makes me seriously consider just punching her in the face and quitting - she has ZERO idea of how to use even Word/Excel, and prints the names onto labels from the order of her data input which was not really in any logical order, then without sorting them in excel or letting me know beforehand, printed them and told me to sort them into particular groups in ALPHABETICAL order. What. The. Fuck. Why, the fuck, couldn’t that dumb bitch use the sort function in Excel BEFORE printing is fucking beyond me. What should have been a 1 hour job turned into a 7 hour one with me playing the memory cards game with a billion different name tags in random order. I even offered to re-sort the data and re-print so I could save like 5 hours of time, but she declines, “Nah… just do them this way I don’t want to print again.” I walked by her office twice today on my washroom break and lunch, and she was fucking talking on the phone and painting her nails on the occasions. If only she was blonde, then I don’t know how more stereotypical she could be. Saddest thing is, my supervisor, my boss, my boss’s boss, the big boss on the floor, and everyone else in the office know exactly what goes down but couldn’t give less of a fuck. Yah, just leave all the shitty work to the quiet Asian dude – careful though, he might just stab you in the FACE one day.
So then when she tried to get me to work faster after lunch, “hurry up I need these done before the end of the day”, I just fucking lost it. I told her… nvm. There’s no point lying to myself and the internet. I did nothing. I said nothing back. I took it like a little bitch up my ass and replied, “sure thing” and got the name tags done. But in all honesty, I feared for both mine and her well-being a little amidst of it all, when I made a conscious effort to stop my hand as my fist moved a little aimed at her face.
If this was a real job after graduation I would never take this kind of shit from anyone. I know it’s beneficial to be easy-going, but also firm and strong when someone tries to bully you so they don’t fuck with you again in the future. But this is my co-op job, I’m just a meager student amidst millions of others and I need a good job evaluation at the end, and quitting isn’t an option. These fuckers know that, and they most likely abuse every co-op student this way as they come through. Honestly, alongside the shitty workload, it’d be tons better even if they made any effort to treat the co-op students like human beings on the surface. Basic things like saying please, thank you, and forming demands in the form “could you…” would help the morale by light years, but nooooooooooo, these uncultured rednecks just outright treat the co-op student like their own slaving bitch, all day and every day.

At the end of the day, my only comfort is to think over and over to myself, “If I don’t go through this kind of shit now, I’d probably have to go through it later anyway when I graduate; with experience, I am working towards a better future. The younger I have to deal with shit, the better.”
Sorry for the long rant, I just got home after working overtime (no pay, surprise surprise) doing a 20 page data input – again, someone else’s work so I’m just about ready to strangle something. Fuck my life, I’m going on bnet east to rape some random noobs and bm as hard as I can during/after the game with a few beers, because I can’t even get pot anymore since my both of my dealers got busted/stopped chopping.

Fuck my life. The future better be better than this shit.


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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
September 24 2010 23:44 GMT
#2
Just keep that $17.50 / hr in your head.
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crayhasissues
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States682 Posts
September 24 2010 23:46 GMT
#3
I feel you man. It will probably get better in the future once you get some experience under your belt. I've seen office politics, and its amazing what some people can get away with.

You sound like you are talented enough to be running those drones in a few years, so you better get your macro skills up to par
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TunaFishyMe
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada150 Posts
September 24 2010 23:50 GMT
#4
All entry jobs are the same as you said. They hire you for cheap labor. Most places get reimbursed by the government for hiring a student. Its dirt cheap. Also, no benefits or anything required. You don't know shit, why would they give you anything really important to do? Everywhere starts like that.

What you need to do is to look around to see the lifestyle of the higher up guys. Then you will know if you want to be there in the future or not. If not, move out fast, its just a co-op, thats what they are for.
I worked at AMD for my co-op. I was pumped, but I ended up doing a lot of work that seemed meaningless. I saw the value I added but I looked aorund and knew I didn't want to be here. So I changed my career goals and now I'm where I think I want to be.
LeafHouse
Profile Joined June 2007
United States185 Posts
September 25 2010 00:04 GMT
#5
On September 25 2010 08:38 ArbAttack wrote:


...the position qualification requirements went something along the lines of: senior (3 or 4th year student) position, mastery/extensive experience of Access and Excel with strong SQL knowledge, solid background in accounting and economic principles, event planning/management skills and experience required, along with the softer stuff i.e., communication/teamwork/etc. skills. Over 200 students applied for the position and 12 went in for the first interview, and then 3 for the second interview, most of them 3rd and 4th year students.




I've been looking for some good work for a few months and every single interview I've had sounds like your experience. I can't believe how competitive everything is... and when I finally do land a job I'm going to be immediately indebted to it, just because it was so hard to find it.

How long do you have to stay at this place?



...it’d be tons better even if they made any effort to treat the co-op students like human beings on the surface. Basic things like saying please, thank you, and forming demands in the form “could you…” would help the morale by light years



You're so right. Being polite is a big deal.

Good luck man.
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
September 25 2010 00:15 GMT
#6
Holy crap. I'm sure as heck not looking forward to that part of my life...which is coming way way way too soon. Still just a swamped college student

But yeah, good luck man.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
September 25 2010 00:53 GMT
#7
Sounds pretty bad. Search for another job so you can quit this one or start working way more slowly so you don't have to do as much?
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
September 25 2010 02:39 GMT
#8
Lol at the bitch refusing to print it again
But getting paid 17.5 $ / hr to sort labels is not that bad. Indeed if you had plan to do this job to learn stuffs it sucks to have to sort labels, but I would have enjoyed that kind of job when I was a student. I mean my classmates were working at McDonalds at night for like 11$ / hour ?
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lvatural
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States347 Posts
September 25 2010 04:01 GMT
#9
Yeah...I had a job similar to yours a couple years ago...mind numbing excel but paid $15/hr. But fortunately when I went to my boss and asked for some extra responsibility related to my interests (finance), he was amenable to my request and started giving me independent projects (eg. portfolio analysis). A lot of times with these low end jobs, they don't really expect much from you. But most employers will generally jump on the opportunity to pull in greater value than the $XX/hr that they pay for your services (at least in my experience).

Just wondering...did you have any idea what you would be doing when you went in? Or were they purposefully ambiguous or outright lie to you when you asked them about your future job responsibilities/work projects?
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-25 04:45:39
September 25 2010 04:42 GMT
#10
I have some advice to give you, since I graduated from UW as well (engineering). I loved all of my co-op jobs, except for my very first one.

1. You should always check cooprankings.com (I think it's merged to internshare.com now) to get some reviews. If there are none, ask your friends, and the co-op coordinator responsible for the company; that should paint you a decent picture.

2. Use the interview time wisely. It's not only the time for them to evaluate you, but also the time for you to evaluate them as well. Most people don't realize this until very late stages of their co-ops. Ask your interviewers about their average days, about the most challenging things they had ever done, your responsibilities, what you can get out of that job, etc. You can really tell the company culture by the employees that they send. If you like your interviewers, chances are, you'll like the job as well.

3. Evaluate your interview questions. Would those questions be able to separate good candidates from the bad ones. If not, then the company probably doesn't care too much about hiring.

At the end of the day, if you got <=1 offer in the first round, odds are you'll take whatever comes up next; but regardless, you should be careful when accepting an offer, because you are locked in for four months.

Now some suggestions to deal with your current situation:
1. Use the midterm interview with your field coordinator. Tell him/her about your experience, tell them how your responsibilities differ from what you had imagined given the job description.
2. Take it easy. While the tasks sound mundane, they aren't horrible in any way. Adjust your mentality and just think of it as a summer job (grocery, chapters, LCBO, etc.). The pay isn't horrible, so just relax and sit through the days. Get in at 9, book out at 5, enjoy the other 16 hours of your day.
3. If you are ambitious, ask for more work. Tell them what you are capable of and what you wish to do/learn. If they refuse, resort to 2.

Another thing about UW coops is that they are extremely arrogant (I was once like this too). Just something to keep in might: you might not even realize what you are doing could be considered conceited. I get this feeling from reading your blog since you belittle your boss because he's from a "shitty university" and your supervisor because he has a certificate from college. They might be treating you poorly because they think you feel you are better than them. Also, a community college grad is arguable better at churning out SQL queries than a university student, since they don't focus on SQL but rather the principles in database foundations and designs in universities.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
September 25 2010 04:57 GMT
#11
On September 25 2010 08:38 ArbAttack wrote:

Fuck my life. The future better be better than this shit.


Is that guaranteed? I don't think I'd be able to take that kind of exploitation without shooting someone.
ArbAttack
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada198 Posts
September 25 2010 05:09 GMT
#12
Thanks for all the replies and encouragements guys, words of comfort always brings more... comfort

And Cambium, that was the reply I had hoped for. I'll definitely take your advice into consideration regarding future co-op terms, and just pray the job market gets a bit better in 8 months when I have to do this all over again.

Thank again all, not much I can do to improve my situation so I'll just take it easy from now on.
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