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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
July 23 2010 22:51 GMT
#1
Is anybody having the same experience I am? To me the iCCup ladder seems to have gotten ridiculously hard. Granted, I quit for a few weeks which really rots your mechanics but ffs, I was a solid C player when I quit. After a few games to get my senses back I'd at least expect to reach C- right now. As it stands I'm mid D+ and I can't for the life of me make it past that. It's not cause I suck. It's not cause I'm getting cheesed, or cause people are doing crazy strats now. It's just that my opponents are way better than me. We're both playing straight up and im losing to half the D+ guys I play. My reasoning is that all the former noobs are on Sc2, and the only people willing to stick to the stone age are the diehard, really fucking skilled fans. The past month it feels as if the ladder has gotten way way harder. Anybody else feel the same way?

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Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 22:56:19
July 23 2010 22:55 GMT
#2
i keep running into C/B lvl (last season) players and have gone 1 game in 20ish vs a D+/lower lvl player
...
im C- high
now im stuck in D+ bc of it lolol

its a LOT harder, probably bc of sc2

also...my 1st game back was against luckyfool xD that was lulz insta i KNOW im screwed lol
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 23 2010 22:59 GMT
#3
Yeah that probably happened. Hopefully it'll get better soon. Although I did manage to get D+ up from D last season, I saw that a lot of the games were ridiculously hard compared to what they shouldve been.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
July 23 2010 23:00 GMT
#4
Lots of people who were mediocre have transferred to SC2, as such the only ones left on BW ladder are die-hards who won't switch to SC2 for a long time. The talent pool has been concentrated and those left are going to be very good.
That and the Koreans are still playing it in big numbers as always.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 23:03:37
July 23 2010 23:03 GMT
#5
yea ive noticed that the korean hours are actually more similar in skill than the rest of the hours lol...lucky me i never dodged koreans lol
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 23 2010 23:03 GMT
#6
Yes iccup is hard as fuck. You just have to deal with it as I have .
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
mainerd
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States347 Posts
July 23 2010 23:16 GMT
#7
correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't iccup a competitive ladder? isn't it a good thing if the competition at the lower ranks increase? i always thought people played iccup for a challenge, and the lower ranks always seemed like a waste of time for good players to play through, especially if they were full of these sc2 noobs you speak of
"Let me tell you, in eSTRO we had some circle jerks, straight up. It wasn't pretty." -NonY
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
July 23 2010 23:17 GMT
#8
Somewhere far away from here, Jim Raynor is playing a sad violin tune just for you.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 23:36:38
July 23 2010 23:33 GMT
#9
Ive also heard that this season was lubriciously hard. i would probably be D (



also...my 1st game back was against luckyfool xD that was lulz insta i KNOW im screwed lol

When you have no hope cheese >: (. . Pretty effective vs terran
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
July 23 2010 23:47 GMT
#10
It has seemed a bit more difficult because I've bumped into more D/D+ players who are playing below their rank at the moment, but when you play people who are *actually* D/D+, it really isn't that different from before, as far as overall skill level is concerned.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
July 24 2010 00:48 GMT
#11
On July 24 2010 08:16 mainerd wrote:
correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't iccup a competitive ladder? isn't it a good thing if the competition at the lower ranks increase? i always thought people played iccup for a challenge, and the lower ranks always seemed like a waste of time for good players to play through, especially if they were full of these sc2 noobs you speak of

Going from an environment where you win every game to an environment where you get into 9 game losing streaks is very painful.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1342 Posts
July 24 2010 01:07 GMT
#12
I'm also finding Iccup pretty tough. Still, this isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as you can accept not getting as high a rank as you did before for a while. To be honest, I've enjoyed the challenge even though I consistently get my ass handed to me. I figure, eventually I'll get better and as long as it's not a reflection on me getting worse (I seem to be improving), I'm ok with it.

On a slightly different note, I noticed that there are no foreigners with an A- or even (I think) a B+ this season. It makes me kind of sad that we no longer have top players to represent us, but I'm optimistic that many of the mid level players will step it up and fill the void ^^.
Setanta
Profile Joined June 2010
99 Posts
July 24 2010 01:22 GMT
#13
Less players = lower ranks of course

especially when most of the remaining BW players are the loyal Koreans :p
'Zerg tech very slowly. Zerg has almost no timing pushes. Zerg never use all tier 1 units before reaching tier 2. While it does not look like it, there is a single fact which is responsible for all of this: A Hatchery is too expensive'
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 01:44:32
July 24 2010 01:43 GMT
#14
On July 24 2010 08:33 Tabbris wrote:
Ive also heard that this season was lubriciously hard. i would probably be D (



Show nested quote +
also...my 1st game back was against luckyfool xD that was lulz insta i KNOW im screwed lol

When you have no hope cheese >: (. . Pretty effective vs terran

except im one of those rare protosses who DESPISES cheese so im (before sc2) mid C- instead of C lol those proxy 2gates could go a long way loool

edit: why isnt my name on that quote Q.Q

oh its cuz u wiped the 1st half of it lol
Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
July 24 2010 01:43 GMT
#15
On July 24 2010 08:16 mainerd wrote:
correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't iccup a competitive ladder? isn't it a good thing if the competition at the lower ranks increase? i always thought people played iccup for a challenge, and the lower ranks always seemed like a waste of time for good players to play through, especially if they were full of these sc2 noobs you speak of


it is competitive, but when alot of people see SC2 is out, they will play it. A very high percent (not exactly sure) of the players on ICCup before SC2 were D- to D+. That range was huge. Most of the higher level players will still play BW because they are the hardcore players that didnt suck. So, the general level of play rises, making everyone fall back a few rankings.
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
July 24 2010 01:59 GMT
#16
so ur mad at sc2 bc it takes all the newbies and u have no more newbies to beat up? isnt the whole point of competitive gaming to play people ur level?

if u hate losing just play D- players all day? or better yet only play children under age 10 and only on maps they don't know. problem solved.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 24 2010 02:03 GMT
#17
he just wants to play people his level without having a red letter by his name, I think everyone can relate.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10888 Posts
July 24 2010 02:40 GMT
#18
who cares, 3more days till sc2 is back up and then none of this will matter bro
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
July 24 2010 02:45 GMT
#19
hahah i stopped trying once i got to C-. too hard! plus my lack of sc1 practice...*cough* sc2 *cough*
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 24 2010 02:57 GMT
#20
On July 24 2010 11:40 SandTSquared wrote:
who cares, 3more days till sc2 is back up and then none of this will matter bro


Actually it gets worse cause then Iccup will get even harder than it is now .
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
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