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If we want to create a clear and yet appropiate for everyone or most everyone suggestions ( it is possible ) : I d suggest starting of with the listing the biggest values of your life. One`s that are top priority , enough to seem almost independent from other top priority ones.
In my opinion values would be :
- Biggest value - is anything that improves your ability to discern the truth from dishonesty. One of the best factors that help to do that - is to be able to see through the prism of wholeness of situation , this way you know the truth , not false assumptions that leave you in unconcious ignorance.
Example - you get A marks all the time and think that girls like it - because it gives the reputation of an intelligent dude - this is often quite a bullshit - because they don`t realize how the whole situation looks like - they miss that A marks often signify being a pathetic geek instead of inteligent dude - in girls view.... and so on , they miss vital components of the whole situation, being able only to see part of it.
- Joy. Fun. Happiness. A lasting joy, not transient one - thats what our goals should contribute to imo. Note that goals that aim for lasting joy - they very rare do hurt others uselessly if they do at all.
- Girls :D . It stems from joy value but its the biggest value for many people they get better jobs, better skills, better results, better reputation, fame, better everything - to get what they want from girls ( or what is related to them ). Many people have false assumptions about what the girls like etc so if we would define clearly what goals/endeavors/deeds contribute truly ( and when ) to this value - we could set a good suggestions for XP gain situations.
Anyways - isn`t there a one value ? And all others are just created because of this one ? Isn`t it just that we missunderstand this value or miss its existance ? Almost all goals are hierarchical - one goal serves the other , that serves the other etc - same with values - one stems from another - so no matter what - there are those values or value that stand behind all of the rest.
XP suggestions from my side would be :
A deed that contributes ( in a worthy way ) to goal that contributes to your top priority life goal/goals - that contribute to your biggest value / values . Knowing truth about it makes tremendous difference . It makes the difference between wasting hours,weeks,years on doing something that isn`t connected to what would u truly want if u just knew yourself and world better.
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So - studying - in the correct way, time, place , the correct thing with a correct approach .
In example : lets say you sleep on many classes of biology, get many worst marks - and from time to time you learn it - and u learn it to get A,B from 2-3 tests and then again get worst/low marks - a lot XP.
You know the wholeness of the situation, you know yourself , you know others, you know of your how u r related etc - and because of that, to the degree its true ( that u know) u r able to make a good choice.
Lets make it clear : you sleep on classes , get bad marks all the time, have all that lazy attitude ( I don`t care about it man, I ve got better things to do ) and then out of nowhere you get amazing grades when its needed to pass semester - you prove others ( girls included ) - that u r damn talented - that when u want to do that then its a piece of cake for you. you spend a fucking night to learn cuz u were behind with lessons but noone knows it . so most will respect u a whole lot this achievement. While those who get A ranks all the time might be thought of as average , pathetic geeks who can`t find more interesting things to do. Those geeks are just ignorant on the situation - u r not and u benefit.
Thats when u get XP .
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On December 30 2009 01:16 Zoler wrote:
I'm up for it I need ANY motivation I can get to do something lol
Same here, count me in! 
Would be hard to prevent cheating though but it's just fun after all.
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But what if want to be lazy, or if I am kind of a psycho. shouldnt i recieve XP for doing nothing in the first case and for killing babies or something like that on the second?
The whole thing about the XP reward systems is that you get rewarded for playing a role. If you are getting a better yourself in the real life, that should worth it, so the whole point of thinking in XP is really pointless.
And... who am I to put any nominal value to my today actions? i dont have a clue about how will them repercuss onto my future. Maybe something I think is good, is actually pretty bad for me.
And finally, i usually reward myself for little things, i find drugs, placebos (such like cigars and candy, fruits and marihuana, cheese and salame, a can of beer) very usefull for that.
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Just to tell a bit more how u can grasp what your true values are , better . imo
If u find something a value - think - is is the absolutely the most important value - or is it just a value that is the result of the bigger value .
Ie :
Lets say girls are your biggest value - are they or is the joy related with them a bigger value ? Is that joy the value itself or it stems from some bigger value too ? Isn`t what makes it a joy that is more important ? Its human instrument. Isn`t why it is human istrument more important ? It is because of its biological structure/genetic predispositions / natural instincts embedded / social , psychological , emotional connotations / belief system / conciousness, your will that stands behind it.. Isn`t more important why and how are these elemets responsible for joy, experienced with girls ? Biological structure - hormons, genes, instincts, needs of body etc. Psychological structure - need to be with others, need for supporting each other, will to enjoy your time with others ( that u enjoy - why do u enjoy it ? - because its fun , you laugh , you do crazy stuff etc ).
So now u know a bit why these elements make u enjoy being with girls - now you don`t think this is 'just' how it is without understanding it. Now u know more truth about it and u know u can extend it - and gain even more intelligence that these truth-knowing serves you. If u make effort to dwell in to the truth of some concept and make it to the very end - there you can discover your biggest value. Thats gives incredible inteligence about yourself and others. About your goals. Motivation is a piece of cake with this knowledge and becomes the servant of your will.
Similar approach to goals ^ ^
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haha, get a bell so whenever you level up you can walk over and go "ding!"
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On December 30 2009 01:16 Zoler wrote:
I'm up for it I need ANY motivation I can get to do something lol
me too.sign me up
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On December 30 2009 03:34 coltrane wrote:
But what if want to be lazy, or if I am kind of a psycho. shouldnt i recieve XP for doing nothing in the first case and for killing babies or something like that on the second?
The whole thing about the XP reward systems is that you get rewarded for playing a role. If you are getting a better yourself in the real life, that should worth it, so the whole point of thinking in XP is really pointless.
And... who am I to put any nominal value to my today actions? i dont have a clue about how will them repercuss onto my future. Maybe something I think is good, is actually pretty bad for me.
And finally, i usually reward myself for little things, i find drugs, placebos (such like cigars and candy, fruits and marihuana, cheese and salame, a can of beer) very usefull for that.
You just explored the concept of part of this situation - that is doing this real life 'game' XP thing. You saw a bit more truth to it and were able to see through some false assumptions.
Yet you stopped very soon and didn`t even notice that u made assumptions at the beggining of your logic and that they were wrong. So you remain vastly ignorant on the topic , not even realizing it.
Thats how we lie to ourselves and thats why we do all those pointless things, create needless suffering , feel emptiness etc.
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Beat A+ Korean ( 90000 xp points)
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On December 30 2009 04:44 omfghi2u2 wrote:
Beat A+ Korean ( 90000 xp points)
Only two people on TL can do that though....Imba
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lol, i don't think this is going to help you do real life things if contributing to TL has the same points/hour as studying or working out
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The idea sounds nice, but I think it will just lead to many people lying.
Actually Ive seen something similar before. Someone gave me a link to a website made by some weird hardcore Christians who would count of the days they when they would not masturbate (green) and the bad days of self mutilation (red). Sex was out of the option for them obviously, and they would make threads of how they 'nearly masturbated'.
There was a profile of some guy with 500 green days... (probably bullshit, but there were like 4 red days).
Although Im not sure, if someone hasnt made something similar here on teamliquid lol!
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On December 30 2009 02:02 M1.BoA wrote:
Start a conversation with a cute girl : 300exp
Get a cute girl's digit : 550 exp
Date a cute girl : 550 exp
Kiss a cute girl : 750 exp
Get laid : 1000 exp
Screwed up the whole relationship : 150 exp
Manage to marry a cute girl : 800 exp
How do you offer less xp for marrying a cute girl than getting laid? Marriage = automatically 100 lays during the honeymoon. Then nothing after...
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Ever check out Chore Wars before? Same idea, and you can also level up things like strength, dexterity and intelligence based on what kind of chores you do around the house.
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I called the game XPIRL (Experience in real life)
The thread has been made on the Sports & Games section. Please reply to thread and fill in your personal choises for XP gains. And get ready for Monday 4th of january.
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