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Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 08:05:36
January 13 2010 07:48 GMT
#1
Hi Tl, tonight I am going to tell you a story of heartbreak.

Our story begins on everyone's favorite ridge, as it is the most popular motw. On this chilly Canadian evening Wr3k was feeling adventurous and decided to play some iccup games in an attempt to go from C- to C.

Proud of his C-, and feeling confident, he felt that this was doable, and that he would at least be able to maintain his C-. Little did he know, he was in for some dairy. What looked like a night of fun slowly turned into a night of Cheesecraft.

It is unclear what happened in the chaos, but no longer a proud C-, Wr3k slowly spiraled into a state of anger and rage, he even became slightly depressed and began to keep track of his backwards progress in the form of a list.

4 bunker rushes....

6 forge blocks / cannon rushes... from 6 different protoss (in all varieties, whether it be blocking choke or behind the mineral lines)

proxy 2 gates...

A turtling hydralisk ZvZ player who began lagging so badly muta micro was impossible...

even a 2 gate pylon/zealot/sheild battery contain...

Wr3k was so discouraged he even attempted to off-race protoss to win a single game. Unfortunately the BBS was ready for him...

For some reason he trudged on through the sticky cheese, determined to win a couple games before going to sleep, very much to his dismay, he continued to lose, even while overpooling to be safe and fend off the cheese every game. Something about the anger and being tired from 8am classes had gotten to him. It was a disaster, he failed and failed, yet kept on playing...

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LESSONS LEARNED:
-Don't 12 hatch too often, it results in being aggravated.
-Scout the cliffs on HBR with your second overlord more often.
-Don't keep playing when you are angry and tired, it only makes it worse.
-Stop being lazy and actually do some proper drone scouting.




***
spoolinoveryou
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States503 Posts
January 13 2010 07:51 GMT
#2
loooool. i feel you man.. <3333

theres always another day of fighting on the battlefield.
whats good?
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 08:06:10
January 13 2010 08:04 GMT
#3
that is a saddening matchlist

if i might add to your lessons, scout with your 9th drone for the forge cheese vs p, and the opponents base vs t. dont 12hatch on 2player maps at all, and if you see a proxy gateway, cancel your natural, build it in your base, and send your 6 lings to your opponents main while sunkening your own main.
aka DragOn[NaS]
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 13 2010 08:05 GMT
#4
Man, my screen looks pretty damned similar to yours.
I was 13-15 (after winning around 8 straight games).
I started playing Hearbreak Ridge.
I ended at 13-25 and reset stats.
Now I'm somewhere around 1-2 or something.
Damn you HBR
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DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
January 13 2010 08:07 GMT
#5
LOOOOL holy shit, you sir, are an inspiration.

Wr3k FOR PRESIDENT
ToyotaDemon
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia150 Posts
January 13 2010 08:09 GMT
#6
Just 4 pool? LOL
rawr
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
January 13 2010 08:10 GMT
#7
i feel for you man. the tosses out there were brutal tonight. idk how i kept playing (and losing) for as long as i did
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
January 13 2010 08:10 GMT
#8
On the other hand, my laddering day on everyone's favorite ridge was great, partly thanks to you. By the way, typing "..." and then ragequitting isn't very nice...
intrudor
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada446 Posts
January 13 2010 08:24 GMT
#9
Starcrafting might not be your cup of tea ^______^
USER MIGHT BE WARNED FOR THIS COMMENT
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
January 13 2010 08:32 GMT
#10
Ouch. We feel your pain.
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
January 13 2010 08:36 GMT
#11
wowwwww
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 08:39:08
January 13 2010 08:38 GMT
#12
that's actually pretty amazing
ps 9pool is 100% counter to any cheese thx
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 08:57:32
January 13 2010 08:39 GMT
#13
Pick a better name.

If I see a lame/weird name from a country that isn't korea it is normally a precursor to me doing something EXTREMLY ABUSIVE.



OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 13 2010 08:39 GMT
#14
ooo man
uglymoose89
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States671 Posts
January 13 2010 08:42 GMT
#15
dang that sucks, well get some sleep and try again! and don't play koreans!
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
January 13 2010 09:00 GMT
#16
you are one patient man
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
January 13 2010 09:02 GMT
#17
aww man, this makes me cry and laugh at the same time.
this game is a fucking jokie
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
January 13 2010 09:04 GMT
#18
IF you find yourself on a losing streak or feel upset at a game you just played, the obvious answer is to take a break. when you go on tilt, you tend to screw things up. I'm sure you can handle cheese, but in the state of mind you were in at that time, you were just digging yourself into a hole. taking a break is key, even if it means not playing for the rest of the night or taking a week off, etc.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 13 2010 09:23 GMT
#19
ouch. don't worry though.. there will be better days for you. heartbreak ridge is just sometimes.. heartbreaking.
Brood War loyalist
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43210 Posts
January 13 2010 09:29 GMT
#20
lol. nO representing!
Sick streak man.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
January 13 2010 09:33 GMT
#21
5/5 for perseverance and determination.
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
January 13 2010 09:37 GMT
#22
lol tsl-saracen xD
Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
January 13 2010 09:43 GMT
#23
Haha, I know you're gonna hate me for saying this, but learn to scout properly on cheesebrake ridge. 9 drone scout against t to check cliff and proxys, 10 or 11 drone scout against p to check for forge blocks. I've pwned the shit of out the cheesers recently by consistently scouting properly.
And oh, I feel your pain, I've had homicidal thoughts just losing a couple of games to p/t cheeses, what you experienced would have driven me suicidal or really fucking drunk to ease the pain :S.
"It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers", Dukethegold
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 13 2010 10:05 GMT
#24
lol that sucks dude
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
January 13 2010 10:23 GMT
#25
damn i thought i had a bad streak last night

though my least favorite cheese of all time is 8 rax into vults into wraiths -_-
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
January 13 2010 10:30 GMT
#26
sucks to be you man.

from c- to d
I am not good with quotes
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
January 13 2010 10:42 GMT
#27
yes hbr is indeed gay
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
Ecnerwal
Profile Joined August 2009
Singapore43 Posts
January 13 2010 11:09 GMT
#28
haha.. hafta admire your spirit to keep going.. i thought my 10 straight losses were depressing...

i really feel for you
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
January 13 2010 12:13 GMT
#29
I quite like ZvP on HBR because its so predictable that tosses will cheese. Cheese is basically an instant win if you learn to be paranoid at scouting. Always check your choke at ~9-10 drones, the cliff behind your nat and send an ovie to the mineral patch by the temple. That should be enough. There's no harm going overpool against protoss, because it forces them to go cannons first instead of nexus so you aren't behind.

Against terran if you drone scout early enough you can see whether or not to go pool or hat first. On ICCup its kind of important because so many people cheese.
Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 12:33:40
January 13 2010 12:33 GMT
#30
I love cheesecraft. I used to play it all day long, when I got to C+ :D
I pwn noobs
peanutter
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 12:50:30
January 13 2010 12:49 GMT
#31
that's some serious downswing. play your solid game for the long run
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
January 13 2010 13:17 GMT
#32
25 losses in a row?
That's perseverance.
Maybe you should reset now though to gain your confidence back.

I lol'd when I saw sodamist though, I beat him in 5 minutes with marines only.
Sullifam
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
January 13 2010 15:13 GMT
#33
i play zerg and I love HBR! and at least being cheesed on that map is not as annoying as playing on desti vs. a turtling mech terran.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Draconizard
Profile Joined October 2008
628 Posts
January 13 2010 15:18 GMT
#34
You either have amazingly high levels of perseverance or are some sort of sadomasochist. O.O

I pretty much lose any inclination to continue playing after like three or four losses, especially if they were from cheese.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
January 13 2010 15:42 GMT
#35
Pengu1n
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States552 Posts
January 13 2010 17:54 GMT
#36
damn most of those games were really short you need to adapt your builds
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4211 Posts
January 13 2010 18:08 GMT
#37
Yuck. I thought that I felt dumb after losing to a cannon rushed twice in a row this season. I feel for ya, although I don't have a clue how you actually feel.....
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 18:14:50
January 13 2010 18:14 GMT
#38
I was pretty annoyed last night, but right now I honestly just feel that I was playing like a dumbass, and that I should be able to fend off that crap most of the time. Doesn't really bother me now that I've slept on it, I'm just back to where I was last week . I know what I did wrong in almost every single one of those games, its just a matter of being focused and fixing it now.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
January 13 2010 18:16 GMT
#39
On January 13 2010 17:10 Saracen wrote:
On the other hand, my laddering day on everyone's favorite ridge was great, partly thanks to you. By the way, typing "..." and then ragequitting isn't very nice...


Yeah sorry about that, I'm usually not BM, I was just.... in a mood so to speak hahaha.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
January 13 2010 18:17 GMT
#40
On January 13 2010 18:29 KwarK wrote:
lol. nO representing!
Sick streak man.


BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 13 2010 18:55 GMT
#41
Lol if I ever play on HBR I guess I should play cheesecraft too
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
January 13 2010 19:09 GMT
#42
On January 14 2010 03:14 Wr3k wrote:
I was pretty annoyed last night, but right now I honestly just feel that I was playing like a dumbass, and that I should be able to fend off that crap most of the time. Doesn't really bother me now that I've slept on it, I'm just back to where I was last week . I know what I did wrong in almost every single one of those games, its just a matter of being focused and fixing it now.


That's a good attitude to have
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
January 13 2010 20:41 GMT
#43
On January 14 2010 03:55 BanZu wrote:
Lol if I ever play on HBR I guess I should play cheesecraft too


It only works against bad zergs like me
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 02:40:52
January 14 2010 02:40 GMT
#44
On January 14 2010 05:41 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 03:55 BanZu wrote:
Lol if I ever play on HBR I guess I should play cheesecraft too


It only works against bad zergs like me


ok here is the deal. My name is attackzerg. I attack because defending fucking sucks. Don't defend cheese, destory it. 9pool everygame.

Fun fact in every matchup at d/d+/c- you can 9pool not kill a unit and if you have the basic drone saturation/tech timings down you can make an economic recovery to play a macro game.

Think PedalToTheMedalZerg. Learning to attack very aggressively is good at lower levels. You work on micro+multitasking + macro while harrassing.

jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
January 14 2010 04:16 GMT
#45
I'm at a loss for words. I am so sorry for you lol
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
January 14 2010 04:23 GMT
#46
On January 14 2010 03:16 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 17:10 Saracen wrote:
On the other hand, my laddering day on everyone's favorite ridge was great, partly thanks to you. By the way, typing "..." and then ragequitting isn't very nice...


Yeah sorry about that, I'm usually not BM, I was just.... in a mood so to speak hahaha.


lol, if this is even close to the worst "BM" you did in that streak, you are definitely in the 99th percentile of manner
skating
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
January 14 2010 04:44 GMT
#47
I feel so bad for you. I woulda smashed something if i lost to 10 cheese in a row
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
January 14 2010 05:28 GMT
#48
+1 for FML worthy.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 14 2010 06:04 GMT
#49
I feel terrible just looking at that. I feel for you mate.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 14 2010 06:11 GMT
#50
you got cheesed by the same person 4 times? D:
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
January 14 2010 06:39 GMT
#51
it is actually impressive how many games you played. i would have quit after like my 4th loss lol
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
January 14 2010 06:56 GMT
#52
That is an impressive match list. I wish you good luck on your next iccup session.
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