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LMO compared to Salmosa

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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 21:04:15
July 16 2010 21:00 GMT
#1
Well, I have been using the LMO for the past year or so, and while it is absolutely perfect for BW, Its DPI is not high enough to play SC2 at high res comfortably. I have everything maxed and it takes ages to get across the screen, not to mention the fact that if I turn off mouse acceleration it is either slow as a snail or jumping 4 pixels at a time. So I think I'm buying a modern mouse.
I looked around and I'm settled on the Razer Salmosa, its cheap and smaller than many other mice, and I exclusively use a fingertip grip on mice.

I found both the regular and Asia edition (smaller) on ebay from reputable sellers for 25$:
REGULAR: US/EU Salmosa
ASIA: Smaller size


But I'm still deciding which one to get, I searched back and found a few threads comparing them, but not very conclusively....
Does anyone here have experience with the LMO and Asia Edition salmosa? If they are the same rough size that would be perfect for me. But I have also heard that they are really tiny, I actually have large hands and want as close to LMO size as possible.

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This is the Asia edition, it LOOKS about the same size as the LMO...is it really? I have heard complaints that it is WAY too small...I don't want a toy mouse.


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In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17069 Posts
July 16 2010 21:04 GMT
#2
I've always found these mice to be small to a point of being uncomfortable.

My personal preference is a solid mouse that fills to my hands (think MX518), so perhaps it's just a personal bias.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 21:06:14
July 16 2010 21:05 GMT
#3
On July 17 2010 06:04 Empyrean wrote:
I've always found these mice to be small to a point of being uncomfortable.

My personal preference is a solid mouse that fills to my hands (think MX518), so perhaps it's just a personal bias.


Have you used the LMO? Do you find that too small?

I never touch my palm to the mouse, so I want something fairly small I can fingertip easily.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17069 Posts
July 16 2010 21:14 GMT
#4
On July 17 2010 06:05 sob3k wrote:
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On July 17 2010 06:04 Empyrean wrote:
I've always found these mice to be small to a point of being uncomfortable.

My personal preference is a solid mouse that fills to my hands (think MX518), so perhaps it's just a personal bias.


Have you used the LMO? Do you find that too small?

I never touch my palm to the mouse, so I want something fairly small I can fingertip easily.


I've never tried the LMO. In any case, use my mouse differently. I like to feel the mouse against my palm, so perhaps my problem isn't so bad for you.
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kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
July 16 2010 21:15 GMT
#5
What is the LMO? Basic google searching gets me a bunch of mouse-related biology papers >.>
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17069 Posts
July 16 2010 21:17 GMT
#6
I think he means this:

http://www.oursbiz.com/Company/83560/Mouse_Lmo_123.aspx
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 16 2010 21:24 GMT
#7
On July 17 2010 06:15 kzn wrote:
What is the LMO? Basic google searching gets me a bunch of mouse-related biology papers >.>


On July 17 2010 06:17 Empyrean wrote:
I think he means this:

http://www.oursbiz.com/Company/83560/Mouse_Lmo_123.aspx


I mean the famous Logitech Optical Mini...The mouse you see every BW progamer using
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In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 00:23:05
July 16 2010 21:26 GMT
#8
go for non-asian
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edit-well the lmo seems inbetween the two...up to you, but you have big hands so why go for the little one...unless you do a serious claw grip I suppose.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17069 Posts
July 16 2010 21:28 GMT
#9
Ah.

In either case, I haven't used a Logitech Optical Mini either.

But I generally prefer big mice to smaller mice, so take that into consideration.
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c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
July 16 2010 21:34 GMT
#10
On July 17 2010 06:15 kzn wrote:
What is the LMO? Basic google searching gets me a bunch of mouse-related biology papers >.>


Logitech Mini Optical - it's a popular mouse among SC:BW pro-gamers.

Here is a size comparison of the Razer Salmosa and the LMO
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I believe the Asia Pro-gaming edition is roughly the same size as the Logitech Mini Optical. I have one and its the same size as my Logitech VX Nano, and I remember a comparison photo of the VX Nano and LMO being the same size. It was from a very in-depth laser/optical mouse DPI review, but I can't seem to find it.

Both of the mice have the same 1800/800 DPI switch (very useful for playing both BW and SC2). If you want a slightly larger mouse I would go for the Salmosa, or a similar Logitech/Microsoft mouse. If you're comfortable with the size of the Logitech Mini Optical buy the Asia Pro-gaming Salmosa.

Here is a size comparison of the two Salmosa mice
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 21:54:03
July 16 2010 21:52 GMT
#11
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is this the Asia or normal?, why cant they line the damn things up on the mouse pad so I can actually compare...lol


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In this pic the regular salmosa looks the same size as the LMO...at this point i'm leaning towards the Asia because I really fingertip, I gotta go find a ruler and measure my LMO.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 16 2010 21:57 GMT
#12
the pic of the five mice on the mousepad - that's the asian salmosa. the us salmosa is slightly larger than an LMO
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unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
July 16 2010 22:44 GMT
#13
FakeSteve to the rescue! im using a US salmosa and its just fine to fingertip, so either one would probably be good also both dpi settings are PERFECT for playing BOTH sc:bw and sc2 ^_____^ which makes the mouse my favorite from Razer atm (also like the diamondback 3g but i use that for fps only because the salmosa is better for starcraft in every way, funny thing i fingertip in starcraft but not in fps ^___^ )
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 16 2010 22:52 GMT
#14
On July 17 2010 06:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
the pic of the five mice on the mousepad - that's the asian salmosa. the us salmosa is slightly larger than an LMO


This one right here.

Im a big person, 6'5 200 lbs and I use a salmosa with absolutely no problems. It's really not that small of a mouse.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 00:21:30
July 17 2010 00:20 GMT
#15
Get the asia edition, it's great for fingertip
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snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
August 12 2010 08:33 GMT
#16
Just got the regular Salmosa and I gotta say, after a long ass time of searching for a suitable mouse I think I've finally found it. I had reservations that it would be too small but it actually feels much bigger than the Krait I was using. No more awkward grip! It's easily clawable for average hands btw.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
June 29 2012 13:15 GMT
#17
Do anyone have the correct dimensions of the LMO?
The websites that sold them are absolutely wrong. Amazon stated it was 5.8 inches, that's longer than the Deathadder. rofl

Anyways. Would be great if anyone knew or could measure. I am looking for a new mouse to replace my LMO.

Salmosa KR: 96x54.4x33 (mm)
Salmosa US: 115x63x37 (mm)

Deathadder: 128x70x42.5 (mm)
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