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So heres the situation. I am 16, she is 15. Shes a great girl, attractive, good christian, happy, basically everything i look for. well anyways the dealio is recently we have been getting along well but the problem is that she isnt allowed to date until she is 16(i am 16). she turns 16 next october.
This obviously brings up the problem of the friend zone. I would hate to wait all that time and just be friends. The original plan was to take her to the junior prom and get on the sort of "verge of relationship" area and just hold that out until then. I figured her parents would let her go, since you only get to go to so many proms in your life(my parents let me and my sister go to junior proms when we were 15, we werent allowed to date until 16). But just yesterday she made it into the state gymnnastic meet, which is the same day as prom, in oroville, depending on the time of the meet she still might be able to make it but idk if i want to ask her anyways since im aware of this meet.
So that basically means i have no chance at spending any time with her outside of school, not only cuz she is uber busy with gymnastics and stuff but because her parents wouldnt let her probably(other then group dates which might be a possibility). and summer break without seeing her at all is guna suck.
tl;dr - How to avoid friend zone without being able to go on a date or anything with a girl(just seeing her at school)
I thought maybe going a bit to their youth group since my best friend goes there but i dont really want to use church to get closer to a girl.
   
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Kennigit
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Tease her and flirt with her. Don't be nice to her.
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friend zone doesn't really exist - it's just a parody of women's behavior. If you want to be around her even in a non-sexual way then why not.
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Tell her that her parents are retarded by making such restrictions, and run away from home with her.
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Perhaps you should try dating someone who you can actually spend time with? I mean, you are assuming she is even interested in a relationship when she might be focused on her gymnastic activities.
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FUCK these THREADS MAKE ME SICK.
Seriously do not ask on a starcraft forum!!!!!
get it through your head!
Don't think about it, it will not help.
just be cool with life and girls will come.
SERIOUSLY NO MORE OF THESE THREADS.
We need an insta-ban anti-girl thread mod bot ok?
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That might be true but you're still a douche.
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Norway28620 Posts
you're looking for a good christian girl but you're afraid to end up in the friend zone?
anyway friend zone exists, but worrying about ending up there is dumb. loosen up, don't worry about stuff, just act like a normal human being and your relationships will be good and fruitful. if she is a great girl then becoming her friend can't possibly be all that bad, whatever jealousy you'll feel at whatever point when she finds someone else isn't gonna be particularly long lasting and meanwhile you get to enjoy her company in a better way than if you were dating her.
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On February 01 2010 08:30 Hypnosis wrote: FUCK these THREADS MAKE ME SICK.
Seriously do not ask on a starcraft forum!!!!!
get it through your head!
Don't think about it, it will not help.
just be cool with life and girls will come.
SERIOUSLY NO MORE OF THESE THREADS.
We need an insta-ban anti-girl thread mod bot ok?
as cool with life as you?
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Youth group is really the way to go. I don't really know how strict and prude that group would be, but usually social groups are awesome ways to get to know people. Think about it, youth group = trips (to the beach/pool dunno), a regular time to hang out every week outside of school and best of all, youth retreats (they get better as you get older). If you know people in it already all the better, just have fun basically. And really, don't get clingy. Try not to limit yourself to only this one girl and turn yourself off from all others, if you are too clingy when you dont really know each other it just makes things worse.
You aren't exploiting the church by attending one of its activities because of a girl you like, a bunch of the guys in my youth group are there to meet girls, this isin't a sin mind you. But again, it really depends on how strict your environment is (that would probably be the limiting factor of the extent of your intimacy with her). The more you tell, the more we can help, but remember what Kennigit said, flirting, not gawking and praising, is what will get you a relationship GL HF
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She isn't allowed to date before 16. you weren't allowed to.. WTF IS THIS. As anyone would even ask their parents for dating? It's like asking with 16 if you're allowed to go to the Supermarket.
So just don't get with her. You're obviously not mature enough for a serious relationship and believe me, everything else is just a waste of time. You like that girl, so i guess "Sex training" is not on the menu. Just get friends with her. Why not?
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If you are worried about being friend zoned you are already friend zoned.
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On February 01 2010 08:30 Hypnosis wrote: FUCK these THREADS MAKE ME SICK.
Seriously do not ask on a starcraft forum!!!!!
get it through your head!
Don't think about it, it will not help.
just be cool with life and girls will come.
SERIOUSLY NO MORE OF THESE THREADS.
We need an insta-ban anti-girl thread mod bot ok?
you gotta skate
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On February 01 2010 08:54 ZeroCartin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2010 08:30 Hypnosis wrote: FUCK these THREADS MAKE ME SICK.
Seriously do not ask on a starcraft forum!!!!!
get it through your head!
Don't think about it, it will not help.
just be cool with life and girls will come.
SERIOUSLY NO MORE OF THESE THREADS.
We need an insta-ban anti-girl thread mod bot ok?
you gotta skate
LOLLLLLLLLLLL
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On February 01 2010 08:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: If you are worried about being friend zoned you are already friend zoned.
This basically what I am saying, you cannot change how they think of you until you change yourself over a long period of time...
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I m curious what you will actually do , its quite interesting ^^
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On February 01 2010 08:40 bITt.mAN wrote: Youth group is really the way to go. I don't really know how strict and prude that group would be, but usually social groups are awesome ways to get to know people. Think about it, youth group = trips (to the beach/pool dunno), a regular time to hang out every week outside of school and best of all, youth retreats (they get better as you get older). If you know people in it already all the better, just have fun basically. And really, don't get clingy. Try not to limit yourself to only this one girl and turn yourself off from all others, if you are too clingy when you dont really know each other it just makes things worse.
You aren't exploiting the church by attending one of its activities because of a girl you like, a bunch of the guys in my youth group are there to meet girls, this isin't a sin mind you. But again, it really depends on how strict your environment is (that would probably be the limiting factor of the extent of your intimacy with her). The more you tell, the more we can help, but remember what Kennigit said, flirting, not gawking and praising, is what will get you a relationship GL HF
Ya i suppose i could over the summer at least. I cant during the school year cuz of my job, and the fact that its way out in mckinleyville.
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I think you shouldn't think too much about being in friend zone, let it be natural
Me and my girlfriend have been friend for like 12 years and we just established our relationship like a month ago
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United States4796 Posts
Flirt, yeah. Be nice if you want to but definitely flirt with her. Oh, and make yourself socially valuable.
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You can't change what a girl thinks of you. A girl decides in the first 5 minutes of meeting a guy his potential with her.
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Sorry I'm a christian my self (well more like used to be, but here in canada let's say... that religion lost a lot of its power) what the **** (I know those * look like I wrote what the fuck but it was actually used to prevent me from using the word hell in this thread cause your a christian and I dont want to offend you ) is a youth group? And honnestly if your looking for a good christian girl, that normaly means that your a "good christian boy" too, and there for her parents should logicly approve you to be her boyfriend if you show them how much of a good boy you are.
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Forget about the friend zone, theres bigger things at stake; you've got to help your country defeat the Chinese. The fact that the even the hope of a relationship exists is disheartening but you can save her. Kennigit had the right idea, you have to scorn her; crush her emotionally so all thats left is the mat. Cast her from the kingdom of men, exile her to the beam and the uneven bars and those sticks with the ribbons on them that must be waved with the utmost precision. With your sacrifice, first she'll crush the state, then the national qualifiers and then, god willing, vengeance. Thank goodness you came to teamliquid with your relationship problems, I can see you were misguided. You may think you want her but really what you, and your nation lusts for is sweet sweet gold. Go now hero, prom is only a few short months from now; the sooner you spark her metamorphosis from sweet girl to gymnastics monster the stronger she'll be
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Make it obvious what you want. If she wants it too, then you can both wait till she's 16. Girls can't read your mind that you want a relationship. You have to let her know.
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On February 01 2010 08:21 Kennigit wrote: Tease her and flirt with her. Don't be nice to her.
this, and just make sure that your intentions are clear to her
if you dont make it painfully obvious (without just flat out telling her) she wont realize
I think you can still be nice to her sometimes though.. the flirting and teasing has to be there though
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On February 01 2010 09:05 Hypnosis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2010 08:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: If you are worried about being friend zoned you are already friend zoned. This basically what I am saying, you cannot change how they think of you until you change yourself over a long period of time...
Still it gives you experience, and you'll know what to do/what not to do next time.
If you have a problem with these threads don't open them lol.
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Move on. You basically can't date her and you have to wait many months to do so. Enjoy your teenage years, don't waste them waiting on one girl. Experiment, play, build up your personality. Waiting is bad for you at this age. Move on.
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As far as i know if a girl likes you she will continue to like you until you fuck it up. So basically be her friend, and don't fuck it up. :D
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Dont Wait.
Only way to avoid the friendzone is to seal the deal, close the sale, 5pool before it is too late. Ask her out NOW, something along the lines of "i really like you and would like to reserve you first on october!" Proceed to court her regularly, but under the pretense that it is unofficial, then make it official on her birthday. Hold off on the kissing until that day, but do everything else a good boyfriend would do. If you play your cards right, build the atmosphere, play suave james bond, the anticipation combo of Birthday+first official boyfriend+surprise mystery gift+romantic period of unrequited love+secret hidden from parents+first kiss alone will amplify her attraction to you.
of course, if you put all this stuff in motion, then decide that you dont like her at all, well...you're going to become a real asshole =p.
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If you're not sure if you're friendzoned or not then its time to follow the wise words of confuscious.
"When in doubt, Whipe it out"
Gl sir, tell me your result.
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lol GS!!! I think you mean "whip it out" and that is probably a bad idea considering she is supposedly a good 15 year old Christian girl who would be appalled by such an action.
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On February 01 2010 10:12 LonelyMargarita wrote: You can't change what a girl thinks of you. A girl decides in the first 5 minutes of meeting a guy his potential with her. That's just bullshit right there.
Anyway, nice guys never get the girl, although they are occasionally used as a rebound and immediately dropped within a week.
If you like a girl, don't even plan that shit. Just go for it asap. If she says yes, you win! If she says no, just fine because you can start looking for the next one without having been emotionally enthralled like if you were pining for some bitch for a while and never made a move. You're 16. Just do something.
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Let her know... Invite her... Tell her that u like her, u'd like to go out with her but you know the rule and respect it (if she cares).. and try to be the "special friend", it will suck for you 'til october at least....
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Don't bother with christian girls period. I tried to take one skating, i told her you gotta skate but she didn't wanna skate so i got friend zoned. True story.
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Why don't you ask her to go to the prom even despite the meet. It just the action of asking her to go and showing your interest that will put you on the verge of the relationship area. Also, just flirt with her, I don't especially agree with the "Don't be nice" but don't be afraid to tease her flirtatiously.
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On February 01 2010 11:38 Railxp wrote: Dont Wait.
Only way to avoid the friendzone is to seal the deal, close the sale, 5pool before it is too late. Ask her out NOW, something along the lines of "i really like you and would like to reserve you first on october!" Proceed to court her regularly, but under the pretense that it is unofficial, then make it official on her birthday. Hold off on the kissing until that day, but do everything else a good boyfriend would do. If you play your cards right, build the atmosphere, play suave james bond, the anticipation combo of Birthday+first official boyfriend+surprise mystery gift+romantic period of unrequited love+secret hidden from parents+first kiss alone will amplify her attraction to you.
of course, if you put all this stuff in motion, then decide that you dont like her at all, well...you're going to become a real asshole =p.
This poster probably makes those "What would happen if tanks shot yamoto gun and templars had consume" threads.
Reason being what he says is so nice and suave in theory, and seems like he knows what he's talking about, but it actually doesn't workout in that way.
You are a male meaning you possess a penis and a different chemical mechanism than a female. A girl will literally shut off the electricity to get her parents to go to sleep, so a guy can come sneak in.
They aren't unicorns. They are horny little sluts. Yes, even that cute innocent girl that sits in the front row of your church.
Do not court the girl. Present yourself in such a way that the girl courts you. Sooner or later, a natural opportunity will come up where you can without awkward tension, ask her if she would like to go watch a movie or what ever activity you have in mind.
At that point, she will do whatever you want. You just have to be a man and take it.
The key thing however, is to understand why I'm writing this vs a detailed reciepe that the above poster gave. You need to see what works and what doesn't work. You are a nubile 16 year old.
have fun and Experiment.
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On February 01 2010 10:12 LonelyMargarita wrote: You can't change what a girl thinks of you. A girl decides in the first 5 minutes of meeting a guy his potential with her. I find that it's guys that decide right away, or is it just me?
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On February 01 2010 16:31 Spike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2010 10:12 LonelyMargarita wrote: You can't change what a girl thinks of you. A girl decides in the first 5 minutes of meeting a guy his potential with her. I find that it's guys that decide right away, or is it just me?
Guys decide right away and then change their minds rather quickly after sex.
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On February 01 2010 08:26 ProoM wrote: Tell her that her parents are retarded by making such restrictions, and run away from home with her. Dude some families have some principles other people cant understand. To tell you a personal example.
I have a girlfriend for 1.5 month now, she is 24 y old. She have studied in UK for 5 years, she owns her own pharmacy makes alot of her own money, she lives with her parents. SHE cannot see me twice a day, SHE cannot go for a weekend somewhere with me simply because her parents are indian/persian and have some strict rules with boyfriends. Like if I dont marry her we cant have sex or cant sleep with me etc. so imagine how my situation is. 25y old and its like im with a 15y old simply because we cant do some things. on a sidenote ofc we have sex lol.
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On February 01 2010 12:50 resonance wrote: Don't bother with christian girls period. I tried to take one skating, i told her you gotta skate but she didn't wanna skate so i got friend zoned. True story. this needs more love
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On February 01 2010 10:18 WeakTuna wrote: Sorry I'm a christian my self (well more like used to be, but here in canada let's say... that religion lost a lot of its power) what the **** (I know those * look like I wrote what the fuck but it was actually used to prevent me from using the word hell in this thread cause your a christian and I dont want to offend you ) is a youth group? And honnestly if your looking for a good christian girl, that normaly means that your a "good christian boy" too, and there for her parents should logicly approve you to be her boyfriend if you show them how much of a good boy you are.
Opposite of what this guy said.
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