I played 4 games(1-3) today, granted I'm awful at sc and probably shouldn't play the game, I played some today. I am probably the worst zerg alive, but by chance i'm mid D from cheesers who couldn't seal the deal.
Now to start, I made a bluestorm game and played a terran. He was from Sweden, which I have some great friends from Sweden and never once have I ever been annoyed by them or anything ( such nice people), but anyways this game a Swedish guy joins.
So the game starts - 9 pool--> 2 hatch muta. He walled off and went for some SKT. I go in with my subpar muta micro and kill off all his scvs while he tries to build turrets and gols :/. That was just his main though, his nat was still running. Then he got valks. Now if I ever saw someone who couldn't save their valks, it was him. 4 valk's sniped in the open and by muta bombing.
So at this point I had a good harrass but being the terribad player I am, I didn't expand and so then in the end I die because of the fact I misjudged how far behind he was/ ahead I might have been.
Now here's the main point,as my base explodes in bloody fireworks, he calls me a cheeser. A cheeser? I dunno about you but I'm pretty sure I didn't cheese. Then he proceeds to bash me by saying I cheesed my way to ~1500 and that I was a skilless noobie who played skilless people. I didn't understand what he was talking about and just left. But being called a cheeser for 2 hatch muta was just bizarre.
Couple that with my idea that Swedish people were one of the nicest cultures I've ever met so it was a weird day :/
Oh well this was too long, but whatever. To make up for it -
Did you 9pool into 2 hatch muta and not expand? Just kept making mutas? Thats pretty cheesy/all-in if you ask me.
Edit: Can't really tell without knowing how many mutas you built, but if you just kept spamming mutas, and had almost no workers etc, then yeah, I'd say he is about right (dunno if it is something you do EVERY game or just this one, but yeah, staying on 2 bases, having almost no drones, but having built like 3 complete control groups of mutalisks is a pretty cheesy build.
Cheese isn't an absolute term anyway (as proved by many discussions on this forum). It's like if he said you had a bad taste in women (which is clearly not true ).
On February 07 2010 10:05 Catch]22 wrote: Did you 9pool into 2 hatch muta and not expand? Just kept making mutas? Thats pretty cheesy/all-in if you ask me.
Edit: Can't really tell without knowing how many mutas you built, but if you just kept spamming mutas, and had almost no workers etc, then yeah, I'd say he is about right (dunno if it is something you do EVERY game or just this one, but yeah, staying on 2 bases, having almost no drones, but having built like 3 complete control groups of mutalisks is a pretty cheesy build.
I was kinda paranoid of expanding, but I did build workers and went into lurker/ling but I guess that seems more all-inish if I didn't expand?
On February 07 2010 10:05 Catch]22 wrote: Did you 9pool into 2 hatch muta and not expand? Just kept making mutas? Thats pretty cheesy/all-in if you ask me.
Edit: Can't really tell without knowing how many mutas you built, but if you just kept spamming mutas, and had almost no workers etc, then yeah, I'd say he is about right (dunno if it is something you do EVERY game or just this one, but yeah, staying on 2 bases, having almost no drones, but having built like 3 complete control groups of mutalisks is a pretty cheesy build.
I was kinda paranoid of expanding, but I did build workers and went into lurker/ling but I guess that seems more all-inish if I didn't expand?
I dont know, sounds wierd that anyone would call it an all in/cheese if you built alot more than the standard amount of mutalisks and then went into regular gameplay. But right now it still sounds cheesy.
But who goes valkyries? They are so hard to keep alive and use (if you aren't fantasy). I could see why he would get frustrated, I'hve tried the valkyrie builds, and do use them sometimes, and wow it's hard.
On February 07 2010 10:05 Catch]22 wrote: Did you 9pool into 2 hatch muta and not expand? Just kept making mutas? Thats pretty cheesy/all-in if you ask me.
Edit: Can't really tell without knowing how many mutas you built, but if you just kept spamming mutas, and had almost no workers etc, then yeah, I'd say he is about right (dunno if it is something you do EVERY game or just this one, but yeah, staying on 2 bases, having almost no drones, but having built like 3 complete control groups of mutalisks is a pretty cheesy build.
I was kinda paranoid of expanding, but I did build workers and went into lurker/ling but I guess that seems more all-inish if I didn't expand?
I dont know, sounds wierd that anyone would call it an all in/cheese if you built alot more than the standard amount of mutalisks and then went into regular gameplay. But right now it still sounds cheesy.
But who goes valkyries? They are so hard to keep alive and use (if you aren't fantasy). I could see why he would get frustrated, I'hve tried the valkyrie builds, and do use them sometimes, and wow it's hard.
Haha meh. Just one game anyways. Maybe he aspires to be fantasy :D
On February 07 2010 10:42 lgd-haze wrote: Err... Catch]22 all-in isn't necessarily cheese. If you see an window to end the game, you should go for it.
Also, Every country has its black sheeps. Don't get to judgemental. I'm a very nice guy!
Thing is this window would only have existed against someone who is bad, so it would only beat bad players :/ I'm afraid I gotta side with your opponent here.
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