• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:42
CEST 23:42
KST 06:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall9HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China1Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL63Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?13FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event22Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster16
StarCraft 2
General
Program: SC2 / XSplit / OBS Scene Switcher The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Statistics for vetoed/disliked maps Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form? PiG Sty Festival #5: Playoffs Preview + Groups Recap
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays Korean Starcraft League Week 77
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma
Brood War
General
SC uni coach streams logging into betting site Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion Practice Partners (Official)
Tourneys
[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL20] Grand Finals - Sunday 20:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2025! Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Blogs
Culture Clash in Video Games…
TrAiDoS
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 614 users

Foreign maps that I like.

Blogs > JMave
Post a Reply
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
January 05 2010 08:49 GMT
#1
Due to the competitive nature of Starcraft, most people only play KeSPA maps. There are hardly or no leagues out there that incorporate foreignerr maps into their map pool and so they are mostly left out and long forgotten.

But today, I want to showcase some of my favourite maps here from Broodwarmaps.net. There are many maps in here that I feel are really nice and IMO, I think the deco on foreigner maps is much nicer and more appealing that KeSPA maps. Just take note that these are just my own opinions and I can noob up sometimes so just take it easy.

First we have:

(2) Anything But This

[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
This map is really interesting. It has 2 entrances to your main base, one nearer to your main cc and another that is much further away. I can't really tell which is the natural of your base but I am going to assume its the one at the ramp furthest away from your main.

The potential issue I see with this is how extremely difficult FE would be on this map and how 3 hatch speedlings would be really good too.

But apart from that, i like the spacing, I like the deco and overall, I would rate this a 6/10 for its creative concept.



(2) Venom

[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
On a first glance, this map would bring resemblence Destination but howeever, it is almost nothing like it.

The bridges are much wider in this map and the east and west bases are now much more easily accessible from both sides, making it harder to take. Hence, these bases do not bear as much significance as Destination's did.

The bases and terrain that are beside the main were done extremely well. I really like the concept here where the base with the gas is quite vulnerable due to the wide main entrance and a little back door to that base. Excellent. I rate this one an 8/10




(3) Hamlet

[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
This map has really nice appeal to me. The deco done here is absolutely amazing. If you had taken a hand into map making, you'd understand how tough is it to make deco like that. The jungle terrain that's edited in the ruins terrain to look much smaller requires manual work to fit in the right pieces so that your terrain will look natural. This is really time consuming!

Apart from looks, the concept is nice. I like how this is almost like God's Garden with the exception that your third base, though easily accessible, has its mineral line really vulnerable to attack from the otuside and your forces can't really get there to deal with the harass.

Another thing that I feel a little odd is the symmetry and how tight the bases are. If say you spawn on the 4 o'clock and your opponent spawns on the 11 o'clock you will have a much easier time getting to your opponent's base rather than say if he had spawned in the 7 o'clock because you don't have to cross any bridge to get to his base.

The bridges also make this map really tight, meaning that terrans will have such a good time here because flanks are really hard to do here. But inaccessible also means a good play for carriers and arbiter so maybe that balances things out. 7/10 to me.




(2) Oro Lala 1.2

[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
This map is like a vertical Ride of the Valkyries with that high temple terrain extended all the way across the map. The exception is the nearby bases in that area and leave for quite good games to watch as the bases are easily taken and destroyed. However, defending the area from the widest ramp to the area outside of your natural can yield you an easy 2 bases.

The deco is decent but I feel that it is a little lackluster. 6/10


Well, hope you enjoyed some of these maps and definately give that mapping site a visit every now and then to appreciate the many great and unknown maps that others have made. Good day.

****
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 09:14:25
January 05 2010 08:59 GMT
#2
Sick blog post. I dig map recommendations because, like you said most people do, I just follow the Kespa maps. This means two things. 1) I don't have anything really to offer here. I wish I knew of more foreigner maps that I could show off to everyone. 2) I really hope that other folks post some more sick maps here. I want to expand my collection and try out some sweet new shit in the causal games that dominate my StarCraft play time.

EDIT: Hamlet looks particularly sweet. In general, I'm not good enough to care about balance if it's not really horrendous.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 05 2010 09:03 GMT
#3
i feel bad for foreign map makers cuz really, who actually uses their maps to play on lol ;\

and some of them look pretty awesome too.
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
January 05 2010 09:09 GMT
#4
oro lala looks pretty fun to play. the other 2 look like they would have some pretty severe balance issues though.
The Show of a Lifetime
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
January 05 2010 09:29 GMT
#5
Wow hamlet is just sick looking
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 05 2010 09:31 GMT
#6
The last one oro lala looks sick!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
January 05 2010 10:00 GMT
#7
am i missing something or is hamlet an island map? (until you mine out your natural)
FastEddieV
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States614 Posts
January 05 2010 10:45 GMT
#8
There are ramps that lead out of the natural, if my eyes don't deceive me.

Thanks for this blog post, it's really neat to see the ideas non-kespa mapmakers come up with.
platinum? more like leaf
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 05 2010 10:55 GMT
#9
On January 05 2010 19:00 skronch wrote:
am i missing something or is hamlet an island map? (until you mine out your natural)


Yeah, hamlet is an island map
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
January 05 2010 11:12 GMT
#10
Wow these are awesome iccup should put some foreign maps as motw. it would give them a ton of exposure.
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
Slugbreath
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden201 Posts
January 05 2010 12:39 GMT
#11
Nice blog post. I like it when people write on topics like these since it's a nice change from all the regular stuff going on.

Anything But This looks cool, but I guess that it will suffer greatly from rush all-ins seeing how it's a two player map with short rush distances and two entrances into the main. Too me it just feels like 4pooling would be too good to make any matchup including Zerg interesting.

Venom also looks cool but the fact that so much of the map is unbuildable will make quite a few terrans pull their hair since pushing will be difficult.

Hamlet then. While I dislike playing on island maps and semi-island maps (this one is a semi), this one does seem interesting. Island maps have traditionally suffered due to the fact that Zerg had such a hard time expanding and being effective early on due to, in part, the lack of gas. That is why Paradoxxx had two geysers in the main after all; to help Zerg.

This map, however looks more balanced in that way, but with five very easy-to-get gases, this might be reversed. Think of what five-gas-Zerg mutalisk would mean, concidering the fact that early agression is nonexistant. I think that TvZ could be a nightmare due to this.

However, the terran could of course float a barrack or a factory out of his base, land it and send a bunch of marines or vultures to the mineral line of the natural of the Zerg player, shutting that expansion down for a while, but that would mean less marines in the main when the mutalisks come, so I don't know...

Oro Lala 1.2 looks sweet. In many ways it resembles Ride of Valkyries, but turned 90 degrees. I fear that the third gas might be a little too easy to get though, which would make Zerg a powerhouse on this map. I would remove the top and bottom ramp, making the distance to the third gas just a bit longer and thus making defending it harder.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 05 2010 13:05 GMT
#12
On January 05 2010 21:39 Slugbreath wrote:
Nice blog post. I like it when people write on topics like these since it's a nice change from all the regular stuff going on.

Anything But This looks cool, but I guess that it will suffer greatly from rush all-ins seeing how it's a two player map with short rush distances and two entrances into the main. Too me it just feels like 4pooling would be too good to make any matchup including Zerg interesting.

Venom also looks cool but the fact that so much of the map is unbuildable will make quite a few terrans pull their hair since pushing will be difficult.

Hamlet then. While I dislike playing on island maps and semi-island maps (this one is a semi), this one does seem interesting. Island maps have traditionally suffered due to the fact that Zerg had such a hard time expanding and being effective early on due to, in part, the lack of gas. That is why Paradoxxx had two geysers in the main after all; to help Zerg.

This map, however looks more balanced in that way, but with five very easy-to-get gases, this might be reversed. Think of what five-gas-Zerg mutalisk would mean, concidering the fact that early agression is nonexistant. I think that TvZ could be a nightmare due to this.

However, the terran could of course float a barrack or a factory out of his base, land it and send a bunch of marines or vultures to the mineral line of the natural of the Zerg player, shutting that expansion down for a while, but that would mean less marines in the main when the mutalisks come, so I don't know...

Oro Lala 1.2 looks sweet. In many ways it resembles Ride of Valkyries, but turned 90 degrees. I fear that the third gas might be a little too easy to get though, which would make Zerg a powerhouse on this map. I would remove the top and bottom ramp, making the distance to the third gas just a bit longer and thus making defending it harder.


Tho terran has auto 14 cc on hamlet which makes up for that (at least a bit). I don't have any experience so I can't say anything about that map tho.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
January 05 2010 15:03 GMT
#13
I really like Anything But This, but how the hell are you supposed to FE in PvZ?

Anyway, i think ICCUP should start including more foreing maps, some of this look really fun to play on.
444 444 444 444
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL: ProLeague
18:00
Grand Finals - bo9
Dewalt vs Bonyth
ZZZero.O615
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Livibee 92
ProTech81
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 615
Terrorterran 43
League of Legends
Grubby4460
Dendi1322
Counter-Strike
fl0m1811
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King204
Chillindude77
Westballz49
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor803
Liquid`Hasu661
Other Games
summit1g4866
FrodaN2916
tarik_tv790
mouzStarbuck327
Pyrionflax208
ViBE124
elazer94
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick44472
EGCTV1715
BasetradeTV47
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 62
• Adnapsc2 25
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• 3DClanTV 101
• blackmanpl 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler140
League of Legends
• masondota2734
Other Games
• imaqtpie2305
• Shiphtur360
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
13h 18m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 12h
WardiTV European League
1d 18h
MaNa vs sebesdes
Mixu vs Fjant
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs goblin
Gerald vs Babymarine
Krystianer vs YoungYakov
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV European League
2 days
Jumy vs NightPhoenix
Percival vs Nicoract
ArT vs HiGhDrA
MaxPax vs Harstem
Scarlett vs Shameless
SKillous vs uThermal
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs Reynor
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs Cure
FEL
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
FEL
5 days
FEL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
FEL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2v2 Season 3
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSL Xiamen Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.