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On January 20 2010 20:59 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2010 20:40 MYM.Testie wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I thought I saw a man brought to life He was warm He came around And he was dignified He showed me what it was to cry
Well you couldn't be that man I adored You don't seem to know Or seem to care What your heart is for I don't know him anymore
There's nothin' where he used to lie My conversation has run dry That's what's going on Nothings right I'm torn
I'm all out of faith This is how I feel I'm cold and I am shamed Lying naked on the floor Illusion never changed Into something real I'm wide awake and I can see the perfect sky is torn You're a little late I'm already torn
So I guess the fortune tellers right I should have seen just what was there and not some holy light But you crawled beneath my veins And now, I don't care I have no luck I don't miss it all that much There's just so many things That I can't touch I'm torn
There's nothin' he used to lie My inspiration has run dry That's what's going on Nothing's right I'm torn
Pholon's you're-a-douche-o-meter+ - - - - - - - - | - +It's a serious topic for him, one'd think you could take something as serious as TSL seriousl-oh wait NEVERMIND, Hi Testie!
I thought my post was completely harmless. I see why your douche-o-meter is named after you.
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if you go with t, your time in korea will have been for nothing. if you go with t and lose you will ask yourself why you didnt stick with z and blame yourself. if you go with t, you let the desire for money dictate your life. if you go with t you prove nothing other than that you have given up. thinking about going with tvz is doubting yourself, its the opposite of confidence and creates a win-win situation for castro, showing him that regardless of what your choice will be he is going to face you in a matchup that you didnt prepare the best you could, game-wise and mentally.
dont give yourself up just because not everything went as it could have with estro. after considering everything, play what you are most comfortable with, not only during the game but after it. you are still ret, but who this ret is is determined by every decision you make. who are you, ret?
good luck.
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Canada9720 Posts
"be a man" "stick with it"
lmfao
how about "win the fucking TSL" ?
tvz
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Sweden33719 Posts
TvZ is way cooler than ZvZ.
if you go with t, you let the desire for money dictate your life Assuming this is true, then he should definitely go with T as winning is the goal and winning = money
There' also the whole issue of ZvZ being a suicide inducing matchup and TvZ being the most fun you can have in SC.
I have NO idea if Ret's TvZ or ZvZ is better tho, so obv I can't offer any kind of serious advice. I would, however, imagine that Ret didn't switch to ZvZ because he decided he loves that matchup, but more because he was forced to if he wanted to play in Korea.
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On January 20 2010 20:59 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2010 20:40 MYM.Testie wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I thought I saw a man brought to life He was warm He came around And he was dignified He showed me what it was to cry
Well you couldn't be that man I adored You don't seem to know Or seem to care What your heart is for I don't know him anymore
There's nothin' where he used to lie My conversation has run dry That's what's going on Nothings right I'm torn
I'm all out of faith This is how I feel I'm cold and I am shamed Lying naked on the floor Illusion never changed Into something real I'm wide awake and I can see the perfect sky is torn You're a little late I'm already torn
So I guess the fortune tellers right I should have seen just what was there and not some holy light But you crawled beneath my veins And now, I don't care I have no luck I don't miss it all that much There's just so many things That I can't touch I'm torn
There's nothin' he used to lie My inspiration has run dry That's what's going on Nothing's right I'm torn
Pholon's you're-a-douche-o-meter+ - - - - - - - - | - +It's a serious topic for him, one'd think you could take something as serious as TSL seriousl-oh wait NEVERMIND, Hi Testie! and testie made a serious post. a good post on top of that. its no insult, its not off-topic, its spot on. your post on the other hand contained: insult
and thats it, effectively reducing it to spam. if i were a mod youd been at least warned for that. try to use arguments to back your opposing opinion up next time. or dont act to high and mighty because of it.
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I get all wiggly and jiggly when I think of rets tvz back in the day
Realistically though, switch back to TvZ only if you're gonna have enough time to get yo skills back to to top form
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On January 20 2010 21:02 MYM.Testie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2010 20:59 Pholon wrote:On January 20 2010 20:40 MYM.Testie wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I thought I saw a man brought to life He was warm He came around And he was dignified He showed me what it was to cry
Well you couldn't be that man I adored You don't seem to know Or seem to care What your heart is for I don't know him anymore
There's nothin' where he used to lie My conversation has run dry That's what's going on Nothings right I'm torn
I'm all out of faith This is how I feel I'm cold and I am shamed Lying naked on the floor Illusion never changed Into something real I'm wide awake and I can see the perfect sky is torn You're a little late I'm already torn
So I guess the fortune tellers right I should have seen just what was there and not some holy light But you crawled beneath my veins And now, I don't care I have no luck I don't miss it all that much There's just so many things That I can't touch I'm torn
There's nothin' he used to lie My inspiration has run dry That's what's going on Nothing's right I'm torn
Pholon's you're-a-douche-o-meter+ - - - - - - - - | - +It's a serious topic for him, one'd think you could take something as serious as TSL seriousl-oh wait NEVERMIND, Hi Testie! I thought my post was completely harmless. I see why your douche-o-meter is named after you.
testie - Pholon 1-0
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United States17042 Posts
If you just want to win tsl, go ahead and play TvZ. If you want to shoot for the stars, and have a shot at getting through tsl into korea, you'll probably need to learn how to play ZvZ.
edit: I mean, play ZvZ at a high level. Obviously your ZvZ must be pretty good if you're even thinking about playing ZvZ instead of TvZ, as you normally do.
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Canada5565 Posts
Terran. If you're unsure about Zerg see how Terran feels in practice and make your decision, but don't stick with Zerg because you think you should.
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race picking is fucking chobo
youre a zerg player, use zerg
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While i agree that i'd like to see your TvZ way more than another ZvZ i seriously think you should make that decision yourself since nobody knows on what lvl your TvZ is nowadays. You'll have regrets either way if you drop out so just go with wathever youre more confident.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
ZvZ is a luckfest
And I'd rather see a shitton of ZvT out of you than a mass of ZvZ
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On January 20 2010 20:59 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2010 20:40 MYM.Testie wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I thought I saw a man brought to life He was warm He came around And he was dignified He showed me what it was to cry
Well you couldn't be that man I adored You don't seem to know Or seem to care What your heart is for I don't know him anymore
There's nothin' where he used to lie My conversation has run dry That's what's going on Nothings right I'm torn
I'm all out of faith This is how I feel I'm cold and I am shamed Lying naked on the floor Illusion never changed Into something real I'm wide awake and I can see the perfect sky is torn You're a little late I'm already torn
So I guess the fortune tellers right I should have seen just what was there and not some holy light But you crawled beneath my veins And now, I don't care I have no luck I don't miss it all that much There's just so many things That I can't touch I'm torn
There's nothin' he used to lie My inspiration has run dry That's what's going on Nothing's right I'm torn
Pholon's you're-a-douche-o-meter+ - - - - - - - - | - +It's a serious topic for him, one'd think you could take something as serious as TSL seriousl-oh wait NEVERMIND, Hi Testie!
lol.. why does your meter go from positive.... to positive?
ontopic: I want to see some ret TvZ. gogogo
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Zerg, that can't really be a question ret
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On January 20 2010 21:39 Plexa wrote: ZvZ is a luckfest sarcasm much?
its just more demanding than other matchups when it comes to following your opponent closely (how many drones and zerglings he makes, when spire starts) and having good micro to defend the bo you went with or abuse the speed of your units. its very challenging, but this is starcraft and not poker. luck never decides a starcraft game.
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You have to play Zerg cos I already posted my TSL2 bracket contest entry based on that fact omg
Race-picking is kinda lame like what if CaStrO decided he wants to play TvZ too? Can't he just say that and then you have to default to ZvZ? Not sure on the rules concerning this...
Pholon stop trying to be funny makes me embarrassed to be your friend
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 20 2010 21:47 enzym wrote:sarcasm much? its just more demanding than other matchups when it comes to following your opponent closely (how many drones and zerglings he makes, when spire starts) and having good micro to defend the bo you went with or abuse the speed of your units. its very challenging, but this is starcraft and not poker. luck never decides a starcraft game. You're trying to argue that of all matchups in starcraft that zvz is the one which luck plays the biggest part?
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On January 20 2010 21:47 enzym wrote:sarcasm much? its just more demanding than other matchups when it comes to following your opponent closely (how many drones and zerglings he makes, when spire starts) and having good micro to defend the bo you went with or abuse the speed of your units. its very challenging, but this is starcraft and not poker. luck never decides a starcraft game.
What about in ZvZ on a four player map where your opponent send ovie in correct direction and you do not?
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On January 20 2010 22:01 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2010 21:47 enzym wrote:On January 20 2010 21:39 Plexa wrote: ZvZ is a luckfest sarcasm much? its just more demanding than other matchups when it comes to following your opponent closely (how many drones and zerglings he makes, when spire starts) and having good micro to defend the bo you went with or abuse the speed of your units. its very challenging, but this is starcraft and not poker. luck never decides a starcraft game. You're trying to argue that of all matchups in starcraft that zvz is the one which luck plays the biggest part?
yes.
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