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So I usually have a bad habit of not being able to control myself when it comes to eating food. I'm not fat, and have never been fat... I exercise and play sports and all that so that's never been an issue for me. The real issue though is just not being able to exercise self control when it comes to eating, so I decided this month to challenge myself.
I've made the following my goals:
- no red meat for the month of april
- no pasta or noodles for the month of april
- don't eat ice cream
- generally cut down on carbs
Those four things are probably my biggest vices when it come to eating, especially pasta. I eat insane amounts of pasta (my favorite food). For example, eating 3/4th of a pound of pasta in one sitting for me is absolutely no problem, and if I wanted I could probably finish off the whole 1lb package. And I usually eat pasta anywhere from 1-3 times per week, so you can see how much pasta I consume (a lot). Same thing with noodles.
Anyways so while the health benefits will (hopefully) be noticeable over this 1 month period, the interesting part for me is just the challenge of controlling myself enough to follow through. It's all part of a big long process of self improvement, and developing this skill is one of my biggest challenges. I figured starting off with food (relatively easy) would be a good start.
So far I've made it exactly 7 days and have kept my word. Tomorrow (well, today as I'm writing this blog) is day 8! Hope I can post an update at the end of the month and say I've kept my promise to myself.
  
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guh, i need to stop eating carbs too >__>
why is chicken at the market so expensive?!
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but food is sooooo good...
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Australia3316 Posts
Isn't it not so much cutting everything but balancing your diet, so reduce your carbs and red meat but increase fruit, veges etc.
EDIT: Also isn't the amount of food you eat proportional to the amount of physical activity you do?
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yea probably, but again it's mostly just a personal challenge rather than entirely being for health reasons. I mean, I eat fairly healthy in general, I don't particularly over-consume red meat nor do I gorge on ice cream and super fatty foods... I just want to see if I can build the self control necessary to stop myself from getting a scoop of ice cream or cooking pasta, etc.
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Yo what's with all the carb hate?
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Excess carbs will make you fat. I eat rice practically everyday, must cut down on it. Though, I have a nice supply of steak, chicken breast and lean turkey in the fridge, still have to get at least 1 bowl of rice a day. 
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Good luck! I have the same problem... so many excess carbs.
Just need to cut a little bit off to get ab muscles to show.
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On April 08 2010 16:36 Xeris wrote:
- no red meat for the month of april
You sir are crazy. No meat? Every meal I have has to have meat or it doesn't feel like an actual meal (mainly because I don't get full).
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dont carbs give you a large portion of your energy though?
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On April 08 2010 17:23 kOre wrote:You sir are crazy. No meat? Every meal I have has to have meat or it doesn't feel like an actual meal (mainly because I don't get full).
There are alternate sources of fat and protein (nuts, cheese, eggs) though I tend to agree they're less delicious than meat.
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What exactly is it about East Asian genetics which allows them to eat rice with every meal of every day and keep the build of an anorexic eleven year old Jewish girl from Brooklyn?
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On April 08 2010 17:31 zekie wrote:
dont carbs give you a large portion of your energy though?
Not true but that just depends on your daily intake. Fats and protein can provide enough energy for your body. You could just consume mostly protein every week and maybe dedicate 1 day to more carbs, it works well.
edit: Carbs arent essential but we tend consume a lot more than our body needs. Lay off the white bread and flour stuff(Guilty myself, Jasmine rice!).
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I seriously don't understand why you need to cut down on carbs unless you are having potato sandwiches, rice and pasta every single day. Your body needs them and yes you will lose weight if you stop eating them, but that is just the water going away that used to be in your muscles, no actual reduction in fat iirc.
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On April 08 2010 17:36 pubbanana wrote:
What exactly is it about East Asian genetics which allows them to eat rice with every meal of every day and keep the build of an anorexic eleven year old Jewish girl from Brooklyn?
I was grinning at your example, Im from BK. I know what your talking about. I think it has to do with the ratio of the type of food we consume daily. My family lived in a suburban area in China back then, the theory is relatively simple.
We consume more grains and vegetables than the American counterpart, which would probably have a much higher intake of meat in their diet.
edit: I guess its in our genes, we're just so adapt to the high carb/low fat diet(Isnt that the atkins diet or whatever its called?). Honestly though Im not even sure since that theory itself is flawed because it doesnt revolve around the more modern demographics.
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must... eat... ice cream...
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On April 08 2010 17:54 Disregard wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 17:36 pubbanana wrote:
What exactly is it about East Asian genetics which allows them to eat rice with every meal of every day and keep the build of an anorexic eleven year old Jewish girl from Brooklyn? I was grinning at your example, Im from BK. I know what your talking about. I think it has to do with the ratio of the type of food we consume daily. My family lived in a suburban area in China back then, the theory is relatively simple(Just some whacky theory my family came up with). We consume more grains and vegetables than the American counterpart, which would probably have a much higher intake of meat in their diet.
I eat a holy living fuckton of rice with my meals and I'm not fat, but I think this is because of a few factors:
1. My favourite meal is rice and fish and cabbage. That's it, I could eat this everyday, no problem. So most of my meals look similar to this - rice, some kind of fish, some kind of vegetable.
2. I don't use any condiments at all, no ketchup, no salt, no pepper, nothing. I've never developed a taste for them.
3. I don't eat sugar because I don't like sweets. Never have.
4. I only drink water, nothing else. Sometimes I might drink a Red Bull.
5. I can't really eat breakfast because I just don't feel like eating after I wake up, so I'll just eat a banana or an apple or something. Then I won't eat anything until the late afternoon.
6. I walk everywhere.
7. I have no self-esteem, so I'm constantly filled with self-hatred and this motivates to go to run on a treadmill at a fitness center sometimes.
I'm not Asian, I am German (as in, both of my parents are actual German-speaking German people, not Americans) but it seems like I've inherited their palette - both of my parents eat like this, too.
So yeah. 
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
WTF PUBAANAN IS GERMAN!??!
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On April 08 2010 17:43 Suc wrote:
I seriously don't understand why you need to cut down on carbs unless you are having potato sandwiches, rice and pasta every single day. Your body needs them and yes you will lose weight if you stop eating them, but that is just the water going away that used to be in your muscles, no actual reduction in fat iirc.
You are wrong. Learn why:
http://www.diabeteshealth.com/read/2007/04/24/5143/why-eating-too-many-carbs-makes-you-fat/
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On April 08 2010 17:54 Disregard wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 17:36 pubbanana wrote:
What exactly is it about East Asian genetics which allows them to eat rice with every meal of every day and keep the build of an anorexic eleven year old Jewish girl from Brooklyn? I was grinning at your example, Im from BK. I know what your talking about. I think it has to do with the ratio of the type of food we consume daily. My family lived in a suburban area in China back then, the theory is relatively simple(Just some whacky theory my family came up with). We consume more grains and vegetables than the American counterpart, which would probably have a much higher intake of meat in their diet.
I tend to suspect flour, butter, cream, and cheese are more responsible than meat. Meat is actually not all that calorie-dense.
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On April 08 2010 18:03 alffla wrote:
WTF PUBAANAN IS GERMAN!??!
Yep. Actually, I was born and raised in Suriname (a tiny little country in South America, former Dutch colony), but both of my parents are 100% German, they're not Dutch. We spoke German at home growing up.
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It's OK to cut down on fats and excessive carbs (sweets), but what's wrong with meat?
I always thought that meat with vegetables is the best diet possible.
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On April 08 2010 18:05 pubbanana wrote:Yep. Actually, I was born and raised in Suriname (a tiny little country in South America, former Dutch colony), but both of my parents are 100% German, they're not Dutch. We spoke German at home growing up.
hahaha omg i thought you were korean all along cuz you knew so much about the korean pro scene and have korean stuff all over  wow i never knew. haha holy crap mind blown
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"No XYZ" diets never work. In my opinion, it's stupid to even attempt such a thing.
Simply buy less of it and/or replace your normal consumption of it with something else.
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On April 08 2010 18:08 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 18:05 pubbanana wrote:On April 08 2010 18:03 alffla wrote:
WTF PUBAANAN IS GERMAN!??! Yep. Actually, I was born and raised in Suriname (a tiny little country in South America, former Dutch colony), but both of my parents are 100% German, they're not Dutch. We spoke German at home growing up. hahaha omg i thought you were korean all along cuz you knew so much about the korean pro scene and have korean stuff all over wow i never knew. haha holy crap mind blown
Well, I'm not Korean, I'm just amazing.
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On April 08 2010 18:03 alffla wrote:
WTF PUBAANAN IS GERMAN!??!
No you're thinking of boesthius
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On April 08 2010 17:13 Disregard wrote:Excess carbs will make you fat. I eat rice practically everyday, must cut down on it. Though, I have a nice supply of steak, chicken breast and lean turkey in the fridge, still have to get at least 1 bowl of rice a day.
carbs are energy. if you do not use it then you will get fat... FAT is inactivity incarnate.
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I've been on a ketogenic diet (0 carbohydrates) for the last 3 months and let me tell you it does work. I wasn't fat before, i wasn't even chubby, i was like 175lb (80kg) when i started, now i've lost between 10 and 12 kg of fat (20-24lb). carbohydrates are used by our bodies as our primary energy source, and you can stuff your face with them as much as you like but if you eat more than you burn in a day, it's turned to fat. you should by no means cut out red meat, this is a great protein source and your body needs it. in addition to that, meat is filling and will reduce the amount of carbohydrates you actually eat. if you stop eating carbohydrates or reduce the amount, your water retention decreases and you'll lose weight but it will be water. rice, potatoes, brown bread, wheat and such are low GI carbs, which means your body digests them slowly and that means the energy release is gradual, which means in term that your body has a supply of energy for a few hours after eating but also that you have a much greater chance of burning the energy than if you ate the same amount of carbohydrates in a high GI form, like sugar which is digested very rapidly and spikes your energy then converts to fat. you don't have to cut down on carbs if you're getting fat, you just need to cut down on overall calories and balance out your diet more.
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On April 08 2010 19:47 Sinep wrote:
I've been on a ketogenic diet (0 carbohydrates) for the last 3 months and let me tell you it does work. I wasn't fat before, i wasn't even chubby, i was like 175lb (80kg) when i started, now i've lost between 10 and 12 kg of fat (20-24lb). carbohydrates are used by our bodies as our primary energy source, and you can stuff your face with them as much as you like but if you eat more than you burn in a day, it's turned to fat. you should by no means cut out red meat, this is a great protein source and your body needs it. in addition to that, meat is filling and will reduce the amount of carbohydrates you actually eat. if you stop eating carbohydrates or reduce the amount, your water retention decreases and you'll lose weight but it will be water. rice, potatoes, brown bread, wheat and such are low GI carbs, which means your body digests them slowly and that means the energy release is gradual, which means in term that your body has a supply of energy for a few hours after eating but also that you have a much greater chance of burning the energy than if you ate the same amount of carbohydrates in a high GI form, like sugar which is digested very rapidly and spikes your energy then converts to fat. you don't have to cut down on carbs if you're getting fat, you just need to cut down on overall calories and balance out your diet more.
I can tell you this will kill you quicker than carbs. I am by no means an expert, but after a chapter in my Human Bio H. class, Let me tell you, this fucking destroys kidneys with toxic keytones, and a lot of weight loss you may have is body water. I have to go to school now, if this thread's still around I'll explain myself a little bit...
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the keytones that are produced aren't toxic and the diet is safe. the only long term health loss is the loss of a balanced diet. yes, I am fully aware that you lose water when you go on a 0 carbohydrate diet, and seem to have lost approximately 3-4kg of it, the fat loss I cited is taking into account that fact. a lot of people are scared of ketosis and ketogenic diets in general but really have no idea about the facts.
edit: also, if this were true that it kills you, none of us would be alive today as a lot our ancestors lived in ketosis because there was no source of carbohydrates around.
http://www.brianpeskin.com/reports/Ketosis.pdf this seems like a good scientific read
edit edit: this website offers some great insight, but is really wrong about the ketosis thing. it is quite easy to get into actually and ketosis strips do show this.. not sure where the facts for that came from.
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On April 08 2010 17:33 Severedevil wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 17:23 kOre wrote:On April 08 2010 16:36 Xeris wrote:
- no red meat for the month of april You sir are crazy. No meat? Every meal I have has to have meat or it doesn't feel like an actual meal (mainly because I don't get full). There are alternate sources of fat and protein (nuts, cheese, eggs) though I tend to agree they're less delicious than meat.
well he just said 'no red meat' so he can still eat chicken and fish (both very good sources of protein)
also nuts and eggs are superb food, they're packed with vitamins and minerals
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If you do sports/exercise w h y would you not eat food high on carbs? Maybe try transfats or something instead. Try cutting only icecream, you can cut down on noodles, but dont completely leave it out.
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Wait... you're not getting fat, you like eating, and you're gonna stop eating?
Why? What adverse health effects do you feel? (Besides the recent SC2 disease that has been making players quit SC1)
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Just maintain a calorie deficit, work out, and eat less carbs. EZPZ.
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I haven't eaten red meat in 1 and 1/2 years.
I don't eat any pork either unless I go to a world famous barbeque place in my hometown, which I realize is self serving, but I'm okay with that because not eating pork anywhere else is enough to make me feel better about myself/ my beliefs.
I'm trying right now to intake minimal caffeine, which includes chocolate. I'll only eat chocolate if my girlfriend and I order a dessert with it. I''ve also been soda free for 2 weeks.
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On April 08 2010 16:36 Xeris wrote:
I've made the following my goals:
- no red meat for the month of april
- no pasta or noodles for the month of april
- don't eat ice cream
I can't comply with any of those. Good luck to you.
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On April 08 2010 21:55 StRyKeR wrote:
Wait... you're not getting fat, you like eating, and you're gonna stop eating?
Why? What adverse health effects do you feel? (Besides the recent SC2 disease that has been making players quit SC1)
I feel no adverse health effects aside from me not having a 6 pack or something (lol). Again, it's not really for health reasons, but more just to see if I can actually do it !
It's like having a really hot girl naked in front of me and training my penis not to have sex with her. I'm single. Why wouldn't I want to? The point is just some kind of mental training really, no other particular reason.
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"generally cut down on carbs" is a bad goal because it's very vague.
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On April 08 2010 18:06 Rofllisk wrote:
It's OK to cut down on fats and excessive carbs (sweets), but what's wrong with meat?
I always thought that meat with vegetables is the best diet possible. Meat is fine, it's red meat that most people are usually advised to avoid since it has a shitload of saturated fat (it's recommended that if you eat red meat, that you only eat a portion the size of a deck of playing cards once a day, but many people eat more than that just for lunch). Eating a good amount of chicken and fish is perfectly fine though.
Also, you don't really "need" carbs in your body, but replacing them with complex carbs (brown rice instead of white rice, whole wheat bread instead of white bread, cutting out sugar, etc.) would probably show more benefits than just cutting them out almost completely.
Edit: and Xeris, that's a really bad analogy if you want to get us to understand why you're doing this
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you can actually still enjoy lean red meat like top sirloin and what not. (lean=no fat)
chicken breasts aren't too bad when grilled. or you can try grilled mackerel which is tasty too.
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Be warned that succeeding in personal challenges just makes it easier to justify the previous habits in the future.
Like when I stopped drinking for about a year. Now when I'm on beer number eight on a Wednesday night sitting in my ginch watching Idol I'm like, "whatever, I can stop drinking if I want." Then beer nine is cracked and a single tear slides down my cheek - a solemn representation of what could have been.
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Canada9720 Posts
never stop (drinking), flaccid
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im on a low carb high fat diet
keep it up!
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
fuck diets ! :D
EATING 4 LYF
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just eat a lot of veggies~
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The article you linked to only tells half the story. The only danger is in eating too many carbohydrates that are going to break down and release a lot of glucose into the body quickly. There are plenty of forms of carbohydrates, such as wholemeal pastas and breads, oatmeal, lots of types of beans etc., that won't spike your insulin levels.
Also, different people have different dietary needs. Some people are better off having more carbs than protein, for others it's the other way around. It's a complex issue and the article is very misleading.
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carbs are one of the purest source of energy you can eat. Reduce fat but don't reduce carbs!
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calories make u fat not carbs
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About the pasta, do you eat whole-wheat pasta? If I do it the other kind, I can eat as much as you can, but with whole wheat I can eat only about half.
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I did something similar one day. I decided to drink nothing but water for 1 week (used to drink a lot of soda). I succeded and now I drink water every day + juice and tea. I haven't drank soda in about 7 months (only at a party once)
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I'm soda-free as well. I don't know if this will help but my diet is with little carb consumption, mostly veggies and good portion of meat whenever I work out. Seems to work so far...
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This is the best post in the entire thread.
I have to eat bacon and eggs in the morning cooked in butter and smothered with cheese every morning, drink heavy cream, and eat foods like ribeye and pork belly for health reasons.
Cultures that eat this natural human diet (ie. high satured fat, moderate protein, low carb) are free of things like allergies, colds, bowel issues, diabetes, cancer, etc.
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