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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
February 23 2010 08:02 GMT
#1
Sigh, just a minor rant. For the most part I try to ignore sexism on the internet. Anonymity is a wonderful thing, and lets me game just fine for the most part. But every once in a while something happens that just irks me...

So I hop on TL and check the streams. Orb, a friend of mine from highschool is streaming some 1v1 action in SC2. I hop on vent, join his channel, and ask if he wants to do some 2v2's. I can apparently be heard on the stream. The reaction to my sudden appearance is frustrating. I should really remember to turn off the damned chat window on those streams...

"Woah who's the female?"
"She sounds fat."
"Wait who's the girl?"
"Girls don't play starcraft."
"That girl shows up on several TL streams"
"What's she look like?"
"Pictures?"
"She's probably just an attention whore"
"LOL girl playing SC must be ugly"
"Girls only play games to get male attention."
"Is she any good?"
"Wait who's the chick?"
"cam whore prolly"

etc etc etc...

Ugh. I play lots of different video games because I ENJOY them. And I could probably kick your ass in quite a few of them as well. Not as some gimmick to get attention, but because they're fun. I like the challenge, the speed, the strategy, etc. I play these games for the same reasons you do!

And why bring up my appearance? What the shit does that have to do with anything? I'm no supermodel, but I'm far from some cloistered fatty, ugh. There is so much importance placed on female looks in the real world, and now I have to deal with it on the internet? While trying to play SC2? As resilient as I am to that sort of thing, YES I get self conscious.

Sometimes it really sucks being one of the only girls in a group. This collective attitude is one of the reasons there are so few girls in gaming in the first place. It just feels like there's too much expected of us. I go to local events worrying about my appearance, as retarded as that is. I even *know* it's stupid, but I still can't help but worry a bit. No, I'm not gorgeous, but I'll kick your ass in SC2. Why can't that be good enough?

Ugh, it's just frustrating that it all affects me like it does, even when I'm conscious of it. I watch these other streams and people are all commenting on the player's ability and skill at the game, not their presumed appearance. Just.... grrr

****
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-23 08:06:34
February 23 2010 08:06 GMT
#2
I think people are put off by female gamers because a lot of them frankly are attention whores. Nothing annoys me more than some girl yapping off about how "she can play wit da boizzz" and she's a "gurrrrlll gamer" and "i can beat my bf at halo lol omg <3"

At the same time. I feel sorry for girls who aren't taken seriously because of those annoying bitches. I don't give a fuck who you are, where you're from, what gender/sexuality/whatever you may be, shut up and play the game.

I know quite a few legit female gamers and they hate the GURRRL GAMERZ just as much as anyone else.

However, don't expect internet gaming pubs to be full of anything but retards, hyper-sexual 14 year olds, and sexists. Here is a good example of how shitty gaming pubs can be:



You should start playing MMO's. You will get a ton of free shit.
RIP Aaliyah
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
February 23 2010 08:07 GMT
#3
Just mask your voice by talking all manly.

But really, don't worry about what dumb kids say. Girls who play video games are cool, much better than playing dolls and having tea parties or whatever it is the rest of you do.
Hot77.iEy
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Finland1486 Posts
February 23 2010 08:12 GMT
#4
use this: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/arnold
-.-
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
February 23 2010 08:14 GMT
#5
Yeah, I was watching you two play. People are dicks when they can be anonymous Don't let them discourage you. Haters gonna hate
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11595 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-23 08:18:34
February 23 2010 08:14 GMT
#6
lol don't worry, all the DC/VA/MD guys don't think you're an attention whore. We know you're not fat, we know you're far from ugly, and we love you! Don't ever worry about your appearance, especially when you come to a LAN. We do not judge!

edit: Well I might judge because of this you said:
I play lots of different video games


you better not be having an affair on SC!

just yankin your chair there
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 23 2010 08:17 GMT
#7
On February 23 2010 17:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I think people are put off by female gamers because a lot of them frankly are attention whores. Nothing annoys me more than some girl yapping off about how "she can play wit da boizzz" and she's a "gurrrrlll gamer" and "i can beat my bf at halo lol omg <3"

At the same time. I feel sorry for girls who aren't taken seriously because of those annoying bitches. I don't give a fuck who you are, where you're from, what gender/sexuality/whatever you may be, shut up and play the game.

I know quite a few legit female gamers and they hate the GURRRL GAMERZ just as much as anyone else.

However, don't expect internet gaming pubs to be full of anything but retards, hyper-sexual 14 year olds, and sexists. Here is a good example of how shitty gaming pubs can be:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6TzAKOaWxg

You should start playing MMO's. You will get a ton of free shit.

Pretty much this.
Keep in mind who your audience is as well : sexually-frustrated men who look to "hang out with the guys" and what not. Its pretty much just easy for men to bandwagon onto either hating a girl, or ogling her online.
Sucks -_-.
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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
February 23 2010 08:19 GMT
#8
Hmmm I dunno, but back when I played various MMO's (serious enough to be guild officer and on vent 24/7 and etc.) all girls in guild were appreciated and well treated, not overly-well treated but like you know, with as much as respect for "another gamer". Of course sometimes guys on vent would be flirty but that's probably natural anywhere, not just in gaming space?
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33581 Posts
February 23 2010 08:20 GMT
#9
On February 23 2010 17:14 CaucasianAsian wrote:
lol don't worry, all the DC/VA/MD guys don't think you're an attention whore. We know you're not fat, we know you're far from ugly, and we love you! Don't ever worry about your appearance, especially when you come to a LAN. We do not judge!
just yankin your chair there


If you've stated your opinion on her appearances, haven't you already judged =o?
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
February 23 2010 08:21 GMT
#10
haha is livestream chat worse or is youtube worse?
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Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
February 23 2010 08:21 GMT
#11
i honestly think there should be more girls playing video games. for one, i can talk to a girl about stuff im well informed about rather than stuff im clearing bullshitting
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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11595 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-23 08:22:24
February 23 2010 08:22 GMT
#12
On February 23 2010 17:20 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 17:14 CaucasianAsian wrote:
lol don't worry, all the DC/VA/MD guys don't think you're an attention whore. We know you're not fat, we know you're far from ugly, and we love you! Don't ever worry about your appearance, especially when you come to a LAN. We do not judge!
just yankin your chair there


If you've stated your opinion on her appearances, haven't you already judged =o?


it's not an opinion.
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Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-23 08:23:04
February 23 2010 08:22 GMT
#13
same reason half the people who dont play games thinks that everyone who plays video games is a fat nerd loser
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
February 23 2010 08:23 GMT
#14
Don't let it get to you. A large percentage of any newer game's online population are going to be socially inept adolescents. If you were a guy who wasn't already in their "circle" they would probably just call you a fag instead. I like to believe reputable members of any gaming or esports community are going to be the ones that take their relationships with the people they play with seriously.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-23 08:42:41
February 23 2010 08:31 GMT
#15
On February 23 2010 17:22 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 17:20 Waxangel wrote:
On February 23 2010 17:14 CaucasianAsian wrote:
lol don't worry, all the DC/VA/MD guys don't think you're an attention whore. We know you're not fat, we know you're far from ugly, and we love you! Don't ever worry about your appearance, especially when you come to a LAN. We do not judge!
just yankin your chair there


If you've stated your opinion on her appearances, haven't you already judged =o?


it's not an opinion.

Good save.

On topic, I think DH covered the issue pretty well. Gaming communities see enough drama queens (or "GURRRL GAMERZ" as DH so eloquently put) that a stigma against female gamers builds up. In some sense, the stigma builds on itself: the stereotyping drives away non-attention-whoring female gamers, meaning that the only exposure those communities gets to female gamers is with the drama queens, further entrenching their ideas.

This even has made itself evident on TL several times: when a self-professed girl gamer shows up with a blog announcing such @ less than 20 posts, people get skeptical. They think "Zia". They think they're being trolled. And so, they mount the typical response of playing with the troll with such responses.

For the most part, I think you've avoided this stigmatism on TL, largely because I can't remember a discussion where your gender has actually come up. It's unfortunate that anonymity has to act as the armor for your dignity, but given how that works for lots of things on the internet (not just gender, but in certain cases race, sexual orientation, political leanings, etc.), it's kind of par for the course.
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
February 23 2010 08:43 GMT
#16
wtf you're a chick?

i had no idea O_O
Happiness only real when shared.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-23 08:48:56
February 23 2010 08:48 GMT
#17
nobody with half a brain cares what organ is dangling (or not dangling) from your crotch when we're playing video games over the internet

i realize it is difficult to have a decidedly apathetic opinion on the matter when you are the subject, but you still gotta realize that nobody with half a brain cares and neither should you
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
February 23 2010 08:50 GMT
#18
On February 23 2010 17:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody with half a brain cares what organ is dangling (or not dangling) from your crotch when we're playing video games over the internet

i realize it is difficult to have a decidedly apathetic opinion on the matter when you are the subject, but you still gotta realize that nobody with half a brain cares and neither should you

You assume that the internet is made up of people with half a brain.
yes.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 23 2010 08:50 GMT
#19
i would definitely suggest telling these people they are stupid though
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 23 2010 08:51 GMT
#20
On February 23 2010 17:50 DeathSpank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2010 17:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody with half a brain cares what organ is dangling (or not dangling) from your crotch when we're playing video games over the internet

i realize it is difficult to have a decidedly apathetic opinion on the matter when you are the subject, but you still gotta realize that nobody with half a brain cares and neither should you

You assume that the internet is made up of people with half a brain.


collectively, perhaps!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
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