• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:58
CET 18:58
KST 02:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly1Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION3Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams12
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four
Tourneys
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Kirktown Chat Brawl #9 $50 8:30PM EST
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw on 'Experimental' Nonstandard Maps in ASL Ladder Map Matchup Stats SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review Map pack for 3v3/4v4/FFA games BW General Discussion
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
What is "Original Sin"?
Peanutsc
Challenge: Maths isn't all…
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1577 users

OSL Predictions Blog

Blogs > flamewheel91
Post a Reply
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 05:26:55
March 28 2010 04:18 GMT
#1
Hi guys,

So reading through blogs, I was inspired by Jalstar's MSL Prediction Thread (and spent an ungodly amount of time making my MSL predictions... oh well lazy Saturdays for the win) so I thought I'd go ahead and make the one for OSL predictions.

The Round of 16 format is round robin, with each player playing the others once. The two people with the best record move onto the round of 8. In the case of a tie, say two players both get a 2-1 record, then they play a head-to-head Bo3 tiebreaker match in order to determine who moves on.

Hmm so edited:
At first I wanted to do it like the MSL one and make it go all the way to the finals, then I learn afterward that Ro8 is random. Oops? So in order to make this not an entirely fail blog (just like 80% fail) Ro16 predictions instead ^.^

+ Show Spoiler [My predictions] +
Group A:
(T)Flash 3:0
(Z)Kwanro 2:1
(P)Kal 1:2
(Z)hyvaa 0:3
+ Show Spoiler [Reasoning behind Group A] +
(T)Flash is pretty much unstoppable right now, and while I could possibly see (Z)Kwanro or (P)Kal taking the game from him, that's a small possibility. Sorry (P)Kal, but I do get the feeling that you're going to get Kwanrolled... in a Bo1 game there's no point for (Z)Kwanro to play conservatively, so I expect him to all-in (P)Kal to death. (Z)hyvaa, of these four (who (T)Flash adamantly wanted in this group haha) is just going to give wins away.


Group B:
(P)Stork 3:0
(T)Hwasin 2:1
(P)Movie 1:2
(T)BaBy 0:3
+ Show Spoiler [Reasoning behind Group B] +
Even with all of the hype about (T)BaBy's recent TvZ, unfortunately for him there isn't a single zerg in this group. That being said, (T)BaBy's TvP and TvT are both subpar, being 24-28 (46.15%) and 25-28 (47.17%) respectively. Compare this to (P)Stork's ~65% PvT winrate, and (T)BaBy's got one loss right off the bat. For (P)Movie versus (T)Hwasin, with both their respective match ups being under 50%, I'm not expecting any too-stellar matches, and they've never gone head to head either. To further the confusion, both (T)Hwasin and (P)Movie have recently not been doing so hot. However, as long as (T)Hwasin remembers to siege his tanks, I think he'll take this one over (P)Movie. (P)Stork will also take a win over (P)Movie in their PvP: (P)Stork is both statistically much better at the match up and also is 2-0 over (P)Movie. To round out this round robin, both (P)Movie and (T)Hwasin will win over (T)BaBy on the grounds that (T)BaBy's TvP and TvT are both, again, terrible.


Group C:
(Z)Calm 2:1
(Z)ZerO 2:1
(T)fantasy 1:2
(P)Pure 1:2
(Z)Calm > (Z)ZerO in tiebreaker Bo3
+ Show Spoiler [Reasoning behind Group C] +
(Z)Calm will start off with a pretty easy win, using the power of "imba" that resides in ZvP to walk over (P)Pure's mediocre PvZ. (T)fantasy and (Z)ZerO are both good at their respective match ups, and are 1-1 head-to-head, with (T)fantasy having the recent win. In recent matches, ZerO is 7-3 in his last 10 ZvTs while (T)fantasy is 6-4 in his last 10 TvZs. Just because I can, I'll give the win to (Z)ZerO since I really can't decide. (T)fantasy versus (P)Pure should be a pretty good match, since (P)Pure and (T)fantasy are both at about 63% winrate for that match up, and (T)fantasy having a bare lead in the head-to-head, being up 3-2. In this situation though, I'll give (P)Pure the win simply for the hell of it. However, (P)Pure's ZvP will knock him out of this OSL.: (Z)ZerO will take him out with his sexy ZvP to put (P)Pure at 1:2, and (Z)Calm will take out (Z)ZerO in the ZvZ. But when it comes time for (Z)Calm to face (T)fantasy, Clam will emerge and (T)fantasy will take the win. This puts (Z)Calm and (Z)ZerO at 2-1 respectively, so both will advance, but the tiebreaker will determine who is to be the #1 seed for the group and who is to be the #2, and once again (Z)Calm will defeat (Z)ZerO in the Bo3 ZvZ that ensues. Oh, and I'm not too sure about how that would work, but if it comes down to (Z)Calm having beaten (Z)ZerO to obtain his 2-1, then he'd be #1 seed anyway right?


Group D:
(T)fOrGG 3:0
(T)go.go 2:1
(Z)Shine 1:2
(Z)EffOrt 0:3
+ Show Spoiler [Reasoning behind Group D] +
(T)fOrGG is damn good at TvZ, at a 68.13%. However, (Z)EffOrt the alien is also good at ZvT, with a 63.54% winrate. However, (Z)EffOrt has lost his last 8 ZvTs... so (T)fOrGG starts off with an easy win. When it comes time, (T)go.go with his 63.83% TvZ winrate will also beat a slumping (Z)EffOrt. The only game I see (Z)EffOrt winning would be his ZvZ against (Z)Shine, but (Z)Shine has a recent (Z)Win over (Z)EffOrt, a better recent ZvZ record, and a 2-0 head-to-head. Sadly, I see (Z)EffOrt going home in his spaceship with an 0-3 record. The TvT between (T)go.go and (T)fOrGG should be interesting, ((T)fOrGG has won the (T)Only head-to-head they've placed) though (T)go.go has 7 out of 10 of his last TvTs, with the wins coming from lesser Terrans such as (T)Notice (who still knocked him out of the MST) and (T)RuBy, so I'll give this to (T)fOrGG. (T)fOrGG and (T)go.go will also take both take out (Z)Shine, giving (T)fOrGG a 3-0 pass to the Ro8 and a 2-1 ticket for (T)go.go.



****
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
zealing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada806 Posts
March 28 2010 04:25 GMT
#2
IdrA didn't get in so im not watching
Think you got lag? It took Jesus 3 days to respawn.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
March 28 2010 04:38 GMT
#3
Round of 8 is a Bo3 with the #1 of a group facing off against the #2 of another group. (Oops, kind of hard to predict with it being random... Sorry, didn't think about that little part before going ahead with this, had assumed there was going to be some order)


lol worst. blog. ever. ^^
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 04:41:02
March 28 2010 04:39 GMT
#4
On March 28 2010 13:38 Newguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
Round of 8 is a Bo3 with the #1 of a group facing off against the #2 of another group. (Oops, kind of hard to predict with it being random... Sorry, didn't think about that little part before going ahead with this, had assumed there was going to be some order)


lol worst. blog. ever. ^^


Yeah, kind of is ^.^v
Changed it to just Ro16 though.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 05:56:36
March 28 2010 05:56 GMT
#5

+ Show Spoiler +
Group A:
(T)Flash 3:0
(P)Kal 2:1
(Z)Kwanro 1:2
(Z)hyvaa 0:3
Flash and Kal are the two best players in this group. Kwanro has a shot, hyvaa does not.


Group B:
(P)Stork 2:1
(P)Movie 2:1
(T)BaBy 1:2
(T)Hwasin 1:2
This group is wide open, except for Stork, who you'd imagine would have no trouble with two terrans in his group. Movie is a real wild care though, and I think he can sneak through this group, possibly by sniping a (then) 2-0 Stork. But BaBy and Hwasin are equally capable. This will be a fun group to watch.

Group C:
(T)fantasy 3:0
(Z)ZerO 2:1
(P)Pure 1:2
(Z)Clam 0:3
This is the group of death, with three players worthy of the Round of 8. fantasy should win this group handily. If anyone beats fantasy though, they'll likely take the other spot in the group. ZerO is better than Calm, and Pure is the odd man out here, if he advances, it'll only be because the other players didn't practice for a P.

Group D:
(Z)EffOrt 3:0
(T)go.go 2:1
(T)fOrGG 2:1
(Z)Shine 0:3
EffOrt can't keep playing terribly forever, can he? If the EffOrt we're used to seeing shows up, then this group (the easiest of the bunch) is his by a large margin. If the EffOrt of recent shows up, this could go to anyone. My hunch is that the long break and the necessity of practicing for terrans should help EffOrt get back on his game. But maybe I'm just being too optimistic. go.go has a habit of sneaking through these groups, I could see him doing it again. forGG isn't good. I actually think Shine will probably grab a spot here, but I hate Shine, so I've put him last.

ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 28 2010 06:51 GMT
#6
I agree with treehuggers predictions, acknowledging that group C is the hardest to predict. Fantasy should win it, but I wouldnt be suprised by anyone taking the other spot.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 28 2010 06:58 GMT
#7
Random? Usually it's like A1 vs D2, D1 vs A2, etc (or something like that).
Administrator
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 07:12:11
March 28 2010 07:11 GMT
#8
On March 28 2010 15:58 SonuvBob wrote:
Random? Usually it's like A1 vs D2, D1 vs A2, etc (or something like that).


I originally thought something was like that, since MSL does the A1 vs E2, A2 vs E1, etc.
Haha my friend was like "It's OSL they do whatever the fuck the want?"
Looking at last year's R+S thread though, last year (Z)Jaedong (A1) did play (T)Flash (D2), but (P)Movie (A2) fought against (Z)ZerO (B1) instead of (P)Stork (D1), so that confused me a bit.

It actually ended up like
A1 (Z)Jaedong vs D2 (T)Flash
B2 (P)Pure vs C1 (Z)Calm
A2 (P)Movie vs B1 (Z)ZerO
D1 (P)Stork cs C2 (Z)Shine

Looking at Bacchus 2009,
A1 (Z)YellOw[ArnC] vs C2 (T)go.go
B2 (Z)type-b vs D1 (T)Leta
B1 (T)fantasy vs D2 (T)Canata
A2 (Z)Jaedong vs C1 (Z)ZerO

So this confused me even further, since I was like wait what where is the pattern?

So yeah... couldn't find any pattern other than the 1 seed in a group will play the 2 seed from another group. Makes it hard to predict stuff T_T
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 28 2010 07:51 GMT
#9
OSL does random draws for the Ro8, yes.
Phearlock
Profile Joined December 2007
Norway400 Posts
March 28 2010 07:53 GMT
#10
Yeah I don't disagree with any of these. Though as you said some of matches are hard to call and there may be some slight upsets if a player fails to bring his A-game at any one point.

This OSL does look very decent for showing some awesome games however =)
(really hoping group C doesn't dissapoint)
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
March 28 2010 08:43 GMT
#11
My prediction is simple: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

He will win this and finally secure the b..... title
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-28 10:36:48
March 28 2010 10:36 GMT
#12
Flash
Kwanro

Stork
BaBy

Fantasy
Zero

ForGG
Effort
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
March 28 2010 18:32 GMT
#13
Predicting forGG 3-0? You got to be kidding.
:]
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:00
Monday Night Weekly #29
RotterdaM699
TKL 269
IndyStarCraft 148
BRAT_OK 115
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 699
TKL 269
IndyStarCraft 148
BRAT_OK 115
UpATreeSC 78
Codebar 57
MindelVK 31
ZombieGrub3
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 288
Mong 89
Rock 45
Dota 2
qojqva3121
420jenkins379
BananaSlamJamma188
XcaliburYe181
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1461
byalli432
kRYSTAL_41
Other Games
singsing2086
FrodaN1586
Lowko460
ceh9393
Liquid`VortiX257
Fuzer 184
ArmadaUGS167
C9.Mang094
QueenE83
Trikslyr56
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick658
Counter-Strike
PGL356
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 31
• Adnapsc2 8
• Reevou 2
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV519
League of Legends
• Jankos3009
Other Games
• imaqtpie635
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 2m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
16h 2m
WardiTV Korean Royale
18h 2m
LAN Event
21h 2m
Replay Cast
1d 15h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 18h
LAN Event
1d 21h
OSC
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
LAN Event
4 days
IPSL
5 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
LAN Event
5 days
IPSL
6 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.