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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 07 2010 06:56 GMT
#21
On February 07 2010 15:37 Glaucus wrote:
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On February 07 2010 14:49 Boblion wrote:
When will you stop to troll every thread ?


Ever heard of Videla or Ceausescu? They don't set a very good example. It's not surprising they run iccup in a similar manner.

Insulting iccup admins is not trolling btw. I didn't start this thread btw. One of my posts is 10x the quality of yours. Stop with this nonsense. You didn't agree with me about something. Get over it.

rofl okay buddy.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 11:07:25
February 07 2010 10:57 GMT
#22
On February 07 2010 15:37 Glaucus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 14:49 Boblion wrote:
When will you stop to troll every thread ?


Ever heard of Videla or Ceausescu? They don't set a very good example. It's not surprising they run iccup in a similar manner.

Insulting iccup admins is not trolling btw. I didn't start this thread btw. One of my posts is 10x the quality of yours. Stop with this nonsense. You didn't agree with me about something. Get over it.

On February 07 2010 14:29 Glaucus wrote:
Most of them are from countries where ethics are lowly developed.

Yea that was a quality post bro.
Like if the behaviour of an admin has something to do with his country.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
February 07 2010 11:13 GMT
#23
I once got banned on iCCup totally randomly. I played a few games, went AFK, came back and couldn't login anymore.

I checked iCCup for any complaints against me, and when I found none, I started asking around for the reason of my ban. I contaced like 3 iCCup admins, 2 of them were total douchebags who wouldn't listen to me, and just assumed I had done something wrong and thus ignored me. Third one I contacted was nicer though, he checked the adminboards or w/e and came back to me saying: ''You are indeed banned, but I have no idea why. o_O'' And then he removed my ban.

It was a scary day. Anyways, iCCup often screams fail when they issue bans it seem.
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
February 07 2010 12:37 GMT
#24
On February 07 2010 14:52 meeple wrote:
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On February 07 2010 13:58 SnowFantasy wrote:
Mai-k isn't a girl.

good god, I know his avatar is a girl but he is definitely not a girl. You are possibly thinking of 2easy.

It's ok. A lot of iccup users think he is a girl.


Really damn... I look like a fool



Not really, the real fool is that is in need to post girls as avatar to get attention
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
February 07 2010 19:55 GMT
#25
On February 07 2010 15:37 Glaucus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 14:49 Boblion wrote:
When will you stop to troll every thread ?


Ever heard of Videla or Ceausescu? They don't set a very good example. It's not surprising they run iccup in a similar manner.

Insulting iccup admins is not trolling btw. I didn't start this thread btw. One of my posts is 10x the quality of yours. Stop with this nonsense. You didn't agree with me about something. Get over it.


I've been seeing a couple of terrible posts this evening and I'm trying to keep myself from getting worked over it. But this just takes the biscuit. What in the fudge is wrong with you? First generalizing and insulting a complete culture, then spouting dirt when someone calls you on it. "Insulting iccup admins is not trolling btw." No. NO. Of course it is trolling, isn't that bloody obvious? Insulting anyone is per definition trolling. You know that.

Man...

Well, just keep on living your live dude. I hope you'll see reason one day.
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ICCup.Tesla
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States841 Posts
February 10 2010 17:10 GMT
#26
Wow this must be the "lets troll iccup admins" thread. Lucky me to see such. XD

On February 07 2010 14:49 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 14:29 Glaucus wrote:
Iccup admins are terrible. Most of them are from countries where ethics are lowly developed. So they have little to no moral compass. Lust laugh at it and try to outsmart them. Not too hard. Unless they IP ban your entire city. Why not?

When will you stop to troll every thread ?


Hmmm..I would like to say that not all of us are terrible . Try to give some of us a break please. By the way, the only admin I have ever heard of banning a city is Unk.

On February 07 2010 15:00 TheAntZ wrote:
a lot of the higher up iccup admins are tools with minimal intelligence and a healthy dose of I dont give a fuck. Other admins however, are really really cool (for example del, couple of others whose names I dont remember). In fact a majority of the admins are intelligent and mannered
Iccup tries so hard and got so far into the foreign sc scene, and they provide a free service though so in the end it doesn't even matter. They can do w/e they want and its justified


Tools eh? Wow...wonderful thing to say there. I may not be on the Starcraft side as an admin anymore..but I can give you a list of Super Admins & Head Admins that are NOT tools, in my personal opinion. I do agree that Del and a few of them are really cool. ^_^

On February 07 2010 15:37 Glaucus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 14:49 Boblion wrote:
When will you stop to troll every thread ?


Ever heard of Videla or Ceausescu? They don't set a very good example. It's not surprising they run iccup in a similar manner.

Insulting iccup admins is not trolling btw. I didn't start this thread btw. One of my posts is 10x the quality of yours. Stop with this nonsense. You didn't agree with me about something. Get over it.



Who are they? What does it matter? They are not the ones in charge. As for insulting admins, it is a form of trolling. I really don't feel like arguing with you to explain this though. ^^



On February 07 2010 20:13 NonFactor wrote:
I once got banned on iCCup totally randomly. I played a few games, went AFK, came back and couldn't login anymore.

I checked iCCup for any complaints against me, and when I found none, I started asking around for the reason of my ban. I contaced like 3 iCCup admins, 2 of them were total douchebags who wouldn't listen to me, and just assumed I had done something wrong and thus ignored me. Third one I contacted was nicer though, he checked the adminboards or w/e and came back to me saying: ''You are indeed banned, but I have no idea why. o_O'' And then he removed my ban.

It was a scary day. Anyways, iCCup often screams fail when they issue bans it seem.




I am not sure why you were banned and I am very sorry that someone was rude to you. That is not how admins should be, for sure.



On February 08 2010 04:55 MisteR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 15:37 Glaucus wrote:
On February 07 2010 14:49 Boblion wrote:
When will you stop to troll every thread ?


Ever heard of Videla or Ceausescu? They don't set a very good example. It's not surprising they run iccup in a similar manner.

Insulting iccup admins is not trolling btw. I didn't start this thread btw. One of my posts is 10x the quality of yours. Stop with this nonsense. You didn't agree with me about something. Get over it.


I've been seeing a couple of terrible posts this evening and I'm trying to keep myself from getting worked over it. But this just takes the biscuit. What in the fudge is wrong with you? First generalizing and insulting a complete culture, then spouting dirt when someone calls you on it. "Insulting iccup admins is not trolling btw." No. NO. Of course it is trolling, isn't that bloody obvious? Insulting anyone is per definition trolling. You know that.

Man...

Well, just keep on living your live dude. I hope you'll see reason one day.



All I can say is lol. You all have made some funny posts and responses here. ^^
@DjTesla ~ CEO of GoSc, GoLoL, GoD3 & GoSmite ~ @The_GoSc ~ @TheGoLoL ~ The greatest glory of man, is not in never falling, but in rising after each time he has fallen.
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
February 10 2010 19:54 GMT
#27
iCCup Admins may be tools, but 99.9% of the ppl who complain about admins r tools themself and/or somekinda cheaters. I have played WGT, nG-i, PGT, gg.nets Carrier and Stargate ladders before iCCup with thousands of games and never have had any problems with admins. So I wonder how is it possible that same faces always have problems with admins, someone care to explain ?
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
ICCup.Tesla
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States841 Posts
February 10 2010 23:22 GMT
#28
On February 11 2010 04:54 kroko wrote:
iCCup Admins may be tools, but 99.9% of the ppl who complain about admins r tools themself and/or somekinda cheaters. I have played WGT, nG-i, PGT, gg.nets Carrier and Stargate ladders before iCCup with thousands of games and never have had any problems with admins. So I wonder how is it possible that same faces always have problems with admins, someone care to explain ?



When someone explains to you, please let me know. I would also love to hear that answer...as we all know its the same one that has been said over and over again. ^^
@DjTesla ~ CEO of GoSc, GoLoL, GoD3 & GoSmite ~ @The_GoSc ~ @TheGoLoL ~ The greatest glory of man, is not in never falling, but in rising after each time he has fallen.
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
February 10 2010 23:29 GMT
#29



Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 20:13 NonFactor wrote:
I once got banned on iCCup totally randomly. I played a few games, went AFK, came back and couldn't login anymore.

I checked iCCup for any complaints against me, and when I found none, I started asking around for the reason of my ban. I contaced like 3 iCCup admins, 2 of them were total douchebags who wouldn't listen to me, and just assumed I had done something wrong and thus ignored me. Third one I contacted was nicer though, he checked the adminboards or w/e and came back to me saying: ''You are indeed banned, but I have no idea why. o_O'' And then he removed my ban.

It was a scary day. Anyways, iCCup often screams fail when they issue bans it seem.




I am not sure why you were banned and I am very sorry that someone was rude to you. That is not how admins should be, for sure.




No hard feelings here, I kinda understand why they would automatically assume I did something wrong and tried to get out of it somehow, I mean most cheaters do always try to deny everything, but still, just a check up resolved the whole issue. ;o
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 23:32:07
February 10 2010 23:31 GMT
#30
On February 11 2010 04:54 kroko wrote:
iCCup Admins may be tools, but 99.9% of the ppl who complain about admins r tools themself and/or somekinda cheaters. I have played WGT, nG-i, PGT, gg.nets Carrier and Stargate ladders before iCCup with thousands of games and never have had any problems with admins. So I wonder how is it possible that same faces always have problems with admins, someone care to explain ?


There's just no need for people who don't have problems with admins to speak up about it, they're just the silent majority. I've never had problems with iccup admins either, although I do remember trying to troll one :D.

Also, really sucks for you frode, definitely over-enforcing a rule there.
No I'm never serious.
ICCup.Tesla
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States841 Posts
February 11 2010 07:59 GMT
#31
On February 11 2010 08:29 NonFactor wrote:
Show nested quote +



On February 07 2010 20:13 NonFactor wrote:
I once got banned on iCCup totally randomly. I played a few games, went AFK, came back and couldn't login anymore.

I checked iCCup for any complaints against me, and when I found none, I started asking around for the reason of my ban. I contaced like 3 iCCup admins, 2 of them were total douchebags who wouldn't listen to me, and just assumed I had done something wrong and thus ignored me. Third one I contacted was nicer though, he checked the adminboards or w/e and came back to me saying: ''You are indeed banned, but I have no idea why. o_O'' And then he removed my ban.

It was a scary day. Anyways, iCCup often screams fail when they issue bans it seem.




I am not sure why you were banned and I am very sorry that someone was rude to you. That is not how admins should be, for sure.




No hard feelings here, I kinda understand why they would automatically assume I did something wrong and tried to get out of it somehow, I mean most cheaters do always try to deny everything, but still, just a check up resolved the whole issue. ;o



Well I am very glad the issue got resolved. ^^ You are also right about cheaters..lol...Its rather funny sometimes.


On February 11 2010 08:31 Nytefish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2010 04:54 kroko wrote:
iCCup Admins may be tools, but 99.9% of the ppl who complain about admins r tools themself and/or somekinda cheaters. I have played WGT, nG-i, PGT, gg.nets Carrier and Stargate ladders before iCCup with thousands of games and never have had any problems with admins. So I wonder how is it possible that same faces always have problems with admins, someone care to explain ?


There's just no need for people who don't have problems with admins to speak up about it, they're just the silent majority. I've never had problems with iccup admins either, although I do remember trying to troll one :D.

Also, really sucks for you frode, definitely over-enforcing a rule there.


I agree...If you don't like something, there is a way to do it politely, without being rude. Having manners and not using them is no excuse for your lack of them.
@DjTesla ~ CEO of GoSc, GoLoL, GoD3 & GoSmite ~ @The_GoSc ~ @TheGoLoL ~ The greatest glory of man, is not in never falling, but in rising after each time he has fallen.
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-11 09:13:56
February 11 2010 09:10 GMT
#32
On February 11 2010 02:10 ICCup.Tesla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 15:00 TheAntZ wrote:
a lot of the higher up iccup admins are tools with minimal intelligence and a healthy dose of I dont give a fuck. Other admins however, are really really cool (for example del, couple of others whose names I dont remember). In fact a majority of the admins are intelligent and mannered
Iccup tries so hard and got so far into the foreign sc scene, and they provide a free service though so in the end it doesn't even matter. They can do w/e they want and its justified


Tools eh? Wow...wonderful thing to say there. I may not be on the Starcraft side as an admin anymore..but I can give you a list of Super Admins & Head Admins that are NOT tools, in my personal opinion. I do agree that Del and a few of them are really cool. ^_^


yup. if you ban someone for no reason other then that they disagree with you (read: unk, mai-k, dont remember the other ones name) and have no legitimate reason for doing so other then that you CAN, it makes you a tool, and those mods have done so.
EDIT: I've never been banned by iccup admins, however I have tried posting a thread or two, and do watch the forums from time to time, and i see this stuff happening
not to mention the hundreds of threads that come up on tl about mods just closing threads with no response and banning people even if they werent that bm
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CoOl]1st[
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States243 Posts
February 12 2010 02:16 GMT
#33
sasuke! no! u have always been one of the few good AND mannered 2:2 players. this is so sad;(
Wizard]1st[ fighting :O
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
February 12 2010 02:28 GMT
#34
I don't play on ICCup, and I don't know how many topics you made (from the topic you posted, and this thread, I'm guessing two), but that banning is complete bullshit. I'd hardly call two topics flooding, and you actually had a well written post from what I could see, and you were just trying to get an issue resolved. To lock the thread would have been one thing, if it wasn't the right avenue to go about thing (though, who knows if PMing the admin that banned you would have resulted in a ban itself?), but to ban you on top of that is definitely overzealous/power-abusing.
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WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
February 12 2010 02:40 GMT
#35
Yes, most of them are noobs and can't judge complaints etc but iccup.com is still amazing. About your case: ridiculous power abuse lol
zvz is imba
Heaven.ReV
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway86 Posts
February 13 2010 01:54 GMT
#36
What are you guys talking about? He clearly broke the rules, got caught and the punishment which follows. He made two topics - one where he was explained why it was banned, a second where he was told again why he was banned as well as warned that he should stop posting and then the third post where he was banned, as warned.

You people make it look way worse than it really is. I honestly don't have any sympathy for the cause, rather the contrary.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-13 02:04:17
February 13 2010 02:03 GMT
#37
On February 08 2010 04:55 MisteR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 15:37 Glaucus wrote:
On February 07 2010 14:49 Boblion wrote:
When will you stop to troll every thread ?


Ever heard of Videla or Ceausescu? They don't set a very good example. It's not surprising they run iccup in a similar manner.

Insulting iccup admins is not trolling btw. I didn't start this thread btw. One of my posts is 10x the quality of yours. Stop with this nonsense. You didn't agree with me about something. Get over it.


I've been seeing a couple of terrible posts this evening and I'm trying to keep myself from getting worked over it. But this just takes the biscuit. What in the fudge is wrong with you? First generalizing and insulting a complete culture, then spouting dirt when someone calls you on it. "Insulting iccup admins is not trolling btw." No. NO. Of course it is trolling, isn't that bloody obvious? Insulting anyone is per definition trolling. You know that.

Man...

Well, just keep on living your live dude. I hope you'll see reason one day.

Insulting matches trolling because they have the same result but the intentions are different. In fact, you could say that telling your honest opinion is trolling because it can cause people to react the same way that trolling causes people to.

So no, insulting someone =! trolling them.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
February 13 2010 02:11 GMT
#38
On February 07 2010 15:00 TheAntZ wrote:
Iccup tries so hard and got so far into the foreign sc scene, and they provide a free service though so in the end it doesn't even matter. They can do w/e they want and its justified

This attitude is pretty... eh....
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
February 13 2010 06:00 GMT
#39
On February 13 2010 11:11 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 15:00 TheAntZ wrote:
Iccup tries so hard and got so far into the foreign sc scene, and they provide a free service though so in the end it doesn't even matter. They can do w/e they want and its justified

This attitude is pretty... eh....


Isn't that the same attitude of TL? This is quoted form the ten commandments:
"You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not a "for profit" enterprise. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness."


And damn there is a lot of admin bashing here. I am a forum admin so I can only comment on that, but I know everyone we have banned since I started REALLY deserved it. Which has been like 4 people in the couple months i've been an admin. don't judge us all based one one or two people...
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ICCup.Tesla
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States841 Posts
March 06 2010 05:34 GMT
#40
Cant this topic just be done? I'm sorry but no one is perfect. Sure, we all mess up...I am not saying an admin is perfect...If you got banned and it was unjustified in your opinion, then please try to talk to ICCup.Mai-k for Sc side. He is a very reasonable guy. If you got banned on our DotA server then come talk to me as I am the Head Admin for DotA...But regardless....we really all do alot and try to simply give back...so please give us a break.
@DjTesla ~ CEO of GoSc, GoLoL, GoD3 & GoSmite ~ @The_GoSc ~ @TheGoLoL ~ The greatest glory of man, is not in never falling, but in rising after each time he has fallen.
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