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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 21:35:42
January 26 2010 21:34 GMT
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Hey guys I'm a Counter-Strike major and this semester I'm taking the AK-47 1301, M4A1 3302, Camping 101 and Hostage Rescuing 101 courses. This is my last year and I will be getting my bachelor's on December! Finally I'll be ready to go out there and bomb some Aztec ruins and shit..

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Now for real, lol, I'm a Computer Science major and I'm planning to move to Germany (girlfriend) once I graduate this fall of 2010. However, I'm in the U.S. and have big plans of getting my Master's on one of these big name school such as Berkeley or MIT, or god knows what. But I really want to go live with my fiance =[

I have no idea what to do.

What are you guys' thoughts on the success of CS majors in Germany compared to the U.S.? Are there any good Master's schools in Germany? Also, my German is really bad so I think I will be in deep shit of a problem as well, but I'm learning it rather quickly. I also hope learning it by immersion isn't as bad as I'm thinking it is x.x

Fuck.

Also recommend me places to go visit.

Anyways, this is a really tough decision. What would you do if you were in my position? I just can't dump her or make her wait another shitload of years before I get my masters and at least learn the language well enough to carry on a normal, everyday-life conversation. Also, I'm Venezuelan Dx

Oh well, thx for reading peeps.

aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 22:00:23
January 26 2010 21:46 GMT
#2
CS in München at the TUM or especially in Karlsruhe at the KIT are VERY good. I dont think the cs at the KIT is worse than at a top us uni. Problem is im not sure how much the new master/bachelor system is integrated yet and most courses would be in german of course, thats a bit tough i guess.
You could just try for a semester whether it is your thing or not.

thing about german unis is that the campi are often ugly and the tutoring for individuals is for sure lacking, meaning you have to be more selfreliant. Bright side is that you dont have to pay much fees.

edit:
the website is a mess, dooh. Maybe cause they are not yet finished migrating to the new portal, so much content is still only available at the old website.
tarpman
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada720 Posts
January 26 2010 21:54 GMT
#3
Immersing yourself in a new country is a fantastic thing to do, and I think that when you're having to interact with people every day you'll pick up the language and culture very quickly. Having a girlfriend who speaks German and can help you with stuff initially would also be a huge help. Go for it!

As far as schools, I think I've heard good things about both Karlsruhe and Erlangen. I don't know any details about them though.
Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1601 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 22:01:13
January 26 2010 22:00 GMT
#4
i don't think you will have problems getting a job in a technical field
especially if you have a master title, but well I'm not really into this issue

Where does your gf live? What are your preferences, do you prefer culture or technical stuff?

ah well and if you want to learn some german while playing broodwar, then join a german clan ^^
I have a clanmate who learned german just by following our conversations ^^

btw and where did you get this flag with the strange coat of arms oO?
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
LiminalMadness
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany88 Posts
January 26 2010 22:04 GMT
#5
I dont know exactly how the german CompSci courses are run, but i study in switzerland ( the german speaking part) and here pretty much all Master-Level CompSci courses are in English.
I think the major universities in Germany might also have a majority of courses in english.

If your Girlfriend is willing to move, or if she already lives near a country border, you might wanna look into Universities on the other site of those borders.

And you might wanna google for university or university of applied sciences ( that should be fachhochschule in german ) rankings for germany for your field of study.
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 22:26:46
January 26 2010 22:22 GMT
#6
as to your competitive ability with a german uni education you can look at this chart.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_exp-economy-exports
(similar chart can be found on wikipedia)
It is like that most years except in 2009 china has overtaken us, but keep in mind that there are only 80 million germans.
Of course exports =! education but there sure is some correlation considering it is not textiles and bananas that make these numbers^^
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
January 27 2010 00:10 GMT
#7
I'm also a CS major and almost 100% of our master's degree classes are held in English. (University of Paderborn)

Shouldn't be a problem for you, also foreign experience is always a plus. I say go for it (and you get to live with your girlfriend, which by itself makes it worthwhile). Good luck!
aka. Samael
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