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SpartiK1S
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States145 Posts
September 23 2010 22:28 GMT
#1
A time before God, a man works the corn fields of his clan. every day, he sees to the continuation of the crop, while looking out at the sea. his field is on a cliff near the ocean, and every day he sees the boats, moving, fishing. He yearns to be on a boat, having never experinced it, yet his clan expects his crops to be maintained. No one is starving for lack of fish, but he wants it, dreams of sailing off, fishing, living.

What is the man to do? Abandon his crop for the insects and jump off the cliff and into the darkness of a life spent fishing, or stand by his crop, and watch his dreams become ever more distant, with age?

That is the story, and that is the question.

"Why is it so cold and lonely?"-Nal_Ra
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
September 23 2010 22:32 GMT
#2
Abandon his crop and go fish. That is the way of life.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
September 23 2010 22:36 GMT
#3
stay if he mindlessly obeys, however if he wants true happines he will go...he should go follow his dreams...in the long run the crops do not matter
The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
September 23 2010 22:43 GMT
#4
go fishing during off seasons
2010 worldcup!! corea fighting!!!
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 23:28:08
September 23 2010 23:27 GMT
#5
As corn is the top crop for subsidy payments, use the strategy Agriculture subsidy into Private Yacht.

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Nokarot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1410 Posts
September 23 2010 23:45 GMT
#6
In America? Keep farming crop until you have enough money to go to fishing school. Keep farming crop while you get a fishing degree and then spend a few months attempting to find a job. Once you find it, give your crops 2 weeks notice and ask for a letter of recommendation.

Later, hope that you actually loved fishing as much as you'd hope you would, otherwise you might just find yourself back at the farm. Or being a prostitute. Just make sure to pay back those loans.
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Laerties
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States361 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 00:09:16
September 24 2010 00:04 GMT
#7
The man should not abandon his crops to go fishing. He has a social obligation to maintain the fields. While the man may think fishing will be an enjoyable experience (and it may) he should learn to receive personal fulfillment from the betterment of his society and the helping of others. In my opinion, the most respectable and genuinely "good" thing a person can do is place the needs of a society and the greater good before his/her own.

Thoughts?
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 24 2010 00:32 GMT
#8
He should have a child to work the fields for him, then chase after his dream.
:)
palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
September 24 2010 00:48 GMT
#9
maintain the crop. it is your duty. if it fails, all is lost.
time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
Lysis
Profile Joined October 2009
United States147 Posts
September 24 2010 01:10 GMT
#10
On September 24 2010 09:04 Laerties wrote:
The man should not abandon his crops to go fishing. He has a social obligation to maintain the fields. While the man may think fishing will be an enjoyable experience (and it may) he should learn to receive personal fulfillment from the betterment of his society and the helping of others. In my opinion, the most respectable and genuinely "good" thing a person can do is place the needs of a society and the greater good before his/her own.

Thoughts?


However, in the market system, personal gain is the primary objective. People will go do what ever they want to do and the market will all even it out. Tradition-based systems such as the one in the story offer no self-fulfillment and just simply force people into the family or pre-appointed "role" that doesn't advance either society or the wants of the public. The clan can make other people harvest crops, this man can go out fishing if he so pleases.
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
September 24 2010 01:51 GMT
#11
On September 24 2010 09:04 Laerties wrote:
The man should not abandon his crops to go fishing. He has a social obligation to maintain the fields. While the man may think fishing will be an enjoyable experience (and it may) he should learn to receive personal fulfillment from the betterment of his society and the helping of others. In my opinion, the most respectable and genuinely "good" thing a person can do is place the needs of a society and the greater good before his/her own.

Thoughts?


He probably shouldn't leave if it means others will starve because of him. But blindly ignoring his own wishes to serve the community can't be right either. If everyone follows his example many of them will be miserable and they will make the rest unhappy too.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Laerties
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States361 Posts
September 24 2010 03:16 GMT
#12
On September 24 2010 10:10 Lysis wrote:
However, in the market system, personal gain is the primary objective. People will go do what ever they want to do and the market will all even it out. Tradition-based systems such as the one in the story offer no self-fulfillment and just simply force people into the family or pre-appointed "role" that doesn't advance either society or the wants of the public. The clan can make other people harvest crops, this man can go out fishing if he so pleases.


I was assuming that the man managing the crops was put there because he is needed and that the society agrees that his job is beneficial to the people. I don't think either of those assumptions are ridiculous to make and most jobs in what you call a "Tradition-based system", or what the rest of us might call a primitive society do in fact benefit the community as a whole. Hunter...Gatherer...builder etc... My opinion is that the man can achieve happiness and self-fulfillment by sacrificing his personal desires for the betterment of his society (which we should assume he is doing by performing his job).

So, I don't believe you are correct in saying that jobs similar to the one in the story offer no self-fulfillment, in-fact I think they have the potential to provide more happiness than desired jobs. It's all a matter of perspective.
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
September 24 2010 03:22 GMT
#13
On September 24 2010 09:04 Laerties wrote:
The man should not abandon his crops to go fishing. He has a social obligation to maintain the fields. While the man may think fishing will be an enjoyable experience (and it may) he should learn to receive personal fulfillment from the betterment of his society and the helping of others. In my opinion, the most respectable and genuinely "good" thing a person can do is place the needs of a society and the greater good before his/her own.

Thoughts?


nah
if you have to learn to receive fulfillment, you're doing it wrong.
other people can harvest the crops, go get 'em sailor.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Laerties
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States361 Posts
September 24 2010 03:26 GMT
#14
On September 24 2010 10:51 hypercube wrote:
He probably shouldn't leave if it means others will starve because of him. But blindly ignoring his own wishes to serve the community can't be right either. If everyone follows his example many of them will be miserable and they will make the rest unhappy too.


I think you missed my point that each member of the community can achieve happiness and self-fulfillment through the helping of others. I think it is fair to assume that the man tending the crops is benefiting his community by performing his job... I was asking your opinion on whether you thought it was possible to achieve happiness and self-fulfillment through the helping of others. It seems to me that you are disagreeing but you didn't explain your reasoning. Rather, you proceed to assume your opinion was correct in the next statement.
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
September 24 2010 05:34 GMT
#15
On September 24 2010 12:26 Laerties wrote:
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On September 24 2010 10:51 hypercube wrote:
He probably shouldn't leave if it means others will starve because of him. But blindly ignoring his own wishes to serve the community can't be right either. If everyone follows his example many of them will be miserable and they will make the rest unhappy too.


I think you missed my point that each member of the community can achieve happiness and self-fulfillment through the helping of others.


Yes, I disagree. Not everyone can find happiness in doing something they inherently dislike, even if it's helping others. I can't really give reasoning, to me this is just self-evident.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
September 24 2010 05:35 GMT
#16
http://rpo.library.utoronto.ca/poem/2191.html
this guy is a great example
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