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Nukes at high level?

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houck
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom102 Posts
July 23 2010 23:31 GMT
#1
Seeing as the beta has been down for awhile, I've been watching some youtube videos and live streams, but I never seem to find any nuke games. I remember David Kim used them during early beta, but after that I've not seen any usage of nukes.

Just wondering why that is? If their is videos out anyone wanna link me?

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"If I don't lose! I'll win!" - Trump
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
July 23 2010 23:35 GMT
#2
Abra Kadabra
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3917155/

Also search for TLO vs Nazgul ( I don't know where to find this anymore)
The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
July 23 2010 23:35 GMT
#3
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3917155/

(part 1 out of 4)

TLO's pretty well known for using nukes in his games.
ClanOverdosed
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
691 Posts
July 23 2010 23:39 GMT
#4
King of the Beta Spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +
TheLittleOne used a couple nukes against Tester, it didn't amount to much but it was there
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 23:48:38
July 23 2010 23:47 GMT
#5
They're easier to get in Sc2 than they were in BW but again landing them is a problem and will continue to be one. On top of that they don't do nearly as much damage so even on buildings u need like 2 or 3 to kill shit.

Also david kim used them in show matches but those were showmatches so they're not meant to be taken seriously
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
BaaL`
Profile Joined May 2010
297 Posts
July 23 2010 23:54 GMT
#6
It seems to me you need to launch 2 nukes at the same time in order to hit anything that can move.
The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 00:15:08
July 24 2010 00:12 GMT
#7
Actually, there was this one video I saw that demonstrated that if you use a nuke on the corner of a nexus, the red dot will be hidden. Also, if you place a nuke near the top of the mineral, then the mineral's color will blur over the dot (don't know if this still works after the last change to the mineral's appearance). And then, it's near invisible if creep is around those minerals as well.

Unfortunately I can't find the video where this was demonstrated, though I can say from experience that I've completely wiped out entire mineral lines with the Nexus corner trick.

EDIT: FOUND IT!!
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
July 24 2010 00:22 GMT
#8
You can always count on TheLittleOne for fun tactics. Definitely give that TLO v Nazgul game listed above a look if you haven't seen that game yet. I got 3 people hooked on StarCraft II with one viewing of that video alone
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
July 24 2010 00:37 GMT
#9
On July 24 2010 09:12 The_Pacifist wrote:
Actually, there was this one video I saw that demonstrated that if you use a nuke on the corner of a nexus, the red dot will be hidden. Also, if you place a nuke near the top of the mineral, then the mineral's color will blur over the dot (don't know if this still works after the last change to the mineral's appearance). And then, it's near invisible if creep is around those minerals as well.

Unfortunately I can't find the video where this was demonstrated, though I can say from experience that I've completely wiped out entire mineral lines with the Nexus corner trick.

EDIT: FOUND IT!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbC5fOQbKqM


For all you protoss and zergs who want to prevent this, I BELIEVE pressing the insert and delete keys pans your view to each side. So when you are looking for your dot, pan to each side as you look around, increasing your chances of seeing the dot. If you see a red dot for a split second, you'll notice it, but a blob of purple you'll probably miss regardless of how long.

Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 24 2010 00:55 GMT
#10
TLO just used nukes in last night vs Tester. The first nuke forces Tester to retreat, and the second almost decimated Tester's army, but he sniped the ghost just in time. You can find the games in the King of the Beta thread.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 01:50:24
July 24 2010 01:49 GMT
#11
I use nukes quite a bit. You would have seen plenty galore ages ago except i'm not part of the ruling class elite yet that are invited to invite tourneys regardless of skill.
Sup
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
July 24 2010 01:50 GMT
#12
I use them all the time in TvZ and TvP, seem to work well for locking the Z and/or P out of battles when attacking his expo :D
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jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
July 24 2010 01:57 GMT
#13
Hiding the dot doesnt do anything though because I know my reaction to a nuke is:

1) move army
2) check bases for dot
3) if i cant find dot quickly move probes
4) ouch
5) back to mining

nukes can be good for taking out clustered buildings (need 2), breaking a seige line, delaying mining (see tlo v nazgul), good fun when you have already won or in games that dont matter, or just being a total baller
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SiegeFlank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States410 Posts
July 24 2010 02:02 GMT
#14
On July 24 2010 10:57 jamesr12 wrote:
Hiding the dot doesnt do anything though because I know my reaction to a nuke is:

1) move army
2) check bases for dot
3) if i cant find dot quickly move probes
4) ouch
5) back to mining

nukes can be good for taking out clustered buildings (need 2), breaking a seige line, delaying mining (see tlo v nazgul), good fun when you have already won or in games that dont matter, or just being a total baller


You can actually hit the space bar when you're alerted about a nuclear launch, and it'll center your screen on the dot.

As far as usage goes, as TLO demonstrates, they're very good for denying your opponent entry to an area, and also have a lot of strength when your opponent's army is in a position it can't escape from easily.
Bird up
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
July 24 2010 03:33 GMT
#15
On July 24 2010 11:02 SiegeFlank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 10:57 jamesr12 wrote:
Hiding the dot doesnt do anything though because I know my reaction to a nuke is:

1) move army
2) check bases for dot
3) if i cant find dot quickly move probes
4) ouch
5) back to mining

nukes can be good for taking out clustered buildings (need 2), breaking a seige line, delaying mining (see tlo v nazgul), good fun when you have already won or in games that dont matter, or just being a total baller


You can actually hit the space bar when you're alerted about a nuclear launch, and it'll center your screen on the dot.

As far as usage goes, as TLO demonstrates, they're very good for denying your opponent entry to an area, and also have a lot of strength when your opponent's army is in a position it can't escape from easily.

WOW WHAT. that really comes in handy...but at the same time makes it harder to nuke others...-_-
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WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
July 24 2010 03:38 GMT
#16
On July 24 2010 11:02 SiegeFlank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 10:57 jamesr12 wrote:
Hiding the dot doesnt do anything though because I know my reaction to a nuke is:

1) move army
2) check bases for dot
3) if i cant find dot quickly move probes
4) ouch
5) back to mining

nukes can be good for taking out clustered buildings (need 2), breaking a seige line, delaying mining (see tlo v nazgul), good fun when you have already won or in games that dont matter, or just being a total baller


You can actually hit the space bar when you're alerted about a nuclear launch, and it'll center your screen on the dot.

As far as usage goes, as TLO demonstrates, they're very good for denying your opponent entry to an area, and also have a lot of strength when your opponent's army is in a position it can't escape from easily.


Using space no longer works.
zvz is imba
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
July 24 2010 03:47 GMT
#17
On July 24 2010 12:38 WeSt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 11:02 SiegeFlank wrote:
On July 24 2010 10:57 jamesr12 wrote:
Hiding the dot doesnt do anything though because I know my reaction to a nuke is:

1) move army
2) check bases for dot
3) if i cant find dot quickly move probes
4) ouch
5) back to mining

nukes can be good for taking out clustered buildings (need 2), breaking a seige line, delaying mining (see tlo v nazgul), good fun when you have already won or in games that dont matter, or just being a total baller


You can actually hit the space bar when you're alerted about a nuclear launch, and it'll center your screen on the dot.

As far as usage goes, as TLO demonstrates, they're very good for denying your opponent entry to an area, and also have a lot of strength when your opponent's army is in a position it can't escape from easily.


Using space no longer works.


yah, unless the ghost hits something =/
Sup
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
July 24 2010 06:36 GMT
#18
Defensive nukes to buy time are the most promising use of the strategy I've seen. They won't kill your buildings and if they don't have detection their either forced to sprint forward into your troops or to withdraw back.

Could be fun to play with. Of course this is worthless if it preents you from reinforcing your army (over production facilities).
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