The best thing you could. There's no substitute for playing with real people. It makes the experience a lot more fun. I remember playing L4D2 single player and being so bored.

It might go back to $10 on the last day of the steam sale. So be patient.

RumZ

United States956 Posts

July 01 2010 15:50 GMT

#22

On July 01 2010 23:13 Zozo wrote:
This is gonna sound like trolling but, don't play single player =p

I'd hardly call that trolling, to be quite honest that sounds like perfectly good advice on this series, so far.

floor exercise

Canada5847 Posts

July 01 2010 15:54 GMT

#23

L4D2 versus seems way more fun and challenging. I have only played it a bit, but there's just way more variety than in L4D1. Maybe it lacks a bit of the atmosphere that he first had, and the characters are significantly worse except for the black guy. I hope they make the old characters playable in L4D2 in the future.

All in all, it feels like L4D2 is the game they wanted to make the first time around and it just got rushed out the door or something. It's a shame the way they treated the first game by releasing the 2nd so quick, it really damaged the community and the way people see the games.

GunSec

1095 Posts

July 01 2010 16:08 GMT

#24

I would definitely buy it if my computer didn't suck that much

SichuanPanda

Canada1542 Posts

July 01 2010 17:16 GMT

#25

Stop playing single player with the bots!!! L4D and L4D2 are meant to be played online with a full team of human players. Versus mode online is quite possibly the most fun thing ever, for those who don't know what that mode is its very simple - you play the campaign as normal, except you are playing against another human team. Both human teams take turns playing Infected and Survivors on each level. The team with the higher survivor score wins the round (in the event of ties, the damage dealt as Infected is the tie-breaker).

SagaZ

France3460 Posts

July 01 2010 17:18 GMT

#26

AI is so retarded sometimes man. Like you get grabbed by a smoker and instead of giving a gentle lovely melee hit to free you they like, walk all around the map to reach the smoker and melee kill it, arrgh so much rage
Multiplayer is where the gold is at, but if you play with pubs, multiplayer makes you apreciate bots sometimes. I mean, bots can pull off hudge snipes of shit you didn't even knew where there, and more importantly, they never friendly fire. On expert dificultys, my main cause of death is friendly fire, always, and with pubs it's even more agravating.
Play LAN or online with friend, it's what the game was designed for

vlaric

United States412 Posts

July 01 2010 18:23 GMT

#27

In my experience, single player on expert will take either a lot of time or very little. There are two methods I use when running levels:

1. Rush ahead, get to the saferoom ASAP

This method usually works because the director (L4D/L4D2's AI controller/management system) works such so that the level becomes more difficult as more time passes by. Additionally, the director will adjust the zombie spawns depending on the conditions of your allies and the number of zombies currently in the map. On expert, if you rush ahead and your partners get incapped behind you, you will usually be able to fight/didge a minimal amount of zombies and get to the saferoom easily, provided you can dodge tanks (or there are no tanks) and you can fend off specials quickly. This is mainly due to the fact that there is a limit on the number of zombies that can be on the map at any given time (which I think is smaller at the beginning of the level), and if your partners are behind you and incapacitated there will be the max amount of zombies spawned attacking them instead of you. Here's an example of a youtube user who does expert runs with the 'rush ahead' method:

http://www.youtube.com/user/lsdMyth

And a video:

2. Take your time

I've used this method in L4D1/L4D2; basically, spend a lot of time retrying with bots until they somehow pull through for you and you can beat the level. These runs usually take a long, long time, for the bots suck really hard and it'll be pretty much you carrying the team. However, they make pretty good snipers for specials (because they have perfect aim), so what I usually do is worry about getting the common infected killed the most so long as I have the bots to snipe the specials for me. On a whole, though, this fashion of running levels is much more tedious and frustrating than the fast method, but with due diligence it is very possible so long as you have the time and patience to deal with it (as I'm sure you already know, lol).

Kezzer

United States1268 Posts

July 01 2010 18:23 GMT

#28

every time coach always disturbs the witch everytime

zer0das

United States8519 Posts

July 01 2010 19:20 GMT

#29

On July 02 2010 00:37 CharlieMurphy wrote:
what exactly is realism anyways? (sounds kind of ironic for a zombie game).

Single player l4d2 is as real as it gets, this shit is impossible.

You can't see other people's silhouettes... probably not that big of a deal with bots, but with humans it can get rather nightmarish quickly.

I think expert is doable with a good group of 4, but I don't think it is at all possible with anything less than 3- Left 4 Dead you could do it with 2 with a lot of work, but it wasn't insane. The charger and the spitter can incap too quickly.

But the original is still better. :d

nttea

Sweden4353 Posts

July 01 2010 20:32 GMT

#30

Do you really want single player? ^_^ l4d1 was fucking awesome, didn't play l4d2 yet except for trying it out a little. but charlie! l4d was all about the multiplayer i don't understand why single player?

LSGamer

United Kingdom246 Posts

July 01 2010 20:57 GMT

#31

Ah god L4D, me and my 3 friends got that and no word of a lie it was our only game for 4 months from November through February. It had staying power.
However, they all chipped in to get my L4D2 to reincarnate the group when I couln't afford it and, you know how long we racked up in game time? 24 hours. I feel like something is missing. I don't know what it is, I just prefer L4D.
Also, on L4D I used to be weary of moving around on L4D2 its a joke I run everywhere.

On the AI, gotta agree with you, too many games are going multi player now. The AI sucks, reminds me of some awesome L4D animations on newgrounds <3

Zidane

United States1684 Posts

July 01 2010 21:23 GMT

#32

Who plays alone, you must be a lonely soul.

Clow

Brazil880 Posts

July 01 2010 21:40 GMT

#33

A friend of mine who just passed, may he rest in peace, was a beast at l4d2. He could beat all the campaigns alone.
I just picked l4d2 on that $30 bucks 4pack steam offer, and I love it. The AI is really stupid but playing with friends is a lot of fun. We tried playing on expert and didnt go very far T_T that shit is hard.

UmmTheHobo

United States650 Posts

July 01 2010 21:45 GMT

#34

I know in left 4 dead original there was a console code that made the AI survivors act independent of you, as in if you weren't there they would just do the level by themselves. If I am not mistaken it would make them act a bit smarter because what messes them up is their orders to follow you. Something to look into, I'm not going to google it, probably won't take to long to find though.

EDIT: However, you have to follow them around, and if they do decide to do something stupid, you either make a mad dash for the end and die, or stick with them and die.

icystorage

Jollibee19343 Posts

July 01 2010 21:59 GMT

#35

me and 3 of my friends always play on expert and damn its fucking hard, tsk =/ we completed l4d expert setting missions but l4d2 is just impossible

Binky1842

United States2599 Posts

July 01 2010 22:12 GMT

#36

play expert realism online with 3 other pubs a few times. when you go to playing single player expert, it'll be stupid easy in comparison.

Tabbris

Bangladesh2839 Posts

July 01 2010 22:28 GMT

#37

How about you buy the game?

Random()

Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts

July 01 2010 23:57 GMT

#38

Bought L4D2 on sale, played for a couple hours, I don't see so far what is so good about it. Probably just not my thing. I prefer exploration and positional combat, but everyone is just rushing ahead like crazy, no time to appreciate the level design. Also, screw the flashlight idea, the darkness doesn't add anything but leave you with annoying tiny visible area.

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