Some of you who play on the 2v2 ladder on iccup may have noticed this crusade the admins now have against accounts who have the wrong flag. My own account, along with several others, was reset and banned. Im looking for some different perspectives on the issue (halphalp).
Short version is I transfered stats from a d+ account with an American flag to an account with a correct flag two months ago. I had simply just forgotten all about transfering from it. Now it strikes me as rather unfair that I could get so severely punished, just for making up for my earlier mistake in using a fake flagged account.
Anywho i've been told that mai-k's word is law at the website by different admins, and it seems my forumban is imminent because i remade the thread when they closed it before I could reply.
On February 07 2010 12:30 GreEny K wrote: damn yo, i have like... 5 accounts with different flags... One of the admins even changed it for me lol
It's OK when you request the flag change from HasuW when it's incorrect or if you maybe want the flag of your heritage or w/e instread of country of residency. The problem for the 2v2 accounts specifically is because there was so much of it happening at the high levels of 2v2 and it was really a purge and also to get the message across. The rule has been out there but no one ignored it and repeat offenders have ruined it for everyone.
I think the stance with smurfing on an account with a different flag is that it is tolerated, even though technically it's not really allowed. The problem is when people abuse the toleration to get unfair advantages such as the cases where they transferred to a friend's account to let them play at higher ranks.
The funny thing is I'm pretty sure ICCup.Lov3 isn't from japan. I may be wrong but I'm 80% sure he is Romanian. However, he is using a japanese flag on iccup.
There are a ton of inconsistencies with admin decisions and ICCup rules. I really want to explain it away with the fact that admins come from many different countries. They may not understand the server rules very well due to somewhat unfortunate language barriers. That just seems unlikely though.
Anyway, yeah: If a Head Admin makes a decision there isn't really anything you can do to undo it unless you are very lucky.
hahahahahah this is so stupid, I gave Frode that account like a year ago when I made it, and it changed to a norwegian flag by itself...like 6 months and 2 seasons ago. How stupid is that?
There's no repeat offense or any abusing or smurfing WHATSOEVER. Do you Iccup people not even have IP histories or even LOOK at what you're doing before you ban people? This is honestly ridiculous, lol.
Sasuke is being very generous saying we "share" the account. We don't share anything at all. I gave it to him a year ago and I haven't touched it a single time, EVER.
Probably the reason is that I made the acc with a USA IP and you log on with a Norwegian IP. I guess they better start crackin the fuck down on Yan/Tazarro/etc, because they sure as hell share accounts and give stats away and shit.
On February 07 2010 12:48 ishob wrote: Yep there it is, I am now ipbanned from the site for 2 weeks:/
IMO I have seen mai-k ban alot of people over very small things. I swear, when it comes to a point where mai-k has a chance to ban someone, he will do it 100% rather than look at the situation and work out a solution. Mai-k's only solution ever has been to ban anyone that annoys, or angers him, without actually looking at the problem at hand.
Thats why soo many people complain about iccup. That sort of attitude trickles down to alot of lower admins, and you end up with a negative experience overall. Personally I rarely ever post on the site for that reason.
yeah there are some problems with ICCUP but instead of complaining fruitlessly about it and making a whine blog, if there's a problem that doesn't make sense, why don't you just PM (politely) one of the admins that frequent teamliquid?
haha, you gotta love this one, the opening line is: "After a long time, we finally got rid of Mai-K"
Simply epic work by cheloman <3
Furthermore, how would it help PMing some iCCup Admins who're visiting TL.net? All that's possible to do is ask for some Admin to go corrupt and make an exception of the rules, so to speak. Unless you're talking about changing the rules themselves, though, but as iCCup.DeL implies; a situation has forced them to take such drastic means.
Hence, there's not that much to do except play on accounts with one's own flag on it. Not that hard to stay away from trouble
Why though.. They force you to use the flag of the country you're currently in, result is I have accounts with norwegian, swedish, US and japanese flag...
On February 07 2010 12:30 GreEny K wrote: damn yo, i have like... 5 accounts with different flags... One of the admins even changed it for me lol
It's OK when you request the flag change from HasuW when it's incorrect or if you maybe want the flag of your heritage or w/e instread of country of residency. The problem for the 2v2 accounts specifically is because there was so much of it happening at the high levels of 2v2 and it was really a purge and also to get the message across. The rule has been out there but no one ignored it and repeat offenders have ruined it for everyone.
I think the stance with smurfing on an account with a different flag is that it is tolerated, even though technically it's not really allowed. The problem is when people abuse the toleration to get unfair advantages such as the cases where they transferred to a friend's account to let them play at higher ranks.
Ok, I have a german flag on a lot of my accounts because i lived there for so long. Quick question, why are 2v2 players not allowed to have a different flag?
Iccup admins are terrible. Most of them are from countries where ethics are lowly developed. So they have little to no moral compass. Lust laugh at it and try to outsmart them. Not too hard. Unless they IP ban your entire city. Why not?
On February 07 2010 14:29 Glaucus wrote: Iccup admins are terrible. Most of them are from countries where ethics are lowly developed. So they have little to no moral compass. Lust laugh at it and try to outsmart them. Not too hard. Unless they IP ban your entire city. Why not?
a lot of the higher up iccup admins are tools with minimal intelligence and a healthy dose of I dont give a fuck. Other admins however, are really really cool (for example del, couple of others whose names I dont remember). In fact a majority of the admins are intelligent and mannered Iccup tries so hard and got so far into the foreign sc scene, and they provide a free service though so in the end it doesn't even matter. They can do w/e they want and its justified
On February 07 2010 14:49 Boblion wrote: When will you stop to troll every thread ?
Ever heard of Videla or Ceausescu? They don't set a very good example. It's not surprising they run iccup in a similar manner.
Insulting iccup admins is not trolling btw. I didn't start this thread btw. One of my posts is 10x the quality of yours. Stop with this nonsense. You didn't agree with me about something. Get over it.
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