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ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 16:52:58
December 29 2009 16:05 GMT
#1
I’ve had this idea for long, and I would like to share it with you guys. It might sound abit wierd or cheesy for some people, not to mention unnecassary if you can do it without.

But anyway, for some people it will help alot with motivation and find the time to do stuff that you often are to lazy not to do or dont find the time to do often enough. I used to spend time in games like WoW where you have achievment system, leveling and grinding. Recent times in facebook flash games like mafia wars & farmville. My point is, we force ourselves often to continue to do stuff, for pretty pointless reasons (like collecting for an item or achivement). In the end, they will increase your image in someway for other people. I’ve decieded to take advantage of this.

The idea is basically to make a game out of real life work and things you should do but never get done. This game will help get rid of alot of lazyness and get more things done. Which is perfect with all new years resolutions. It will contribute to your way of life in many ways. What you do is you gain expereince points for different things like cooking a dinner, doing the dishes or working out, or even contributing to teamliquid. Everything that is good that you wanto but never find time or effort enough to do. It can help you work harder and study harder. But the participants need to take it seriously and be honest, not to mention encourage and support eachother.

You gain levels out of these XP points like any other RPG. Along the way every now and then levels (10, 20, 30 etc) you give yourself a huge reward. (eg. travel to a place, or buy a new graphics card to your pc, or give yourself order a movie you allways wanted to see) It doesn’t have to be huge or very small, enough to motivate some more. Or if you would like to throw in a twist, give away a friends email adress to a participant here or so, and let them plan a surprise once you reached a certain level.

I will make a forum thread here on Teamliquid, with participants ID and level ranking etc. This will bind you somewhat to others, the idea, and will make you work hard to achive more IRL instead of spend too much time on empty surfing, idle time doing nothing, or wathcing to much movies or playing to many games when there is actually stuff you should have done before doing this. Also, doing it like this on TL, adds the competative spirit within people and by doing this, they will get alot more done, and it will motivate alot more than just the reason for doing it beeing the real life consequences.

I tried this alone, worked in some way, you see progress and thats very fun! (eg. when you workout and your weights get heavier) Alone you have no one to check you. With others you will force you to do things to uphold your reputation. Things will be alot easier to do! Since fresh new year is coming up, it would be a perfect place to start off. Also reporting in and telling others and get feedback and enoucargment will help. I still got some details to put togather. What do you guys think? Got any feedback or ideas for making this work?

When? 1st January 2010
Who? You, if you think your up for it!
How? Keep track on your XP in a word doc, and what you do every day and report it on TL.
Why? To increase effectivness of time and improve life in many ways. Also to get a firm grip on lazyness and force yourself to do things you have to do, and to get yourself to do things you want to, but never find the time or effort.

XP suggestions
+ Show Spoiler +

Drinking atleast 2liters of water each day (30XP, 7day bonus 50XP)
Eating 5 veggies/fruit each day (30XP, 7day bonus 50XP)
Workout (100XP / hour)
Cooking dinner: (50XP)
Doing the dishes (30XP (small) 100XP (huge))
Contributing to Teamliquid (100XP / hour)
Studying (100XP / hour)
Learning a new language (150XP / hour)

added
Learning a new instrument (150XP / hour)
Cleaning appartment each week (200XP)


Level scaling
I have a hard time with level scaling. Anyone got any suggestions?

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Poll: How does this sound?
(Vote): Sounds good! Sign me up!
(Vote): Sounds unecessary
(Vote): dont care

Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
December 29 2009 16:13 GMT
#2
Sounds good except these stats are imba. Contributing to TL shouldn't be more than working out...easy grind imo.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
December 29 2009 16:16 GMT
#3
I'm up for it I need ANY motivation I can get to do something lol
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 29 2009 16:21 GMT
#4
Not a bad idea. With slight adjustments to the XP handed out for various events, this could possibly get people to get off the comp and do something productive with their lives.
God Bless
TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
December 29 2009 16:24 GMT
#5
this sounds like a cool idea. i think doing it ith someone else would be the best way to go
Dwell
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
December 29 2009 16:25 GMT
#6
add exp points for practicing an instrument and maybe for some social endeavours.
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
December 29 2009 16:26 GMT
#7
On December 30 2009 01:21 Roffles wrote:
Not a bad idea. With slight adjustments to the XP handed out for various events, this could possibly get people to get off the comp and do something productive with their lives.


Only to come back to the computer and brag about their XP and level and read all about how everyone else's "game" is going. My vote was for unnecessary, seems like we should be able to good for ourselves without some additional bonus. I cook dinner and clean dishes because I need to do them, and because when I'm done I have a meal in me and my house is clean. I don't think I need the addition of doing them so I can "buy a new graphics card"
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
December 29 2009 16:28 GMT
#8
I'm going to go ahead and say this is a lame idea...

So in about two years when this is the next big thing I'll look like the loser.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
December 29 2009 16:30 GMT
#9
Idd, I should lower the TL thing. But I'm thinking of adding alot more of XP suggestions as common, and then everyone can have a couple of personal ones depending on their goals in life.

Shame I dont have my old word sheet on this computer, there I have also like adding different stats for everything so its motivating to watch after awhile that you actually improved. But doing this with someone else is definitly best!
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 16:36:30
December 29 2009 16:30 GMT
#10
what if i want to PK someone?

do i get XP for trolling?

does SC training worth on xp?

and what would be the equivalent to killing sheeps for leveling?
Jävla skit
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 16:38:56
December 29 2009 16:38 GMT
#11
On December 30 2009 01:30 coltrane wrote:
what if i want to PK someone?



do their chores, steal their XP.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
December 29 2009 16:40 GMT
#12
On December 30 2009 01:30 coltrane wrote:
what if i want to PK someone?

do i get XP for trolling?

does SC training worth on xp?

and what would be the equivalent to killing sheeps for leveling?


This is IRL so no Starcraft of course. And I guess you're talking about WoW or something, sheeps doesn't give exp...
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
December 29 2009 16:41 GMT
#13
On December 30 2009 01:26 Thegilaboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 01:21 Roffles wrote:
Not a bad idea. With slight adjustments to the XP handed out for various events, this could possibly get people to get off the comp and do something productive with their lives.


Only to come back to the computer and brag about their XP and level and read all about how everyone else's "game" is going. My vote was for unnecessary, seems like we should be able to good for ourselves without some additional bonus. I cook dinner and clean dishes because I need to do them, and because when I'm done I have a meal in me and my house is clean. I don't think I need the addition of doing them so I can "buy a new graphics card"

Not everyone have the same motivation of doing obvious stuff like cooking a dinner. It is simply to get people that dont to try harder and not people that are already masters at it and can do stuff without problem. Neither are everyone that concern about keeping the house clean, we tend to push it day by day and weeks ahead of us. Time is really fast. Until we realize we should have done it earlier. People are different, some people have no problem doing things, other have.

After weeks of doing this, things will start going alot more automatic than before. This is simply to make this happen. Its a tool to use to push towards that goal!
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
December 29 2009 16:43 GMT
#14
level scaling should be

lvl 1 - 5
insanely hard

lvl 5 - 100
really ez
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
December 29 2009 16:49 GMT
#15
On December 30 2009 01:41 ThePhan2m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 01:26 Thegilaboy wrote:
On December 30 2009 01:21 Roffles wrote:
Not a bad idea. With slight adjustments to the XP handed out for various events, this could possibly get people to get off the comp and do something productive with their lives.


Only to come back to the computer and brag about their XP and level and read all about how everyone else's "game" is going. My vote was for unnecessary, seems like we should be able to good for ourselves without some additional bonus. I cook dinner and clean dishes because I need to do them, and because when I'm done I have a meal in me and my house is clean. I don't think I need the addition of doing them so I can "buy a new graphics card"

Not everyone have the same motivation of doing obvious stuff like cooking a dinner. It is simply to get people that dont to try harder and not people that are already masters at it and can do stuff without problem. Neither are everyone that concern about keeping the house clean, we tend to push it day by day and weeks ahead of us. Time is really fast. Until we realize we should have done it earlier. People are different, some people have no problem doing things, other have.

After weeks of doing this, things will start going alot more automatic than before. This is simply to make this happen. Its a tool to use to push towards that goal!


I suppose my real opposition is the idea that people should be rewarding themselves for doing things they already are being rewarded for! Cleaning your house, working out, making dinner, all of the things listed already bring a benefit to the person, and for some reason they should get more out of it? Its similar to the idea of, 'oh I'm going to the gym today, so I can eat this cupcake', you don't need that second reward, working out is the reward. By all means go ahead a do it, I just think its completely unnecessary and won't really instill any sort of will power assistance at all to those that have a hard time doing this simple daily things
M1.BoA
Profile Joined October 2009
Malaysia21 Posts
December 29 2009 17:02 GMT
#16
Start a conversation with a cute girl : 300exp
Get a cute girl's digit : 550 exp
Date a cute girl : 550 exp
Kiss a cute girl : 750 exp
Get laid : 1000 exp
Screwed up the whole relationship : 150 exp
Manage to marry a cute girl : 800 exp
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 29 2009 17:30 GMT
#17
On December 30 2009 01:13 Kennigit wrote:
Sounds good except these stats are imba. Contributing to TL shouldn't be more than working out...easy grind imo.



Correct stop trying to make is slanted toward weak nerds, let us fit people get more credit for exerting more energy.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
December 29 2009 17:40 GMT
#18
On December 30 2009 01:49 Thegilaboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 01:41 ThePhan2m wrote:
On December 30 2009 01:26 Thegilaboy wrote:
On December 30 2009 01:21 Roffles wrote:
Not a bad idea. With slight adjustments to the XP handed out for various events, this could possibly get people to get off the comp and do something productive with their lives.


Only to come back to the computer and brag about their XP and level and read all about how everyone else's "game" is going. My vote was for unnecessary, seems like we should be able to good for ourselves without some additional bonus. I cook dinner and clean dishes because I need to do them, and because when I'm done I have a meal in me and my house is clean. I don't think I need the addition of doing them so I can "buy a new graphics card"

Not everyone have the same motivation of doing obvious stuff like cooking a dinner. It is simply to get people that dont to try harder and not people that are already masters at it and can do stuff without problem. Neither are everyone that concern about keeping the house clean, we tend to push it day by day and weeks ahead of us. Time is really fast. Until we realize we should have done it earlier. People are different, some people have no problem doing things, other have.

After weeks of doing this, things will start going alot more automatic than before. This is simply to make this happen. Its a tool to use to push towards that goal!


I suppose my real opposition is the idea that people should be rewarding themselves for doing things they already are being rewarded for! Cleaning your house, working out, making dinner, all of the things listed already bring a benefit to the person, and for some reason they should get more out of it? Its similar to the idea of, 'oh I'm going to the gym today, so I can eat this cupcake', you don't need that second reward, working out is the reward. By all means go ahead a do it, I just think its completely unnecessary and won't really instill any sort of will power assistance at all to those that have a hard time doing this simple daily things

Your goal is to condition yourself to do these things. The better and direct the reward, the better the conditioning. The reward the activity itself brings with it will bring the long term motivation once you get yourself started.
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
December 29 2009 17:42 GMT
#19
Haha, I might try this XP system just out of fun. xD
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
Yammiez
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada186 Posts
December 29 2009 18:09 GMT
#20
It sounds a little unnecessary, but my biggest concern would be the extraction of whatever activitiy to just EXP. Whenever I should be studying, I usually like to do anything else; this system seems like it would help me do something, but it might not be the thing I should be doing.

The competitive spirit sounds fun though. It sort of reminds me of Liquibet being similar to Jerry Seinfeld's "don't break the chain" motivation strategy (The only reason I was able to once get to 100 rank or so was to check liquibet Everyday). So I'm thinking, set up a reward system like MW2 for achievements and that should help people doing things they should. Study at least an hour a day for a week, get bonus 1. Study at least an hour a day for a month, get bonus 2. Do that for a school term? Get bonus three, and be happy about your probable 95%.
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