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Galois
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 22:37:08
September 19 2010 22:33 GMT
#1
... from Calculus I.

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I was taking a practice test for the GRE-Math subject test and it threw me this curveball. I didn't know what to do. I was like hiding behind my chair in the library and shit. People were staring man. This shit scared me.


Even though I knew it didn't make any sense, I told myself that it was D because if I just pretend that x+t becomes x+x then it works out all nice and pretty-like to become D.

So the answer is apparently E according to Mathematica and the practice test answer key, but I have no clue how they got to it.

So clearly I'm forgetting something about the Fundamental Theorem... even though I went through the wikipedia page a little bit before posting here. I was going to do it on reddit but they won't let me make a new link for another hour because of some bullshit email verification crap.

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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 23:01:01
September 19 2010 22:36 GMT
#2
+ Show Spoiler +

Ok my usual method gives me BS since the integrand has an x in it, so try this
Bring the E^x out of the integral to get E^x * integral from 0 to x^2 of (E^t dt), which is E^x * (E^(x^2) - 1) = E^(x + x^2) - E^x. Derivative is (1+2x) * E^(x + x^2) - E^x. Plug in 1 to get 3*E^2 - E

... i think. Calculus was so long ago

EDIT: wtf the t did not disappear, let me fix this

EDIT 2: fixed
Translator:3
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 19 2010 22:42 GMT
#3
I thought you were a forge, I am disappoint
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Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 22:55:22
September 19 2010 22:54 GMT
#4
since e^x is independent with regards to t, move it outside. Then integrate e^t. Obviously it is e^t. Evaluating in those points, we get e^x¨2-1. All that must be multiplied with the e¨x we moved outside at the beginning. we get e¨(x¨2+x)-e¨x. Derive for x, don't forget inner derivate, and it should become (2x+1)e¨(x¨2+x)-e¨x. Evaluate for x=1. Sorry for potentially incorrect English.
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palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
September 19 2010 23:41 GMT
#5
On September 20 2010 07:42 Saechiis wrote:
I thought you were a forge, I am disappoint


"clearly I'm forge" fast expanding??!

ok disappoint but I'll take calculus too. as stated e^(x+t) = e^x*e^t and you can take e^x outside the integral and apply the fundamental theorum of calculus to get the derivative at 1
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Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
September 20 2010 00:58 GMT
#6
Wtf is everyone talking about.

Fundamental theorem of calculus part 1, look it up.

The derivative of an integral is the integrand itself.

Your answer is B
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palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
September 20 2010 01:01 GMT
#7
On September 20 2010 09:58 Rev0lution wrote:
Wtf is everyone talking about.

Fundamental theorem of calculus part 1, look it up.

The derivative of an integral is the integrand itself.

Your answer is B


you're taking the derivative with respect to x, not t
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jonnyp
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States415 Posts
September 20 2010 02:16 GMT
#8
Lol tricky bastards, didn't see that it was h-prime and not just plain old h xD. those test creator guys are evil thought it was B the whole time lol.
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
September 20 2010 02:58 GMT
#9
OK,

Here is what you need to do. Use Leibniz Rule. Take first the derivative of the function h wrt to x by applying Leibniz Theorem and then evaluate it at x=1. Mathematica is correct and the correct answer is (E).

Here is the link to wikipedia page on Leibniz Rule:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz_integral_rule

That's a single most important tool when dealing with some nasty integrals that contain parameters.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
September 20 2010 03:11 GMT
#10
On September 20 2010 07:54 Fwmeh wrote:
since e^x is independent with regards to t, move it outside. Then integrate e^t. Obviously it is e^t. Evaluating in those points, we get e^x¨2-1. All that must be multiplied with the e¨x we moved outside at the beginning. we get e¨(x¨2+x)-e¨x. Derive for x, don't forget inner derivate, and it should become (2x+1)e¨(x¨2+x)-e¨x. Evaluate for x=1. Sorry for potentially incorrect English.

When in doubt, use images:
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Galois
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 08:54:53
September 20 2010 08:51 GMT
#11
On September 20 2010 07:54 Fwmeh wrote:
since e^x is independent with regards to t, move it outside.


HAHA!

I knew it was something so simple! That's all I needed to see.


Oh man I feel really stupid right now. Lovely trick, playing on my preconceptions.


I love mathematics
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intrudor
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada446 Posts
September 20 2010 13:56 GMT
#12
sorry, cant help ya. just like 96% of the public, i suffer from severe mathophobia
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