I moved up a division

Alou

United States3748 Posts

June 05 2010 01:22 GMT

Sounds cool right? Well not when you're 3-9 and everyone in your division has a negative win/loss ratio. Also I moved up when I lost a game to a guy in my Bronze division. I just don't understand how this game functions. I mean, I could understand a fluke where I move up and it's just me, but when my entire division of people is getting moved up it makes me question what the hell is going on with the laddering system....well more so than usual.

...Hrmmm.

canucks12

Canada812 Posts

June 05 2010 01:24 GMT

I hope that it isn't based on points... (in game score)

nttea

Sweden4353 Posts

June 05 2010 02:29 GMT

It does a re-evaluation after a certain amount of games played, that's how you can move up even if you lose last game. Bnet rankings seems fucked up right now though -.-

elmizzt

United States3309 Posts

June 05 2010 04:01 GMT

It makes perfect sense to me that you would get ranked up after a loss. When the system thinks you should be moved up based on a ratio or streak of wins, it is most logical to move you after a loss that breaks the streak or ratio. This is because the system then knows the upper bound of your placement. Moving up on a win makes less sense because if you continue to win more games, the system would have to inefficiently move you up again.

Of course, this is all conjecture on my part, but it seems logical in my head. Let me know if it makes sense or not.

ejac

United States1195 Posts

June 05 2010 04:03 GMT

The leagues are either screwed up at the moment, or blizzard did a major overhaul on them. Right now I'm playing people who are pretty decent/good diamond level players in platnium. It's quite possible that everything is being pushed down one grade, and the lowest ranks have no where lower to go, so they're just getting rolled.

HCastorp

United States388 Posts

June 05 2010 04:14 GMT

The division seem to be organized with similar records, which would suggest that some division are deliberately stronger than others. I just got promoted (to gold

) and everyone in my division is close to .500. Gold divisions I have been in in past resets had a lot of players with much higher win rates.

IceCube

Croatia1403 Posts

June 05 2010 10:31 GMT

Maybe the system is doing it wrong or the people playing it are playing it wrong. I mean when beta is so close to closure who cares about stats and scores, only to play as much as they can. My 50 cents anyhow..

aznhockeyboy16

United States558 Posts

June 05 2010 11:15 GMT

I don't know what's going on with the ladder. I beat someone who was like 13-11 and in diamond... which is ridiculous since Drewbie is in my platinum division and is 16-0...

Flyingdutchman

Netherlands858 Posts

July 10 2010 23:31 GMT

Is Silver still around? I got promoted, after a win against a bronze player, from bronze to gold?!

zatic

Zurich15365 Posts

July 10 2010 23:52 GMT

#10

Jupp, Silver is still there. Got promoted from Silver to Platinum

djcube

United States985 Posts

July 10 2010 23:53 GMT

#11

On June 05 2010 13:01 elmizzt wrote:
It makes perfect sense to me that you would get ranked up after a loss. When the system thinks you should be moved up based on a ratio or streak of wins, it is most logical to move you after a loss that breaks the streak or ratio. This is because the system then knows the upper bound of your placement. Moving up on a win makes less sense because if you continue to win more games, the system would have to inefficiently move you up again.

Of course, this is all conjecture on my part, but it seems logical in my head. Let me know if it makes sense or not.

I'm actually not familiar with the sc2 ranking system at all, but when you say "upper bound," it implies that bnet can bump you up one or several tiers (I don't know if this is true). Well, what if, for instance, I'm a bronze level player and only good enough to beat other bronze players. So then I end up playing the average bronze player every game and go 10-0. Well I haven't lost yet, since I've only been playing other bronze players which wouldn't be an accurate test to see what level is appropriate for me. I finally lose my next game, bnet thinks my ratio is really good, and bumps me up to platinum thinking my "upper bound" is that high (when it's really not).

It'd make more sense, for instance, to bump you up or down (or remain at the same level) depending on your win/loss percentage after a certain number of games.

Z3kk

4099 Posts

July 11 2010 00:02 GMT

#12

Wow, everyone's moving up multiple divisions at a time, and I've never ever moved up a division even though I always disconnect and get placed in a crappy division..... I always play until I get bored or sick of it, usually amassing roughly a 50-50 record, and I just stay at division rank 1 forever. Are you guys going like 10-0 and stuff? T__T

Flyingdutchman

Netherlands858 Posts

July 11 2010 03:49 GMT

#13

I think they take point difference in comparison to the opponents skill level. So after a number of games it will check how well you do against the different levels of opposition the matchmaking throws at you. So if you're in bronze and doubling the amount of points against other bronze level players, but also go toe to toe with the gold players you play it will put you in gold

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