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Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
April 26 2010 00:01 GMT
#1
So I played a bunch of games as random on the ladder.

1) Broodlords are so good TvZ it is stupid. They give zerg so much momentum just by being there that zerg can freely take the map. Just 3-4 of them make the tanks' siege mode unusable, and without siege the hydra-roach-infestor blob with broodling meatshield feels unreal to deal with. You also can't shoot them down with vikings without really bad losses if the zerg is careful and keeps the lords over the hydra blob.

2) I've got like no idea at all what to do ZvP and TvP. Protoss army is just frustrating to go against with their forcefield spam, they got near maphack mode with their pesky observers, they always have more units midgame thanks to warpgates, and their late-game ground ball of 4-6 colossi is so fucking powerful. Both ZvP and TvP just feel too all-inish. Immortal push comes, then either he dies, gg, or you die, gg.

3) Phoenixes are underrated, such a fun unit I love the PvZ phoenix with sentry support into colossi play, especially if the zerg goes mutas he's so dead

4) Infestors are cool, especially ZvZ :D Fungal growth on banelings or mutas is really good!

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condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
April 26 2010 00:07 GMT
#2
I thought ZvP was supposed to be easy for Z?
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 26 2010 00:09 GMT
#3
On April 26 2010 09:07 condoriano wrote:
I thought ZvP was supposed to be easy for Z?

Every thing is easy for zerg.
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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
April 26 2010 00:30 GMT
#4
On April 26 2010 09:09 HazMat wrote:v
On April 26 2010 09:07 condoriano wrote:
I thought ZvP was supposed to be easy for Z?

Every thing is easy for zerg.

This. ZvT Baneling/hydra/roach/broodlord is rigged.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
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Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
April 26 2010 00:36 GMT
#5
Yeah, ZvT is okay, but ZvP I feel like I can't really scout what he's doing until lair. That is ok if the map has an easily defended natural, but it sucks on maps like scrap station or desert oasis.
Wotans_Fire
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United Kingdom294 Posts
April 26 2010 00:37 GMT
#6
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 26 2010 09:30 Newguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2010 09:09 HazMat wrote:v
On April 26 2010 09:07 condoriano wrote:
I thought ZvP was supposed to be easy for Z?

Every thing is easy for zerg.

This. ZvT Baneling/hydra/roach/broodlord is rigged.


No zerg ever gets that far after facing hellion/banshees of death.
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JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
April 26 2010 00:39 GMT
#7
Broodlors, almost as bad as defilers
If you have to ask, you don't know.
fAnTaCy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States893 Posts
April 26 2010 00:44 GMT
#8
On April 26 2010 09:09 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2010 09:07 condoriano wrote:
I thought ZvP was supposed to be easy for Z?

Every thing is easy for zerg.


I beg to differ, i haven't won a zvp in 2 days and that's using different builds..different unit compositions and it used to be my best mu
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
April 26 2010 01:03 GMT
#9
broodlords definitely are too good, but once you see they are going for it, if they went low econ two hatch (sorta like SC1 2 hatch guardian) get a reactored starport/+another starport asap and make lots of vikings.

and if they played a standard game and you did not harrass or do damage, you lose
but vikings are the counter.
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