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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
December 29 2009 17:17 GMT
#1
I remember last season (Bacchus OSL, Avalon MSL), there was a lot of dissatisfaction among TLers in terms of lack of big name players and lack of dynamic matchups. Primarily, the excess of BoX ZvZ's, and the failures of big name players. Well, I hope this season, people are a little less bitter, a little more excited, and maybe we won't excuse resentment and unapologetic, blatant disrespect of players like before.

In the EVER OSL, we have one of each race in the semifinals, with no mirrors. That sounds like something we want. There's a chance that we could have *gasp* another ZvZ final, because the Movie-Shine series is practically a coin-flip (it's going to be the sickest series of the entire OSL, I feel). But even as a (Z)Calm fan, although he's proven he's no fluke, his ZvT isn't going to cut it as of now, so we are likely headed for a TvP or TvZ final. Now who wouldn't be happy with that? Non-mirror and non ZvZ. A Flash vs Movie has intrigue because... well it's Flash. People come for the big-name players. In addition, as one TLer put it, it would only strengthen Flash's run, because he would have win a Bo5 with his "worst" matchup. Also, Movie has a strong fanbase, and a royal roader winning the OSL, and going through Flash? That's history, right there. But what if Shine were to advance? People will still come for Flash. Also, Shine has an opportunity to make one of the greatest runs in OSL history, and to take down Flash at the absolute peak of his career. Whether or not we think Shine has a chance is irrelevant: all that matters is that I know you all will stay up late to watch the series even in the slight chance of Shine vs Calm, you can't be too miserable, because Calm beating Flash in a Bo5 legitimizes him sooo much that a ZvZ finals can't devalue his accomplishment, and would give him a second individual league title. As for Shine, should he win, he'll have beaten the two best protosses on earth, the next great hope of Aiur (Movie), and a former MSL champion (and no ZvZ slouch, either). But like I said: slight chance. And even if we end up with Flash absolutely crushing the competition, we'll remember it as one of the most dominant OSL runs ever.

As for the MSL, I know people are already happier this season that last. Even though there were some early big-name failures (as in every MSL), we are still primed for a great MSL. People are already drooling over the Best vs Flash series, as it is believed to be the best chance for someone to take down the unforgiving machine of destruction known as Flash. In addition, we have dark horse Kal vs teammate Hwasin, Jaedong vs the underrated Stats, and crazy-ass Kwanro vs Light. When I looked at the Ro8, I said, wow, just 2 zergs, but that includes the best zerg, and the most erratic zerg, so fans don't have to worry about being bored. Who knows what kind of epic matchups the semifinals could bring? Some fans are crossing their fingers and hoping for Jaedong and Flash to meet again, though they should also be hoping that Jaedong actually shows up this time.

I also figured that since terrans are doing better this season (including in the Proleague), and that protosses have finally been adapting to PvZ, general interest and spirit would be higher among fans. The proleague is already a gigantic hit thus far, even with the excess of mirrors.

So I truly hope that fans are happier with the leagues this season. There's a lot of good shit going on. Can Flash make history and win both starleagues? Will Shine cause TL to explode and cause suicide rates to increase? Will Kal finally get his title? You couldn't look away if you tried.


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johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
December 29 2009 17:30 GMT
#2
Nice writing, we are expecting some good starcraft!
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
December 29 2009 17:49 GMT
#3
I'm trusting in the fact that Flash can win both starleagues. I have never been a big fan of Flash, but I definitely think this is the perfect time for him, when the other monsters aren't at the top of their game, while he's finding his peak.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8156 Posts
December 29 2009 19:18 GMT
#4
nothing would be better than Kal winning the MSL and Calm winning the OSL
Free Palestine
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
December 29 2009 19:43 GMT
#5
i hope kwanro wins MSL. that would be awesome ^^
Bisu... ;-(
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
December 29 2009 20:06 GMT
#6
On December 30 2009 04:18 Ideas wrote:
nothing would be better than Kal winning the MSL

BW fighting!
Kreedit
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden373 Posts
December 29 2009 20:20 GMT
#7
On December 30 2009 02:17 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Also, Shine has an opportunity to make one of the greatest runs in OSL history, and to take down Flash at the absolute peak of his career.


Opportunity? yeah sure but the chance of him actually beating flash is nonexistant barring flash 14cc'ing every game like an asshole.

On December 30 2009 02:17 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Whether or not we think Shine has a chance is irrelevant: all that matters is that I know you all will stay up late to watch the series


No i will do the same thing i did the last OSL final aka shut off my brain for one week and pretend starcraft doesnt exist.

+ Show Spoiler +
In all seriousness il proably watch the final to see the fucking rape flash will deliver becuase atm NOONE can touch him in a bo5(least of all a guy with 40% ish ZvT).
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
December 29 2009 22:07 GMT
#8
On December 30 2009 04:43 SkytoM wrote:
i hope kwanro wins MSL. that would be awesome ^^


He'd get a pokeball as trophy.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
December 29 2009 22:17 GMT
#9
We need more blog like this ... thanks.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 00:10:58
December 30 2009 00:07 GMT
#10
On December 30 2009 04:18 Ideas wrote:
nothing would be better than Kal winning the MSL

Kal fighting! I love that guy, even when he is playing B class SC. You know that, sometime, someday, he will rape everyone.
On December 30 2009 07:17 lac29 wrote:
We need more blog like this ... thanks.

true, good job!
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 30 2009 06:17 GMT
#11
What we need is more mech. They should bring Odd-Eye into proleague IMO.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
December 30 2009 06:24 GMT
#12
On December 30 2009 15:17 jalstar wrote:
What we need is more mech. They should bring Odd-Eye into proleague IMO.

Odd Eye is a bitchin map. If there were more Mech friendly maps in the OSL, maybe Calm or Shine would have a better chance, because we've all seen that Flash's mech builds vs zerg is a weak point... Too bad his bio/biomech is so damn good.

Seriously. We need GGplay to come out of retirement.

[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
December 31 2009 05:10 GMT
#13
I wouldn't mind more mech myself!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
December 31 2009 05:51 GMT
#14
The players are there to win, not to amuse us. This is something that many in the the community continually fail to recognize, especially when they cry about "stupid faggot nigger bullshit cheese" in the livestream thread and then get banned for it.

Who cares if Flash bunker rushed Jaedong?
"oh my god, he wouldn't be able to beat jaedong in a bo5 so he had to rush what a cheesy noob"

he won, get over yourselves.
Sullifam
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-31 08:03:43
December 31 2009 08:00 GMT
#15
On December 31 2009 14:51 ghostWriter wrote:
The players are there to win, not to amuse us. This is something that many in the the community continually fail to recognize, especially when they cry about "stupid faggot nigger bullshit cheese" in the livestream thread and then get banned for it.

Who cares if Flash bunker rushed Jaedong?
"oh my god, he wouldn't be able to beat jaedong in a bo5 so he had to rush what a cheesy noob"

he won, get over yourselves.

MMmmm okay then.
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