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Why are so many people convinced SC1 is gonna die?

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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 19 2010 05:06 GMT
#1
I mean, we don't even know how good of a game SC2 is, or is going to be, and nor do we really know if its going to be jumped on by the esports industry. I haven't played it, but from ythe streams so far it looks like any other RTS; decent, but not genius like SC1.

If it turns out to be fantastic like BW was, I could see how brood war might die out. Otherwise, it will just fade away in a year or two, and honestly I don't see KeSPA or any of the top Korean pros instantly leaving BW to go straight to SC2, and with a loyal fanbase both in Korea and seen in places like our very own TL, there will still be a strong community left for BroodWar.

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JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
February 19 2010 05:12 GMT
#2
Depends on what you mean by dying. There might not be much money tournies outside korea anymore, but surely you'll find plenty people to play against in any case.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11583 Posts
February 19 2010 05:13 GMT
#3
after a couple years, 3 at most, it will be as dead as starcraft original (not broodwar) is today
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
February 19 2010 05:15 GMT
#4
I don't even care if SC2 is amazing, i WILL keep playing SC as well, maybe not as much i'm playing it right now, but SC has been a part of me for nearly 11 years, i grew up playing that game.
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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
February 19 2010 05:16 GMT
#5
I think people (such as myself) are more just worried that bw will die and are just voicing their opinions.

But ya, sc2 looks like any new rts, cool but not bw amazing. I am convinced once the hype of sc2 dies down more and more people will return to bw again.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 19 2010 05:18 GMT
#6
I don't think it'll die out instantly, but certainly the whole point of SC2 is to replace and update BW... I know people have strong ties to SCBW, but change can be a good thing.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
February 19 2010 05:20 GMT
#7
Everyone is just gonna play the SC1 custom UMS maps on SC2..problem solved..BROOD WAR SHALL LIVE ON FOREVER!
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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
February 19 2010 05:27 GMT
#8
You will really just have to wait and see.
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druj
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
137 Posts
February 19 2010 05:28 GMT
#9
I'm pretty sure it will continue to have a niche, like many old games currently do. (CS 1.6, WC3, super smash bros melee, street fighter 3rd strike, etc.)
Once you play starcraft, everything else in life seems alot easier.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
February 19 2010 05:33 GMT
#10
Just look it from this side: iccup has like 30% less people playing because of beta. Plus everything dies at some point.
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Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
February 19 2010 05:36 GMT
#11
SC: BW > SC2
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gumbum8
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States721 Posts
February 19 2010 05:37 GMT
#12
BW dies, SC2 is born. We have nothing but hope to cling to that SC2 can be what we all want it to be, but until then I think a certain degree of worry is justified.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 19 2010 06:17 GMT
#13
SC BW will begin to die imo. SC2 looks fucking amazing
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
February 19 2010 06:17 GMT
#14
Broodwar wont die, but the size of the scene will be much smaller.
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
February 19 2010 06:17 GMT
#15
The problem that you guys are not realizing is that right now, we have a close community(teamliquid), competitive tourneys(TSL), compeititive ladder(iccup), progaming scene(korea) and the perfect game that's balanced for all three races. Why the fuk do we need a new game to take ppl away from the awesomeness we already have? I say they jsut scrap this like they did with starcraft ghost. The only thing sc2 did was bring sponsors to help our community and find comedic characters like Toad.

It's true that they brought back old gamers, but they are players who never played the game long enough to truely experience the greatness of starcraft to really know anything. I get so tired of hearing ppl go "i cant wait till sc2 comes out blah blah" and most of the ppl that say this are casual gamers for bw and suck at it to begin with.

Hardcore bw fans that have been there since the beginnning of the boxer reign with his amazing marine micro vs lurkers but had no macro or the "innovation" era where the game wasn't "as figured out" and allowed players more room for creativity, to the oov era of macro becuz maps allowed them to fast expand quickly(unlike lost temple which had a cliff at the nat so you couldnt take ur expo immediately in fear that the cliff might have two tanks :p)into the modern day "everything has to be perfect" era(micro/macro/strategy/game sense etc). Even the foreigner scene - the mondragon+testie era dominating the foreigner scene for the longest time until testie quit. Now it's Ret/NonY and IdrA. How can those people who only came back to sc bw to "prepare for sc2" really understand the history and attachment the true fans have for this game? They dont knwo a dam thing about sc bw and how awsome of a game it already is to voice any kind of opinon. To them it's just an old game that they dont care about becuz it's too hard for them so they just got on their xbox and played halo. lol gimme a break..

I'm not saying im a great player either but I played enough to appreciate this game and have a ton of respect for it and just disappointed that a new game will take away so many ppl. I should say might as we don't know how successful sc2 will be. Anyways I'm just gonna end it here before it gets too long.
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 19 2010 06:18 GMT
#16
On February 19 2010 14:20 Megalisk wrote:
Everyone is just gonna play the SC1 custom UMS maps on SC2..problem solved..BROOD WAR SHALL LIVE ON FOREVER!

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Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
February 19 2010 06:19 GMT
#17
@Marine23: Well said man. I really could not agree more. =\
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
February 19 2010 06:20 GMT
#18
On February 19 2010 15:17 MaRiNe23 wrote:
The problem that you guys are not realizing is that right now, we have a close community(teamliquid), competitive tourneys(TSL), compeititive ladder(iccup), progaming scene(korea) and the perfect game that's balanced for all three races. Why the fuk do we need a new game to take ppl away from the awesomeness we already have? I say they jsut scrap this like they did with starcraft ghost. The only thing sc2 did was bring sponsors to help our community and find comedic characters like Toad.

It's true that they brought back old gamers, but they are players who never played the game long enough to truely experience the greatness of starcraft to really know anything. I get so tired of hearing ppl go "i cant wait till sc2 comes out blah blah" and most of the ppl that say this are casual gamers for bw and suck at it to begin with.

Hardcore bw fans that have been there since the beginnning of the boxer reign with his amazing marine micro vs lurkers but had no macro or the "innovation" era where the game wasn't "as figured out" and allowed players more room for creativity, to the oov era of macro becuz maps allowed them to fast expand quickly(unlike lost temple which had a cliff at the nat so you couldnt take ur expo immediately in fear that the cliff might have two tanks :p)into the modern day "everything has to be perfect" era(micro/macro/strategy/game sense etc). Even the foreigner scene - the mondragon+testie era dominating the foreigner scene for the longest time until testie quit. Now it's Ret/NonY and IdrA. How can those people who only came back to sc bw to "prepare for sc2" really understand the history and attachment the true fans have for this game? They dont knwo a dam thing about sc bw and how awsome of a game it already is to voice any kind of opinon. To them it's just an old game that they dont care about becuz it's too hard for them so they just got on their xbox and played halo. lol gimme a break..

I'm not saying im a great player either but I played enough to appreciate this game and have a ton of respect for it and just disappointed that a new game will take away so many ppl. I should say might as we don't know how successful sc2 will be. Anyways I'm just gonna end it here before it gets too long.


Agreeed.

All you people so willing to ditch BW absolutely fucking disgust me. I'm sticking with BW ty very much I don't need another game to play this one is enough. Fucking Blizzard trying to split up our community.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
February 19 2010 06:20 GMT
#19
I also hope some genius makes an amazing UMS game like someone on WC3 created DotA, so that majority of the large SC2 population only play that popular UMS map, creating a higher chance to make SC2 1:1 not as popular as Brood War ^-^
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
February 19 2010 06:22 GMT
#20
Obviously because people will switch from sc1 to sc2 so the population of people still playing sc1 on a regular basis will be much smaller.

Likewise any type of money in terms of tourneys and sponsored teams will be for sc2 and not sc1.
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