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I’ve had this idea for long, and I would like to share it with you guys. It might sound abit wierd or cheesy for some people, not to mention unnecassary if you can do it without.
But anyway, for some people it will help alot with motivation and find the time to do stuff that you often are to lazy not to do or dont find the time to do often enough. I used to spend time in games like WoW where you have achievment system, leveling and grinding. Recent times in facebook flash games like mafia wars & farmville. My point is, we force ourselves often to continue to do stuff, for pretty pointless reasons (like collecting for an item or achivement). In the end, they will increase your image in someway for other people. I’ve decieded to take advantage of this.
The idea is basically to make a game out of real life work and things you should do but never get done. This game will help get rid of alot of lazyness and get more things done. Which is perfect with all new years resolutions. It will contribute to your way of life in many ways. What you do is you gain expereince points for different things like cooking a dinner, doing the dishes or working out, or even contributing to teamliquid. Everything that is good that you wanto but never find time or effort enough to do. It can help you work harder and study harder. But the participants need to take it seriously and be honest, not to mention encourage and support eachother.
You gain levels out of these XP points like any other RPG. Along the way every now and then levels (10, 20, 30 etc) you give yourself a huge reward. (eg. travel to a place, or buy a new graphics card to your pc, or give yourself order a movie you allways wanted to see) It doesn’t have to be huge or very small, enough to motivate some more. Or if you would like to throw in a twist, give away a friends email adress to a participant here or so, and let them plan a surprise once you reached a certain level.
I will make a forum thread here on Teamliquid, with participants ID and level ranking etc. This will bind you somewhat to others, the idea, and will make you work hard to achive more IRL instead of spend too much time on empty surfing, idle time doing nothing, or wathcing to much movies or playing to many games when there is actually stuff you should have done before doing this. Also, doing it like this on TL, adds the competative spirit within people and by doing this, they will get alot more done, and it will motivate alot more than just the reason for doing it beeing the real life consequences.
I tried this alone, worked in some way, you see progress and thats very fun! (eg. when you workout and your weights get heavier) Alone you have no one to check you. With others you will force you to do things to uphold your reputation. Things will be alot easier to do! Since fresh new year is coming up, it would be a perfect place to start off. Also reporting in and telling others and get feedback and enoucargment will help. I still got some details to put togather. What do you guys think? Got any feedback or ideas for making this work?
When? 1st January 2010
Who? You, if you think your up for it!
How? Keep track on your XP in a word doc, and what you do every day and report it on TL.
Why? To increase effectivness of time and improve life in many ways. Also to get a firm grip on lazyness and force yourself to do things you have to do, and to get yourself to do things you want to, but never find the time or effort.
XP suggestions
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Drinking atleast 2liters of water each day (30XP, 7day bonus 50XP)
Eating 5 veggies/fruit each day (30XP, 7day bonus 50XP)
Workout (100XP / hour)
Cooking dinner: (50XP)
Doing the dishes (30XP (small) 100XP (huge))
Contributing to Teamliquid (100XP / hour)
Studying (100XP / hour)
Learning a new language (150XP / hour)
added
Learning a new instrument (150XP / hour)
Cleaning appartment each week (200XP)
Level scaling
I have a hard time with level scaling. Anyone got any suggestions?
Poll: How does this sound?
(Vote): Sounds good! Sign me up!
(Vote): Sounds unecessary
(Vote): dont care
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Sounds good except these stats are imba. Contributing to TL shouldn't be more than working out...easy grind imo.
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I'm up for it I need ANY motivation I can get to do something lol
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Not a bad idea. With slight adjustments to the XP handed out for various events, this could possibly get people to get off the comp and do something productive with their lives.
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this sounds like a cool idea. i think doing it ith someone else would be the best way to go
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add exp points for practicing an instrument and maybe for some social endeavours.
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On December 30 2009 01:21 Roffles wrote:
Not a bad idea. With slight adjustments to the XP handed out for various events, this could possibly get people to get off the comp and do something productive with their lives.
Only to come back to the computer and brag about their XP and level and read all about how everyone else's "game" is going. My vote was for unnecessary, seems like we should be able to good for ourselves without some additional bonus. I cook dinner and clean dishes because I need to do them, and because when I'm done I have a meal in me and my house is clean. I don't think I need the addition of doing them so I can "buy a new graphics card"
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United States4796 Posts
I'm going to go ahead and say this is a lame idea...
So in about two years when this is the next big thing I'll look like the loser. 
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Idd, I should lower the TL thing. But I'm thinking of adding alot more of XP suggestions as common, and then everyone can have a couple of personal ones depending on their goals in life.
Shame I dont have my old word sheet on this computer, there I have also like adding different stats for everything so its motivating to watch after awhile that you actually improved. But doing this with someone else is definitly best!
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what if i want to PK someone?
do i get XP for trolling?
does SC training worth on xp?
and what would be the equivalent to killing sheeps for leveling?
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On December 30 2009 01:30 coltrane wrote:
what if i want to PK someone?
do their chores, steal their XP.
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On December 30 2009 01:30 coltrane wrote:
what if i want to PK someone?
do i get XP for trolling?
does SC training worth on xp?
and what would be the equivalent to killing sheeps for leveling?
This is IRL so no Starcraft of course. And I guess you're talking about WoW or something, sheeps doesn't give exp...
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On December 30 2009 01:26 Thegilaboy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 01:21 Roffles wrote:
Not a bad idea. With slight adjustments to the XP handed out for various events, this could possibly get people to get off the comp and do something productive with their lives. Only to come back to the computer and brag about their XP and level and read all about how everyone else's "game" is going. My vote was for unnecessary, seems like we should be able to good for ourselves without some additional bonus. I cook dinner and clean dishes because I need to do them, and because when I'm done I have a meal in me and my house is clean. I don't think I need the addition of doing them so I can "buy a new graphics card"
Not everyone have the same motivation of doing obvious stuff like cooking a dinner. It is simply to get people that dont to try harder and not people that are already masters at it and can do stuff without problem. Neither are everyone that concern about keeping the house clean, we tend to push it day by day and weeks ahead of us. Time is really fast. Until we realize we should have done it earlier. People are different, some people have no problem doing things, other have.
After weeks of doing this, things will start going alot more automatic than before. This is simply to make this happen. Its a tool to use to push towards that goal!
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level scaling should be
lvl 1 - 5
insanely hard
lvl 5 - 100
really ez
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On December 30 2009 01:41 ThePhan2m wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 01:26 Thegilaboy wrote:On December 30 2009 01:21 Roffles wrote:
Not a bad idea. With slight adjustments to the XP handed out for various events, this could possibly get people to get off the comp and do something productive with their lives. Only to come back to the computer and brag about their XP and level and read all about how everyone else's "game" is going. My vote was for unnecessary, seems like we should be able to good for ourselves without some additional bonus. I cook dinner and clean dishes because I need to do them, and because when I'm done I have a meal in me and my house is clean. I don't think I need the addition of doing them so I can "buy a new graphics card" Not everyone have the same motivation of doing obvious stuff like cooking a dinner. It is simply to get people that dont to try harder and not people that are already masters at it and can do stuff without problem. Neither are everyone that concern about keeping the house clean, we tend to push it day by day and weeks ahead of us. Time is really fast. Until we realize we should have done it earlier. People are different, some people have no problem doing things, other have. After weeks of doing this, things will start going alot more automatic than before. This is simply to make this happen. Its a tool to use to push towards that goal!
I suppose my real opposition is the idea that people should be rewarding themselves for doing things they already are being rewarded for! Cleaning your house, working out, making dinner, all of the things listed already bring a benefit to the person, and for some reason they should get more out of it? Its similar to the idea of, 'oh I'm going to the gym today, so I can eat this cupcake', you don't need that second reward, working out is the reward. By all means go ahead a do it, I just think its completely unnecessary and won't really instill any sort of will power assistance at all to those that have a hard time doing this simple daily things
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Start a conversation with a cute girl : 300exp
Get a cute girl's digit : 550 exp
Date a cute girl : 550 exp
Kiss a cute girl : 750 exp
Get laid : 1000 exp
Screwed up the whole relationship : 150 exp
Manage to marry a cute girl : 800 exp
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On December 30 2009 01:13 Kennigit wrote:
Sounds good except these stats are imba. Contributing to TL shouldn't be more than working out...easy grind imo.
Correct stop trying to make is slanted toward weak nerds, let us fit people get more credit for exerting more energy.
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On December 30 2009 01:49 Thegilaboy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 01:41 ThePhan2m wrote:On December 30 2009 01:26 Thegilaboy wrote:On December 30 2009 01:21 Roffles wrote:
Not a bad idea. With slight adjustments to the XP handed out for various events, this could possibly get people to get off the comp and do something productive with their lives. Only to come back to the computer and brag about their XP and level and read all about how everyone else's "game" is going. My vote was for unnecessary, seems like we should be able to good for ourselves without some additional bonus. I cook dinner and clean dishes because I need to do them, and because when I'm done I have a meal in me and my house is clean. I don't think I need the addition of doing them so I can "buy a new graphics card" Not everyone have the same motivation of doing obvious stuff like cooking a dinner. It is simply to get people that dont to try harder and not people that are already masters at it and can do stuff without problem. Neither are everyone that concern about keeping the house clean, we tend to push it day by day and weeks ahead of us. Time is really fast. Until we realize we should have done it earlier. People are different, some people have no problem doing things, other have. After weeks of doing this, things will start going alot more automatic than before. This is simply to make this happen. Its a tool to use to push towards that goal! I suppose my real opposition is the idea that people should be rewarding themselves for doing things they already are being rewarded for! Cleaning your house, working out, making dinner, all of the things listed already bring a benefit to the person, and for some reason they should get more out of it? Its similar to the idea of, 'oh I'm going to the gym today, so I can eat this cupcake', you don't need that second reward, working out is the reward. By all means go ahead a do it, I just think its completely unnecessary and won't really instill any sort of will power assistance at all to those that have a hard time doing this simple daily things
Your goal is to condition yourself to do these things. The better and direct the reward, the better the conditioning. The reward the activity itself brings with it will bring the long term motivation once you get yourself started.
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Haha, I might try this XP system just out of fun. xD
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It sounds a little unnecessary, but my biggest concern would be the extraction of whatever activitiy to just EXP. Whenever I should be studying, I usually like to do anything else; this system seems like it would help me do something, but it might not be the thing I should be doing.
The competitive spirit sounds fun though. It sort of reminds me of Liquibet being similar to Jerry Seinfeld's "don't break the chain" motivation strategy (The only reason I was able to once get to 100 rank or so was to check liquibet Everyday). So I'm thinking, set up a reward system like MW2 for achievements and that should help people doing things they should. Study at least an hour a day for a week, get bonus 1. Study at least an hour a day for a month, get bonus 2. Do that for a school term? Get bonus three, and be happy about your probable 95%.
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If we want to create a clear and yet appropiate for everyone or most everyone suggestions ( it is possible ) : I d suggest starting of with the listing the biggest values of your life. One`s that are top priority , enough to seem almost independent from other top priority ones.
In my opinion values would be :
- Biggest value - is anything that improves your ability to discern the truth from dishonesty. One of the best factors that help to do that - is to be able to see through the prism of wholeness of situation , this way you know the truth , not false assumptions that leave you in unconcious ignorance.
Example - you get A marks all the time and think that girls like it - because it gives the reputation of an intelligent dude - this is often quite a bullshit - because they don`t realize how the whole situation looks like - they miss that A marks often signify being a pathetic geek instead of inteligent dude - in girls view.... and so on , they miss vital components of the whole situation, being able only to see part of it.
- Joy. Fun. Happiness. A lasting joy, not transient one - thats what our goals should contribute to imo. Note that goals that aim for lasting joy - they very rare do hurt others uselessly if they do at all.
- Girls :D . It stems from joy value but its the biggest value for many people they get better jobs, better skills, better results, better reputation, fame, better everything - to get what they want from girls ( or what is related to them ). Many people have false assumptions about what the girls like etc so if we would define clearly what goals/endeavors/deeds contribute truly ( and when ) to this value - we could set a good suggestions for XP gain situations.
Anyways - isn`t there a one value ? And all others are just created because of this one ? Isn`t it just that we missunderstand this value or miss its existance ? Almost all goals are hierarchical - one goal serves the other , that serves the other etc - same with values - one stems from another - so no matter what - there are those values or value that stand behind all of the rest.
XP suggestions from my side would be :
A deed that contributes ( in a worthy way ) to goal that contributes to your top priority life goal/goals - that contribute to your biggest value / values . Knowing truth about it makes tremendous difference . It makes the difference between wasting hours,weeks,years on doing something that isn`t connected to what would u truly want if u just knew yourself and world better.
so
So - studying - in the correct way, time, place , the correct thing with a correct approach .
In example : lets say you sleep on many classes of biology, get many worst marks - and from time to time you learn it - and u learn it to get A,B from 2-3 tests and then again get worst/low marks - a lot XP.
You know the wholeness of the situation, you know yourself , you know others, you know of your how u r related etc - and because of that, to the degree its true ( that u know) u r able to make a good choice.
Lets make it clear : you sleep on classes , get bad marks all the time, have all that lazy attitude ( I don`t care about it man, I ve got better things to do ) and then out of nowhere you get amazing grades when its needed to pass semester - you prove others ( girls included ) - that u r damn talented - that when u want to do that then its a piece of cake for you. you spend a fucking night to learn cuz u were behind with lessons but noone knows it . so most will respect u a whole lot this achievement. While those who get A ranks all the time might be thought of as average , pathetic geeks who can`t find more interesting things to do. Those geeks are just ignorant on the situation - u r not and u benefit.
Thats when u get XP .
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On December 30 2009 01:16 Zoler wrote:
I'm up for it I need ANY motivation I can get to do something lol
Same here, count me in!
Would be hard to prevent cheating though but it's just fun after all.
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But what if want to be lazy, or if I am kind of a psycho. shouldnt i recieve XP for doing nothing in the first case and for killing babies or something like that on the second?
The whole thing about the XP reward systems is that you get rewarded for playing a role. If you are getting a better yourself in the real life, that should worth it, so the whole point of thinking in XP is really pointless.
And... who am I to put any nominal value to my today actions? i dont have a clue about how will them repercuss onto my future. Maybe something I think is good, is actually pretty bad for me.
And finally, i usually reward myself for little things, i find drugs, placebos (such like cigars and candy, fruits and marihuana, cheese and salame, a can of beer) very usefull for that.
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Just to tell a bit more how u can grasp what your true values are , better . imo
If u find something a value - think - is is the absolutely the most important value - or is it just a value that is the result of the bigger value .
Ie :
Lets say girls are your biggest value - are they or is the joy related with them a bigger value ? Is that joy the value itself or it stems from some bigger value too ? Isn`t what makes it a joy that is more important ? Its human instrument. Isn`t why it is human istrument more important ? It is because of its biological structure/genetic predispositions / natural instincts embedded / social , psychological , emotional connotations / belief system / conciousness, your will that stands behind it.. Isn`t more important why and how are these elemets responsible for joy, experienced with girls ? Biological structure - hormons, genes, instincts, needs of body etc. Psychological structure - need to be with others, need for supporting each other, will to enjoy your time with others ( that u enjoy - why do u enjoy it ? - because its fun , you laugh , you do crazy stuff etc ).
So now u know a bit why these elements make u enjoy being with girls - now you don`t think this is 'just' how it is without understanding it. Now u know more truth about it and u know u can extend it - and gain even more intelligence that these truth-knowing serves you. If u make effort to dwell in to the truth of some concept and make it to the very end - there you can discover your biggest value. Thats gives incredible inteligence about yourself and others. About your goals. Motivation is a piece of cake with this knowledge and becomes the servant of your will.
Similar approach to goals ^ ^
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haha, get a bell so whenever you level up you can walk over and go "ding!"
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On December 30 2009 01:16 Zoler wrote:
I'm up for it I need ANY motivation I can get to do something lol
me too.sign me up
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On December 30 2009 03:34 coltrane wrote:
But what if want to be lazy, or if I am kind of a psycho. shouldnt i recieve XP for doing nothing in the first case and for killing babies or something like that on the second?
The whole thing about the XP reward systems is that you get rewarded for playing a role. If you are getting a better yourself in the real life, that should worth it, so the whole point of thinking in XP is really pointless.
And... who am I to put any nominal value to my today actions? i dont have a clue about how will them repercuss onto my future. Maybe something I think is good, is actually pretty bad for me.
And finally, i usually reward myself for little things, i find drugs, placebos (such like cigars and candy, fruits and marihuana, cheese and salame, a can of beer) very usefull for that.
You just explored the concept of part of this situation - that is doing this real life 'game' XP thing. You saw a bit more truth to it and were able to see through some false assumptions.
Yet you stopped very soon and didn`t even notice that u made assumptions at the beggining of your logic and that they were wrong. So you remain vastly ignorant on the topic , not even realizing it.
Thats how we lie to ourselves and thats why we do all those pointless things, create needless suffering , feel emptiness etc.
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Beat A+ Korean ( 90000 xp points)
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On December 30 2009 04:44 omfghi2u2 wrote:
Beat A+ Korean ( 90000 xp points)
Only two people on TL can do that though....Imba
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lol, i don't think this is going to help you do real life things if contributing to TL has the same points/hour as studying or working out
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The idea sounds nice, but I think it will just lead to many people lying.
Actually Ive seen something similar before. Someone gave me a link to a website made by some weird hardcore Christians who would count of the days they when they would not masturbate (green) and the bad days of self mutilation (red). Sex was out of the option for them obviously, and they would make threads of how they 'nearly masturbated'.
There was a profile of some guy with 500 green days... (probably bullshit, but there were like 4 red days).
Although Im not sure, if someone hasnt made something similar here on teamliquid lol!
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On December 30 2009 02:02 M1.BoA wrote:
Start a conversation with a cute girl : 300exp
Get a cute girl's digit : 550 exp
Date a cute girl : 550 exp
Kiss a cute girl : 750 exp
Get laid : 1000 exp
Screwed up the whole relationship : 150 exp
Manage to marry a cute girl : 800 exp
How do you offer less xp for marrying a cute girl than getting laid? Marriage = automatically 100 lays during the honeymoon. Then nothing after...
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Ever check out Chore Wars before? Same idea, and you can also level up things like strength, dexterity and intelligence based on what kind of chores you do around the house.
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I called the game XPIRL (Experience in real life)
The thread has been made on the Sports & Games section. Please reply to thread and fill in your personal choises for XP gains. And get ready for Monday 4th of january.
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