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RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 18:22:02
June 17 2010 23:05 GMT
#1
This is barring any questions or problems that are already posted in this thread:

At this point in time I would like to redirect you to Team Liquid's Technical Support Forum. With a board dedicated to fixing problems and computers and all that nice stuff, I feel that a blog such as this is more or less unnecessary. If you currently have a query in here and reply to it, I will gladly answer, otherwise, please direct your questions on to that forum. Thank you!


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Hello Team Liquid,

Recently I have had both the influx of computers to fix in real life, and I am seeing many on these forums.. so I have decided to make this blog to help assist people.

With Starcraft 2 just around the corner, in the last 2 weeks I have built, replaced parts, and fixed on the upwards of 20 Personal Computers. It is no secret that SC2 is part of the reason (About 15 of them were meant to be conditioned for the purpose of playing sc2 only.)

Currently I will handle any computer related problems through this blog for the greater good of the community. I know there are many people out there that are extremely efficient in the same manner, please feel free to chip in. The more the merrier.

If you are having computer issues with computers you have had, you are considering upgrading, or anything of that nature, feel free to post inside this blog, and I will help in a timely manner.


The longer this lasts, the more I will update it with useful links and such as often as I can, and people's solutions to their problems will be categorized in this thread as well, so if we encounter similar problems on other computers, the community can have a step ahead of the curve in assessing and maintaining a smooth fix to their problem, and get them back gaming as soon as humanly possible.

When posting a problem please:


- Post all the products and hardware involved
- Any recent hardware changes
- Any recent software changes (I.E. - I downloaded music, videos, music videos, etc. from NotAnIllegalDownloadingSite.com etc etc.)
- Anything you feel is noteworthy to the issue you are experiencing



Please be warned, my knowledge of fixing Macs is limited.


Content added (Will add dates of last edit for archived accuracy):

1. Testing Memory properly with memtest86 (6/17/2010):

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Memtest86 is one of the few tools that can accurately be used to test memory, but there are some issues people encounter that should be noted. First of all, Memtest86 is a downloadable ISO that can burned to a R/W:CD or R/W:DVD. To successfully boot off of a CD or DVD with memtest86 on it, you must first access your BIOS and make your CD/DVD drive your first bootable device, if it is not set already by default.

Memtest86 will properly test your RAM for errors if used correctly. Some things to keep in mind when using the program that are very important are:

- Just because a problem shows up in the RAM, doesn't mean it is indefinitely the RAM. It can also be a processor issue at some times. The best way to determine this is by running the test on either a single processor, or round robin processing, to eliminate or determine a threat, depending on the testing you are performing. For example, you are running a single stick of RAM through multi-core, and an error comes up. The next step is to cycle the ram through single core processing, one, than the second. If the error only comes up during the 4 cycles with a single processor, your hardware errors may be more serious than simply the RAM.

- The current version of Memtest on their site is 3.5 and it is also noted that version 3.5 will only properly test UNDER 4 GB of total ram. Which means you need to load test 3.4 (which is option 3 when booting up memtest.) Using the current version of memtest with 4gb or more of RAM will result in often false positives around test 7, and in other places as well. If you make this mistake your test is NO LONGER ACCURATE.

- Using memtest should require AT LEAST a few cycles (in this program's terms, a cycle is running all the tests 1-9 consecutively from start to finish with no modification, not running a selected test a few times), it is something that should be tested overnight. I urge people that use memtest to test ram to not simply run a single cycle and decide everything is functional and fine. I typically work in the environment of 4-6 cycles if I am on the clock for time. A functional computer without issues should be able to cycle memtest over the length of weeks at a time without incurring an error while running the test.

- There are cases where RAM is dual channeled, when errors happen with Dual Channel RAM, it is encouraged that the RAM is afterward tested one stick at a time, to isolate the errors. In Dual Channel RAM I have encountered cases where the ram was both coming back faulty, when it was only an issue for a single stick.


2. Upgrading your computer (6/17/2010):

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In today's day and age, upgrading a computer isn't as simple as it was when Counter-Strike was the game to play. Back then, the answer was the video card 99% of the time and that was it. These days, it is much more complicated. Now, a computer will choke if not properly upgraded. The following is a list of things to take careful consideration when upgrading a computer:

- Is the socket of my CPU the same as the one I would like to upgrade to? (The most common socket is the 775, next to the 1156. This is extremely important to note compatibility.)
- Can my current Power supply handle the upgrade I want to make (this is especially big in video card upgrades these days, (and even more important for those who are considering using SLI or CrossFire Technology.)
- Will the upgrade I want to make choke a different part of my computer making this upgrade less than efficient? (Putting a GTX260 in a computer running a low end core 2 duo and 2gb of ram is really not going to be worth a 200 dollar purchase.)
- Can my motherboard support the upgrade that I am attempting to make? (Is it SLI ready, does it support SATA drives, etc.)
- Does my computer have the capacity to handle the upgrade I want to make? (Could comprise of a number of issues.)
- Will it be necessary to purchase additional cooling with an upgrade of a product? (That new Overclock ready processor is really cheap, but the house is starting to burn! )
- Will this part fit in my current computer tower? (Most ATX mids are able to handle upgrades, but not everyone uses that tower.)

These are just some questions that one should ask themselves when considering to upgrade the computer. At times, I find customers that quickly answer no to many of these, thus no longer warranting a purchase. (Yes I build computers for a living, but I am not a dick, I won't let someone short change themselves, it's bad for business.)

It's important to do your homework before upgrading, homework I am willing to assist you in on your journey to building or upgrading a new PC, or making an older one give you that tingly feeling it did inside when you first purchased it.



3. Figuring out what exactly is inside your computer with CPU-Z (6/17/2010)

CPU-Z is a great tool. I will provide a more in depth write up on how to properly use it shortly. I've done a lot of typing already, let's see if the community actually uses this service.

Concepts that should be added:

Properly burning an ISO.
Backing up data


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DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
June 17 2010 23:12 GMT
#2
Good blog, although possibly it should be moved to General if it's successful enough? Also I'll try to stop in here every once in awhile and see if I can put my knowledge to use if it continues to be helpful.
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 17 2010 23:17 GMT
#3
I guess if a mod wants to throw this into general that's fine by me, I was just playing the safe > sorry route, I know how it gets when things are posted in the wrong area incorrectly.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
June 18 2010 00:12 GMT
#4
On June 18 2010 08:12 DeathByMonkeys wrote:
Good blog, although possibly it should be moved to General if it's successful enough? Also I'll try to stop in here every once in awhile and see if I can put my knowledge to use if it continues to be helpful.


Me too, I will try to help out if OP doesn't mind.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
June 18 2010 00:22 GMT
#5
If you can help me with this: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=131253, I will love you forever.
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 18 2010 00:41 GMT
#6
On June 18 2010 09:22 Saracen wrote:
If you can help me with this: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=131253, I will love you forever.



Which edition of the Live CD are you using? There are at least 2 that I know of, and the first one typically does what you stated in your previous thread. Loads the GUI menu and stalls after that point.
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 00:44:35
June 18 2010 00:44 GMT
#7
I'm definitely good with computer repair, but my expertise is more on the networking side, I doubt I could really add anything to the work-station discussion. If anyone has networking issues of any kind though please feel free to PM me about the issue. Definitely should be a definitive location where IT experts on TL can share their knowledge and get people the help they need.
i-bonjwa
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 18 2010 00:48 GMT
#8
On June 18 2010 09:44 SichuanPanda wrote:
I'm definitely good with computer repair, but my expertise is more on the networking side, I doubt I could really add anything to the work-station discussion. If anyone has networking issues of any kind though please feel free to PM me about the issue. Definitely should be a definitive location where IT experts on TL can share their knowledge and get people the help they need.



If you want to add anything about smoothing out a network feel free to type it up and I will credit you. The only part is on an internet forum it is tough to see any return on ISP issues, especially when the user's internet is down.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
June 18 2010 00:51 GMT
#9
On June 18 2010 09:41 Joey.rumz wrote:
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On June 18 2010 09:22 Saracen wrote:
If you can help me with this: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=131253, I will love you forever.



Which edition of the Live CD are you using? There are at least 2 that I know of, and the first one typically does what you stated in your previous thread. Loads the GUI menu and stalls after that point.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4426899/Hacking_the_Art_of_Exploitation_2_Edition
This one. I'm pretty sure it's the same version as the Live CD that came with my book. Either way, both don't work.
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
June 18 2010 01:46 GMT
#10
On June 18 2010 09:48 Joey.rumz wrote:
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On June 18 2010 09:44 SichuanPanda wrote:
I'm definitely good with computer repair, but my expertise is more on the networking side, I doubt I could really add anything to the work-station discussion. If anyone has networking issues of any kind though please feel free to PM me about the issue. Definitely should be a definitive location where IT experts on TL can share their knowledge and get people the help they need.



If you want to add anything about smoothing out a network feel free to type it up and I will credit you. The only part is on an internet forum it is tough to see any return on ISP issues, especially when the user's internet is down.


Agreed trying to troubleshoot home networking past the users modem is almost impossible as most ISPs have some sort of 'traffic shaping' or other network control model that doesn't allow for direct user control. When I get some free-time I'll create a quick troubleshooting guide for home users though that cover the most common issues.
i-bonjwa
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 18 2010 01:48 GMT
#11
@Saracen - Is the ubuntu you are using to try to read these both 64 bit?

If so have you tried loading it on a 32 bit system?
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 18 2010 01:48 GMT
#12
On June 18 2010 10:46 SichuanPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 09:48 Joey.rumz wrote:
On June 18 2010 09:44 SichuanPanda wrote:
I'm definitely good with computer repair, but my expertise is more on the networking side, I doubt I could really add anything to the work-station discussion. If anyone has networking issues of any kind though please feel free to PM me about the issue. Definitely should be a definitive location where IT experts on TL can share their knowledge and get people the help they need.



If you want to add anything about smoothing out a network feel free to type it up and I will credit you. The only part is on an internet forum it is tough to see any return on ISP issues, especially when the user's internet is down.


Agreed trying to troubleshoot home networking past the users modem is almost impossible as most ISPs have some sort of 'traffic shaping' or other network control model that doesn't allow for direct user control. When I get some free-time I'll create a quick troubleshooting guide for home users though that cover the most common issues.



Well, that too, but I was referring to the fact that it's hard to reference a web page when you are unable to connect to the internet as the primary problem.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
June 18 2010 02:16 GMT
#13
On June 18 2010 10:48 Joey.rumz wrote:
@Saracen - Is the ubuntu you are using to try to read these both 64 bit?

If so have you tried loading it on a 32 bit system?

I'm pretty sure it's 32 bit (I remember downloading the 32 bit version). How would I check, though? I tried booting it straight from my laptop, though, which runs 64 bit Vista, and it didn't work either.
sYz-Adrenaline
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1850 Posts
June 18 2010 02:23 GMT
#14
Maybe he can help veg
Can you feel the rush?
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-18 05:36:26
June 18 2010 05:33 GMT
#15
On June 18 2010 11:16 Saracen wrote:
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On June 18 2010 10:48 Joey.rumz wrote:
@Saracen - Is the ubuntu you are using to try to read these both 64 bit?

If so have you tried loading it on a 32 bit system?

I'm pretty sure it's 32 bit (I remember downloading the 32 bit version). How would I check, though? I tried booting it straight from my laptop, though, which runs 64 bit Vista, and it didn't work either.



Use this command

sudo lshw -html > Myhardware.html

It will generate an html file with your system information.

Edit: If you are still not sure try to find somewhere you can attempt running it on a 32 bit system. I don't know much on the subject myself about that particular CD, but on a help forum I have a license to when I did search, I found some various errors concerning the CD and 64 bit systems having some errors, and working okay for 32.

I also found that people complained that sometimes that CD is simply corrupt. I don't know the torrent you used exactly, perhaps try another one and test your luck there.
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 18 2010 05:34 GMT
#16
On June 18 2010 11:23 sYz-Adrenaline wrote:
Maybe he can help veg



I know my join date is new, but I also know that Downloading Ram is a pretty tough task. Sorry Veg.
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 19 2010 03:37 GMT
#17
Bump - I'm around all weekend willing to help anyone in need.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
June 19 2010 23:39 GMT
#18
On June 18 2010 14:33 Joey.rumz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 11:16 Saracen wrote:
On June 18 2010 10:48 Joey.rumz wrote:
@Saracen - Is the ubuntu you are using to try to read these both 64 bit?

If so have you tried loading it on a 32 bit system?

I'm pretty sure it's 32 bit (I remember downloading the 32 bit version). How would I check, though? I tried booting it straight from my laptop, though, which runs 64 bit Vista, and it didn't work either.



Use this command

sudo lshw -html > Myhardware.html

It will generate an html file with your system information.

Edit: If you are still not sure try to find somewhere you can attempt running it on a 32 bit system. I don't know much on the subject myself about that particular CD, but on a help forum I have a license to when I did search, I found some various errors concerning the CD and 64 bit systems having some errors, and working okay for 32.

I also found that people complained that sometimes that CD is simply corrupt. I don't know the torrent you used exactly, perhaps try another one and test your luck there.

Yeah, ubuntu is 32 bit, running off of my 64 bit windows vista. Still not working. Thanks for your help, though.
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
June 20 2010 15:06 GMT
#19
On June 20 2010 08:39 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2010 14:33 Joey.rumz wrote:
On June 18 2010 11:16 Saracen wrote:
On June 18 2010 10:48 Joey.rumz wrote:
@Saracen - Is the ubuntu you are using to try to read these both 64 bit?

If so have you tried loading it on a 32 bit system?

I'm pretty sure it's 32 bit (I remember downloading the 32 bit version). How would I check, though? I tried booting it straight from my laptop, though, which runs 64 bit Vista, and it didn't work either.



Use this command

sudo lshw -html > Myhardware.html

It will generate an html file with your system information.

Edit: If you are still not sure try to find somewhere you can attempt running it on a 32 bit system. I don't know much on the subject myself about that particular CD, but on a help forum I have a license to when I did search, I found some various errors concerning the CD and 64 bit systems having some errors, and working okay for 32.

I also found that people complained that sometimes that CD is simply corrupt. I don't know the torrent you used exactly, perhaps try another one and test your luck there.

Yeah, ubuntu is 32 bit, running off of my 64 bit windows vista. Still not working. Thanks for your help, though.


Are you burning the Live CD, or have you tried mounting the download?
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
June 21 2010 16:39 GMT
#20
On June 21 2010 00:06 Joey.rumz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2010 08:39 Saracen wrote:
On June 18 2010 14:33 Joey.rumz wrote:
On June 18 2010 11:16 Saracen wrote:
On June 18 2010 10:48 Joey.rumz wrote:
@Saracen - Is the ubuntu you are using to try to read these both 64 bit?

If so have you tried loading it on a 32 bit system?

I'm pretty sure it's 32 bit (I remember downloading the 32 bit version). How would I check, though? I tried booting it straight from my laptop, though, which runs 64 bit Vista, and it didn't work either.



Use this command

sudo lshw -html > Myhardware.html

It will generate an html file with your system information.

Edit: If you are still not sure try to find somewhere you can attempt running it on a 32 bit system. I don't know much on the subject myself about that particular CD, but on a help forum I have a license to when I did search, I found some various errors concerning the CD and 64 bit systems having some errors, and working okay for 32.

I also found that people complained that sometimes that CD is simply corrupt. I don't know the torrent you used exactly, perhaps try another one and test your luck there.

Yeah, ubuntu is 32 bit, running off of my 64 bit windows vista. Still not working. Thanks for your help, though.


Are you burning the Live CD, or have you tried mounting the download?

Whenever I mount the iso, it just pulls up all the files on the CD, right...? Aren't you supposed to boot from the CD?
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