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Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
April 21 2010 13:24 GMT
#1
The SC2 Beta is up and coming. Esport-athletes from all games are looking forward to it, even casual-gamers are interested and so is the media. Is it a good think? Most certainly yes.

And still, I don't like it all the time. I don't know why, but sometimes, I miss the elitist feeling of the "underground", the scene, the small amount of people (outside korea) who love this 10 year old game, who are still playing and watching it, who see the art in it.
The feeling that if you meet someone who knows BW and still watching it, you are on the same wavelength immediately. The feeling that you know he truly understands the genius of the game and after all, deserves it.

I know it probably is as stupid as saying "hey, I listened to this band/music way before it became popular" or even stopping listening to this music at all because of that.

Even tho I know that, when I'm in the subway watching the monitors displaying advertisement/news of ESL mostly with the contents of SC2, I sometimes get this nostalgic feeling, missing the elitist of SC/BW.

*****
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-21 13:29:37
April 21 2010 13:29 GMT
#2
well thank the activlizzard and its "esports team" and their "we just thought up a bunch of cool units with no thought about balance before hand. now we are trying to make it all work."

madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
April 21 2010 13:30 GMT
#3
I know what you mean. I hated how I always tried to convince my friends to appreciate starcraft. It seemed like everybody thought "lol why are you playing some shitty 10 year old game. the graphics suck."

Now that SC2 is out and everybody cares about starcraft I kind of miss the old days where playing Starcraft felt like being some part of cool underground club almost. I know it isn't logical and starcraft gaining popularity is generally a good thing but I feel the exact same way as you.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 21 2010 13:32 GMT
#4
Same here man, hardly any people in SG appreciates Starcraft anymore.

"Starcraft? You mean SC2?"

"No, the first one. You know, Brood War."

"That crappy looking 10 year old game?"
POGGERS
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
April 21 2010 13:38 GMT
#5
Well you can still cheer for all the former SC:BW players in SC2 =]
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9825 Posts
April 21 2010 13:40 GMT
#6
former bw players in sc2 are now sc2 players, unless you're actually playing bw more than sc2, i think most ppl with keys (and were bw players) are now sc2 players.
boomer hands
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-21 13:47:04
April 21 2010 13:44 GMT
#7
On April 21 2010 22:29 omninmo wrote:
well thank the activlizzard and its "esports team" and their "we just thought up a bunch of cool units with no thought about balance before hand. now we are trying to make it all work."


Uh what?

If you'd be one of the true oldschool players you'd realize how well balanced the game is so far, if you expected anything better than this then you sir are delusional.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-21 14:07:09
April 21 2010 13:46 GMT
#8
On April 21 2010 22:38 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Well you can still cheer for all the former SC:BW players in SC2 =]

haha when my friends say hey want to look at these reps i got of this gosu named nony ill show him your games on tsl.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Chaos
Profile Joined July 2009
United States772 Posts
April 21 2010 13:51 GMT
#9
I understand exactly what you mean. I think there's still always going to be the group of people that truly appreciate BW. That elitist feeling should still be present with all of them I would think. So now you have everyone playing SC2, there's still two different groups. The original BW players that really followed/played it, and the people that just play SC2.

My opinion might not be the best though because even with a beta key I still play more BW than SC2 ^_^
FruitMarket
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
April 21 2010 13:51 GMT
#10
I felt the same way about MMA, watching it grow from the most underground of underground sports into its popularity today (you're all TUF Noobs =D). Then I realized that as it becomes bigger, so does the quality of the sport. There will be more money for the players and thus more good players, etc. I think it's a good thing.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
April 21 2010 14:18 GMT
#11
Well its certainly looking like the better bw and wc3 players are going to rape it up for at least a year. So you can still be pretty elitist.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 21 2010 14:21 GMT
#12
when was scbw like that? overlooked, underappreciated, yes. Underground? No.
Most WC3 players have at one point or another expressed their familiarity with the game, and even arenajunkies exploded with sc fans when beta came out.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
April 21 2010 14:28 GMT
#13
I feel completely different. I'm actually excited how everyone is talking about SC2. I've talked to people who have never played or really cared about SC getting really excited about SC2, people who don't even like RTS say that SC2 looks really cool, and upon hearing about how I still play SC, they're sometimes like "Hey I hear Korea treats it like a sport" and I'm like "YES I FOLLOW IT." I find it very exciting that everyone has already embraced the game, from the teamliquid community all the way to the random newbs that don't know what a zergling is

On April 21 2010 22:30 madnessman wrote:
I know what you mean. I hated how I always tried to convince my friends to appreciate starcraft. It seemed like everybody thought "lol why are you playing some shitty 10 year old game. the graphics suck."


I hear this quite a lot, but very close to 100% of the people I've talked to that play video games appreciate the greatness that is SC. Maybe not as much as the average TL poster, but most of them have played it, they've all had tons of fun with it, and although it's not their favourite game or they don't QUITE appreciate the intricacies of the game, they've had tons of fun with it in the past and completely understand how I love the game so much
Trucy Wright is hot
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
April 21 2010 14:45 GMT
#14
On April 21 2010 22:51 Chaos- wrote:
My opinion might not be the best though because even with a beta key I still play more BW than SC2 ^_^


I'm the same, after about a week of the beta I went back to playing mainly iccup, I win less in BW but still enjoy it more
Yhamm is the god of predictions
TheMunkey
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada470 Posts
April 21 2010 15:13 GMT
#15
Those who don't appreciate BW should be stuffed in a cubicle and try to get D+ on iccup.
Never give up
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
April 21 2010 15:49 GMT
#16
On April 21 2010 22:24 Keniji wrote:
The SC2 Beta is up and coming. Esport-athletes from all games are looking forward to it, even casual-gamers are interested and so is the media. Is it a good think? Most certainly yes.

And still, I don't like it all the time. I don't know why, but sometimes, I miss the elitist feeling of the "underground", the scene, the small amount of people (outside korea) who love this 10 year old game, who are still playing and watching it, who see the art in it.
The feeling that if you meet someone who knows BW and still watching it, you are on the same wavelength immediately. The feeling that you know he truly understands the genius of the game and after all, deserves it.

I know it probably is as stupid as saying "hey, I listened to this band/music way before it became popular" or even stopping listening to this music at all because of that.

Even tho I know that, when I'm in the subway watching the monitors displaying advertisement/news of ESL mostly with the contents of SC2, I sometimes get this nostalgic feeling, missing the elitist of SC/BW.



i totally agree. a part of me is interested in the game but a part of me doesnt want to let go of BW.
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Ginko
Profile Joined April 2010
Bangladesh69 Posts
April 21 2010 15:53 GMT
#17
On April 21 2010 22:38 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Well you can still cheer for all the former SC:BW players in SC2 =]

your my hero nony...
C Zerg 2008-2010 1v1 plat 2v2 plat,
buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
April 21 2010 16:01 GMT
#18
On April 21 2010 22:44 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 22:29 omninmo wrote:
well thank the activlizzard and its "esports team" and their "we just thought up a bunch of cool units with no thought about balance before hand. now we are trying to make it all work."


Uh what?

If you'd be one of the true oldschool players you'd realize how well balanced the game is so far, if you expected anything better than this then you sir are delusional.


Yeah... I've come to realize balance isn't everything... :/
ErOs_HalO
Profile Joined January 2010
United States167 Posts
April 21 2010 16:12 GMT
#19
SC2 won't ever give the same feeling BW gave to me. A looong time ago when I first figured out how to get my hands on all the progamer VOD's after I got cable high speed.. I remember watching xellos and boxer and nada play, on all these great old school maps.. and just wanting to get better and better! SC became a huge part of my life.. SC2 is never going to be able to do that unfortunately. T_T

I'll continue to play BW for the competitive side of it with friends, and probably play SC2 for the amazing UMS that will be comming out. :D
Pretty imaginitive, huh?
josemb40
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Peru611 Posts
April 21 2010 16:22 GMT
#20
damn u blizzard
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