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So i've done Salvia before, several times. It's always a total mindfuck. I just had a really interesting experience about 30 minutes ago though, that i think some of you will find funny.
I recently came into ownership of a double percolator/diffused downstem RooR bong. The thing cost about $400.
Also, i had 500mg of 40x (Standardized) Salvia. I packed it into one bowl quite easily.
Finally, i have a brand-new, unopened, torch lighter.
Combining these three was easy. I had a friend ready to watch me as i tripped (always be safe, kids) and when i started to take my hit i didn't feel any foreboding at all.
I milked the bowl for all that it was worth and after it took on a nasty dark yellow hue i sucked it all in and instantly realized i wasn't going to be in this reality for very much longer, as i felt my entire body sheared in half. I can't really explain that feeling.
Almost comically, i handed the bong to my friend and waved good-bye, before i fell over onto the floor. Suddenly, the entire universe was a rope and i was stuck inside of it. It was being consumed by the TV (which was on to some random station) and the TV was controlled by evil Disney Characters. They wanted to suck me into the TV, and i had to warn my friend about it, but i couldn't because i had absolutely no way to speak. I don't remember much of what happened after that, but suddenly i was standing by the bedroom door. Apparently i had spent 20 minutes rolling around, yelling incoherent gibberish, and walking around.
I've never had a salvia trip nearly that intense before. I'm still physically shaken by it and while i have very little memory i can just feel a massive amount of fear almost radiating from the memories.
I don't really think this was worth it. If anything i can now write 40x off as too strong for my taste.
EDIT: To add a little more perspective to how strong this trip really was, i've done 1+ gram DXM trips and not been nearly as shaken up as i am. I've done 80mg+ Bufotenin trips and come out of it laughing. I did an Ayahuasca brew during a few short weeks i spent in Equador, and that was one of the most eye-opening experiences of my life. While i was in Europe, i got the chance to smoke 200mg of DMT at once. All of these trips, while equally intense, paled in comparison to the sheer unadulterated terror i felt in this salvia trip.
 
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hahahahahahaha, really wanna try salvia.
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United States3824 Posts
1k mg of DXM? That's pretty brave dude 
How long did you have afterglow from that?
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I make sausages with salvia... I guess that's what you're talking about.
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On January 23 2010 13:23 cgrinker wrote:1k mg of DXM? That's pretty brave dude How long did you have afterglow from that?
Only about 2 days actually. I did an agent lemon extraction on delsym to make DXM freebase.
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haha, my friend freaked out in a similar way to that too and another friend goes into hysterics every time he smokes it. I've never tripped that hard off it, at least not yet.
DMT is some really crazy shit, my friend was seeing people as fucked up green goblins and strange patterns hovering in mid air, freaking out asking "what am I looking at?!" lol
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
i had a BIT of salvia once, definitely not as hardcore as you lol.
i cuold still move and see..well i could barely move lol but what i saw was like this.
everything in the room had this jiggling 'cell' looking thnigs aroudn the edge.. so for example my friend would have a jiggling edge all around his body outlining him lol
was an interesting experience for me already 
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United States3824 Posts
On January 23 2010 13:24 ghermination wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2010 13:23 cgrinker wrote:1k mg of DXM? That's pretty brave dude How long did you have afterglow from that? Only about 2 days actually. I did an agent lemon extraction on delsym to make DXM freebase.
Yeah I actually found a store that sells it in pure tablets. I think it's hard to find because they are worried about kids using it so they decide it would be better to poison them with acetaminophen
not that I have space in my schedule for the reboot time these days to do anything with it. Also I feel like I'm stupider for the wear 
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Damn... 40X is strong... if I was doign that I would make a tincture ... not smoke it
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the hardest drug i've done was ibuprofen
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All my salvia experiences have been similar to that, I start tripping the fuck out then don't remember the rest, only to be suddenly brought back to reality.
Shroom trips are much more enjoyable imo, where it gradually sets in, you peak, and then it gradually wears off, and you're conscious the whole time.
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On January 23 2010 14:10 meeple wrote:
Damn... 40X is strong... if I was doign that I would make a tincture ... not smoke it
This wasn't an option, i had to smoke it out of the bong.
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On January 23 2010 14:30 Alphonsse wrote:
All my salvia experiences have been similar to that, I start tripping the fuck out then don't remember the rest, only to be suddenly brought back to reality.
Shroom trips are much more enjoyable imo, where it gradually sets in, you peak, and then it gradually wears off, and you're conscious the whole time.
I've done a mushroom trip of 3 ounces dried Psilocybe Cyanescans, steeped in 500ml of hot water to make an extremely potent tea. I drank it all, and then even bravely ate the mushroom mush. I tripped so hard that i was convinced throwing rice on the ground would form Caterpillars =\.
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Lol your doing amateur drugs, why don't you try some heroin and meth!
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United States13896 Posts
Salvia stories are always freaking insane. This is like the 5th account I've heard now and every one is equally crazy. I remember an acquaintance describing what he remembered of his trip: his body transformed into a tree and he could feel roots and branches growing from his feet and arms, all while other crazy shit was going on that I can't remember now.
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I've only ever tripped salvia, and I really really enjoyed it. I spent a few good minutes as a candy bar with a liquid exterior in the center of the universe. It felt very natural actually. The next time I did it I didn't even trip. I laughed myself to coughing though.
The most startling thing about the first trip was the extent I could not sense my environment. I could not see, and if it was life or death for me to stand up I couldn't bring myself to do it... Or even understand what standing up was.
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On January 23 2010 14:42 ghermination wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2010 14:30 Alphonsse wrote:
All my salvia experiences have been similar to that, I start tripping the fuck out then don't remember the rest, only to be suddenly brought back to reality.
Shroom trips are much more enjoyable imo, where it gradually sets in, you peak, and then it gradually wears off, and you're conscious the whole time. I've done a mushroom trip of 3 ounces dried Psilocybe Cyanescans, steeped in 500ml of hot water to make an extremely potent tea. I drank it all, and then even bravely ate the mushroom mush. I tripped so hard that i was convinced throwing rice on the ground would form Caterpillars =\.
that sounds like a lot of fun though. :D
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lol my last salv trip was so messed up, just laughed non-stop at everything, and when i thought i was done a fly landed on my leg and i just exploded laughing...lol good times...good times...
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On January 23 2010 13:24 ghermination wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2010 13:23 cgrinker wrote:1k mg of DXM? That's pretty brave dude How long did you have afterglow from that? Only about 2 days actually. I did an agent lemon extraction on delsym to make DXM freebase.
English plz.
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Korea (South)11570 Posts
Last time I did DXM (a few months ago) I hit sigma plateau. That is absolutely crazy.
I only have done 20x Salvia and that was pretty meh. I was in the belief that I was a dwarf from Snow White and the seven dwarfs and was going to be late for work, so I walked around with my knees bent really low. Then I remember being on the ground rolling around doing and saying random shit. Just doesn't last long enough imo
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On January 23 2010 16:28 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Last time I did DXM (a few months ago) I hit sigma plateau. That is absolutely crazy.
I only have done 20x Salvia and that was pretty meh. I was in the belief that I was a dwarf from Snow White and the seven dwarfs and was going to be late for work, so I walked around with my knees bent really low. Then I remember being on the ground rolling around doing and saying random shit. Just doesn't last long enough imo
I can't find the exact online link i used for mine, but here's the strongest standardized extract i can find online.
http://www.salviasupply.com/our-products/Salvia-Divinorum-Extract-30x i Paid a slightly lower price for the 40x.
Salvia is legal in all countries in Europe as far as i know, although it is illegal in several states in the US. Please research whether or not you live in an illegal state before you buy this.
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I tried a 20x and a 40x and a 60x, I even found an actual salvia plant and took the leaves from it(these little orange leaves) and I'd lace a marijuana joint with it.
The 20x, 40x were funny like, I'd trip hardcore(my experience: My friends' apartment flipped over and I was walking on the ceiling, but, when I'd look up to see my friends on the floor, they were FAAAAAAAAR away, wayyy up, like, it made me lose control) but I didn't have a "holy fuck was that even safe?" trip until I tried the 60x. The orange leaves would make me and my friends giggle for a long time and the 20x and 40x made us trip a little but, once we sparked up that 60x...
It was like the death of saliva.. I thought I could see lightning going across the walls and I became part of my couch for a long time, the left side. I then tried to look around on the floor and the floor would move away from my feet, as if I was being raised on a pedestal. I never really wanted to try it again after this... poor saliva.
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You guys are craaaaazy. I've done weed a few times and was scared shitless the entire time freaking out. I'd probably lose my mind and jump off a balcony if I did anything worse.
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On January 24 2010 02:56 Bebop07 wrote:
You guys are craaaaazy. I've done weed a few times and was scared shitless the entire time freaking out. I'd probably lose my mind and jump off a balcony if I did anything worse.
It's a really good thing that you respect the (mental) trauma that certain psychadelics can cause.
Other than that your fears are baseless, nothing else makes you paranoid quite like them. Try some DXM and you will feel like a god.
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On January 24 2010 03:11 ghermination wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2010 02:56 Bebop07 wrote:
You guys are craaaaazy. I've done weed a few times and was scared shitless the entire time freaking out. I'd probably lose my mind and jump off a balcony if I did anything worse. It's a really good thing that you respect the (mental) trauma that certain psychadelics can cause. Other than that your fears are baseless, nothing else makes you paranoid quite like them. Try some DXM and you will feel like a god. Maybe someday. Just the whole weed experience was always so awful, bit scary to do anything else.
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Korea (South)11570 Posts
How was weed scary? All weed does for me is make me extremely tired and relaxed.
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On January 24 2010 05:29 CaucasianAsian wrote:
How was weed scary? All weed does for me is make me extremely tired and relaxed. I had extreme paranoia. Like..insecure thoughts nonstop, and I kept feeling like somehow everyone in the room could hear them. A lot of it might of been due to the fact I did it with people I didn't really like what so ever. I wasnt comfortable at all.
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Korea (South)11570 Posts
That's one of the first rules of doing any drug or substance (alcohol) in my opinion. Always do them with people who you are completely comfortable with, or you won't have fun!
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Until you get more experienced, you really need to feel very comfortable even with something as light as weed. I was in as safe and relaxed an environment as possible the first time I smoked out, and it was still pretty unsettling for a while. It's just a completely foreign experience to anything you can get without drugs.
Don't completely write off weed yet, Bebop. It's rather scary at first, but now I can smoke a crapload then drive on a crowded highway to go see a slasher flick and be completely fine. You'll just learn to accept and love the bizarre new place it takes you to and it won't seem unsettling anymore.
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It might just be that I'm super tired with too much sugar and caffeine in my bloodstream but reading this really gave me funny feelings similar to recalling the effects of my deepest trips (having never done any heavy drugs / strong psychadelics, I guess this amounts to weed & alcohol combined) and the idea of doing that potent a salvia strain blows my mind. I've never heard of someone having a really great trip on it... having watched my brother do it a couple of times I don't really know what to think of it. Seems to create a heavy out-of-body experience for 5-10 minutes and then it's done.
What's the allure?
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Strong drugs aren't for everyone. There's the rabid anti-drug crowd and then there's the opposite end which is just as bad.
Drugs like Salvia can give you really awful trips which can have long-lasting trauma beyond just the trip itself. Salvia operates on the pain centers in the brain and the trips can be hideous, to the point of inducing psychotic episodes.
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Yeah I've tried 30 or 40 they had up to 100x in a lil plastic thing back then.
Now I think it's off shelves.
I tried to do this and that on salvia and came to a rather tepid conclusion that salvia isn't fun or cool.
I could talk about seeing kids, or my roommate wandering around outside of our yard clueless or trying to peel myself off a 2-D plane, but it's no fun to tell, just trying to peel yourself off the floor is nuts.
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I did some shrooms once where i swear i was lowered down into the ceiling(yes, ceiling) - i don't think i can explain it more exact than that.. It was an extremely frightening experience (Especially because the ceiling was like a tv screen between channels with the SHHHHH sound and the snow and stuff) so i havent done shrooms since.
I was a watcher for 2 friends that did salvia though, and good thing i was there as one of them somehow got hold of an axe while the other dove down the stairs head first (He was "fighting a baby tooth" or some shit)
Man drugs are so weird, the hardest shit i'm on now is cigarettes :D
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The first time I did salvia, I exhaled slowly and I felt myself pulled into the couch as reality dissolved in the smoke I exhaled. The The couch and my friend both looked as they they were made of straws bundled together, and I looked at him and managed to gasp out EVERYTHING IS MADE OF STRAWS. He laughed and my reac tion apparently was funny because he just continued to laugh. I felt guilty like I shouldn't be tripping. I looked up at the wall, and the wall expanded, and I saw fields with fences between them, like it was a pasture that was expanding from my wall. Then I couldn't see anything normal.
I've done LSD, DXM, DMT, and magic mushrooms, and salvia was more intense than any of them, and not in a good way.
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United States3573 Posts
That's why I don't want to try Salvia, it doesn't sound fun at all, lol.
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You don't necessarily do Salvia because you find the experience enjoyable. Some people do find it pleasant, but the reason to do Salvia is because you get something out of the experience. It's not "fun," but through your trips you expand your horizons and grow your consciousness beyond where it was before.
It's more of something you look back and reflect on than something you enjoy in the moment.
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On January 23 2010 16:02 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2010 13:24 ghermination wrote:On January 23 2010 13:23 cgrinker wrote:1k mg of DXM? That's pretty brave dude How long did you have afterglow from that? Only about 2 days actually. I did an agent lemon extraction on delsym to make DXM freebase. English plz.
Haha, my thoughts exactly.
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For someone who has never done anything like this and probably never will I have a question. When you guys explain these trips you have the things you see are in vivid detail as we see things when we aren't on drugs or is it just an interpretation that feels real although you know that it is not.
Let me try to further explain. Right now as I type this I can see the letters on the screen so I therefore know they exist. When you are tripping do you vividly see these things (such as people as goblins or being a tree) or do you mostly just feel them and interpret the experience as a description rather than vividly seeing it.
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They sell 80x in a pipe shop on Broadway in Denver but also have 160x which is the strongest you can get.. I am sure people will tell you otherwise but this shit is pretty professionally marketed so I assume it's legit. I have tripped salvia twice.
The first time I was on my couch, we put on some music and I ripped the bong. After about 25 seconds I was consumed by an intense gripping feeling like the room was being zipped up around me. i laughed hysterically for about 30 seconds. Imagine you are laughing as hard as you can then multiple that by 50; that is how funny the world seems at that moment. After that the room started morphing into a creature, my friend on the right side of the wall became a giant tooth and the carpet was a tongue. I was drenched in sweat after the trip because the room had turned into an alligator jaw. It was fucking real i swear!!! That is most of what I remember I probably left out a few minor details. It seems to take forever but really only takes about 10-15 minutes tops. This was the result of a medium sized hit of 80x.
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My strangest salvia trip was seeing myself in a blank room (like the time chamber in DBZ) and I could see myself in 3rd person, about 5 meters above my head. It was pretty crazy. Then there were some black holes in the ground and I was afraid of them. The moved and talked but I couldn't understand what they were saying. It was like some kind of alien language. This was the most strange one I had with salvia but had many out body experiences with ayahuasca which is far weirder and mind expanding :D
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Sick trip Hypnosis :O
Where is this place in denver? I've only ever bought the stuff from The Root on the hill in boulder. I think it's 40x and it is amazingly good. (lol it's also covered in nazi iconography.)
On January 26 2010 06:30 kidd wrote:
For someone who has never done anything like this and probably never will I have a question. When you guys explain these trips you have the things you see are in vivid detail as we see things when we aren't on drugs or is it just an interpretation that feels real although you know that it is not.
Let me try to further explain. Right now as I type this I can see the letters on the screen so I therefore know they exist. When you are tripping do you vividly see these things (such as people as goblins or being a tree) or do you mostly just feel them and interpret the experience as a description rather than vividly seeing it.
My experience is limited to salvia, but when I took it I was as certain as I am typing now that I was a melting candy bar. That being said I often couldn't actually give words to what was happening. The truth is most of the experience was beyond english for me, but what I describe comes incredibly close.
Another thing to keep in mind is that, at least with salvia, there are other effects than the psychedelic trip which make some things harder to comprehend. For example, uncontrollable laughter is a very common side effect and that taints the experience. Another one is the feeling of being pulled down. As weird as it sounds it'd describe it more as being pulled sideways through reality. These in combination are so strong it is often hard to focus.
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@leper. Its on Broadway and Dartmouth (about 200 feet south of that. It's called Smoke Signals. They have a ton of pipes, hookahs and weird shit too, check it out!
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On January 26 2010 06:30 kidd wrote:
For someone who has never done anything like this and probably never will I have a question. When you guys explain these trips you have the things you see are in vivid detail as we see things when we aren't on drugs or is it just an interpretation that feels real although you know that it is not.
Let me try to further explain. Right now as I type this I can see the letters on the screen so I therefore know they exist. When you are tripping do you vividly see these things (such as people as goblins or being a tree) or do you mostly just feel them and interpret the experience as a description rather than vividly seeing it.
With salvia you enter another dimension and the hallucinations sometimes aren't clear after the trip ends. With LSD everything is really vivid and real and you can remeber perfectly what you saw. Same with mushrooms, DMT, ayahuasca, etc.
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Tired it last night.. Terrible trip lol.. i was terrified.
so basically I could see my 'time line' with a bunch of frames. I could see what just happened what was currently happening and what was about to happen.. In the 'future' frames, i could see/hear myself screaming and crying although in the present frames i was perfectly fine. I than realized that the me's in the past frames imploded and ceased to exist which scared the shit out of me because i knew i would eventually reach that point as present became past and future became present. Which led me to be scared and screaming like i had seen in the future frames. When i realized the future frames had become what was currently happening I knew that my whole life was planned out and every thing i did would eventually lead down that road.
I soon after noticed in the far corner a strange yellow being pulling levers and shit apparently controlling the frames and in doing so controlling my life. He noticed me noticing him and smiled, i was at his mercy.
the worst though was this feeling of deja vue and a certainty that this was real during the whole time it was happening.
all in all pretty scary. I hope next time will be sweet XD
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On January 26 2010 06:30 kidd wrote:
For someone who has never done anything like this and probably never will I have a question. When you guys explain these trips you have the things you see are in vivid detail as we see things when we aren't on drugs or is it just an interpretation that feels real although you know that it is not.
Let me try to further explain. Right now as I type this I can see the letters on the screen so I therefore know they exist. When you are tripping do you vividly see these things (such as people as goblins or being a tree) or do you mostly just feel them and interpret the experience as a description rather than vividly seeing it.
you see them and you believe in them (at least for me)
I was actually 100% sure that what i was seeing was the real world and what we see now is just a cover.
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On May 23 2010 18:50 lesser_good wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 06:30 kidd wrote:
For someone who has never done anything like this and probably never will I have a question. When you guys explain these trips you have the things you see are in vivid detail as we see things when we aren't on drugs or is it just an interpretation that feels real although you know that it is not.
Let me try to further explain. Right now as I type this I can see the letters on the screen so I therefore know they exist. When you are tripping do you vividly see these things (such as people as goblins or being a tree) or do you mostly just feel them and interpret the experience as a description rather than vividly seeing it. you see them and you believe in them (at least for me) I was actually 100% sure that what i was seeing was the real world and what we see now is just a cover.
whos to say that isnt true?
ah-ha!
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