Chess and Natural Talent - Page 4
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Urth
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gyth
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Who possibly wouldn't have focused into the amazing man he is without ALS. | ||
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SuperArc
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On December 23 2009 13:43 Athos wrote: Thanks for all the responses. I should have clarified a few things. Thing is, he does play chess but he has no formal training, he's never been coached and he's completely self taught. He used to play on yahoo chess for a while, and he's admitted to playing roughly a thousand games on zone.com so I guess he's had his fair share of practice. However, there's no doubt in my mind he is talented. It just always came of as weird to me that he never bothered to learn formal openings or chess terminology, I guess everything he learned just came from playing the game. As for him beating the chessmaster, I don't think he cheated because he's played the same we he's played in every game. It was definitely not set to full power on my old crappy computer and I was just using the instant recommended move. I think I could show you guys some games I've played against him, and maybe from that you can figure out how strong he is. yeah show us games between you two | ||
eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Of course, talent doesn't mean you'll be elite in the end because hard work is also needed. But those with talent and hard work there's no way for people with hard work to match them. My brother recently won $7500 at a chess tourney, and has some college scholarships to UMBC and texas for chess... but he doesn't really care that much about playing chess professionally. If you don't have the hard work to go along with your talent then it's a moot point. | ||
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Athos
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Anyways, I can post the move notations here I guess. Game 1: ;White: Athos ;Black: dthhck ;Date: Sun Jan 03 21:54:22 PST 2010 + Show Spoiler + 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. g1-f3 b8-c6 3. d2-d4 c5xd4 4. f3xd4 g8-f6 5. b1-c3 e7-e6 6. d4xc6 b7xc6 7. e4-e5 f6-d5 8. c3xd5 e6xd5 9. c2-c4 d5xc4 10. f1xc4 d8-a5+ 11. c1-d2 a5xe5+ 12. d1-e2 e5xe2+ 13. e1xe2 d7-d5 14. c4-d3 c8-g4+ 15. f2-f3 g4-e6 16. a1-c1 c6-c5 17. d3-b5+ e6-d7 18. b5xd7+ e8xd7 19. e2-f2 f8-d6 20. h1-e1 a8-b8 21. f2-g1 b8xb2 22. d2-c3 b2xa2 23. c3xg7 h8-g8 24. g7-h6 g8xg2+ 25. g1-h1 g2xh2+ 26. h1-g1 h2xh6 27. e1-e7+ d6xe7 28. c1xc5 e7xc5+ 29. g1-f1 h6-h1++ Game 2: ;White: Athos ;Black: dthhck ;Date: Sun Jan 03 22:06:39 PST 2010 + Show Spoiler + 1. e2-e4 f7-f5 2. b1-c3 e7-e6 3. d2-d4 d7-d5 4. e4xd5 e6xd5 5. g1-f3 f8-b4 6. d1-e2+ g8-e7 7. c1-g5 o-o 8. o-o-o c7-c6 9. a2-a3 b4-d6 10. g5xe7 d6xe7 11. d1-e1 f8-e8 12. e2-d2 b7-b5 13. f1-d3 a7-a5 14. c1-b1 b5-b4 15. c3xd5 c6xd5 16. d3-b5 c8-d7 17. e1xe7 e8xe7 18. b5xd7 b8xd7 19. f3-g5 b4xa3 20. d2-f4 d8-b6 21. b2-b3 a5-a4 22. g5xh7 a4xb3 23. f4xf5 b3xc2+ 24. b1xc2 a8-c8+ 25. c2-d2 b6-b2+ 26. d2-d1 c8-c1++ Game 3: ;White: Athos ;Black: dthhck ;Date: Sun Jan 03 22:33:00 PST 2010 + Show Spoiler + 1. e2-e4 g8-f6 2. e4-e5 f6-e4 3. d2-d3 e4-c5 4. b2-b4 c5-a4 5. c2-c4 a4-b2 6. c1xb2 e7-e6 7. a2-a3 f8-e7 8. g1-f3 o-o 9. d3-d4 d7-d5 10. c4-c5 a7-a5 11. b4-b5 c7-c6 12. b5-b6 b8-d7 13. f1-d3 f7-f6 14. o-o f6xe5 15. f3xe5 d7xe5 16. d4xe5 e7xc5 17. d1-c2 c5xb6 18. d3xh7+ g8-h8 19. h7-d3 d8-h4 20. g2-g3 h4-g5 21. b2-c1 g5xe5 22. c1-b2 e5-g5 23. b2-c1 g5-f6 24. c1-b2 e6-e5 25. b1-d2 c8-h3 26. c2-b3 b6xf2+ 27. g1-h1 h3xf1 28. a1xf1 f6-e6 29. d2-e4 f2-a7 30. f1xf8+ a8xf8 31. e4-g5 e6-g4 32. b3xb7 g4-d1+ 33. h1-g2 f8-f2+ 34. g2-h3 d1-h5++ Game 4: (probably my best effort) ;White: Athos ;Black: dthhck ;Date: Sun Jan 03 23:21:13 PST 2010 + Show Spoiler + 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. g1-f3 b8-c6 3. c2-c3 g8-f6 4. d2-d4 f6xe4 5. d4-d5 c6-e7 6. f3xe5 e7-g6 7. e5xg6 h7xg6 8. f1-d3 e4-c5 9. d3-c2 f8-d6 10. d1-d4 d8-f6 11. c1-e3 f6xd4 12. e3xd4 e8-f8 13. b1-d2 h8-h5 14. c3-c4 b7-b5 15. b2-b3 c8-a6 16. o-o-o a8-e8 17. g2-g3 b5xc4 18. b3xc4 c7-c6 19. d2-b3 c5xb3+ 20. a2xb3 c6xd5 21. d4xa7 d6-a3+ 22. c1-b1 d5xc4 23. b3xc4 a6xc4 24. b1-a1 h5-b5 25. d1-b1 b5-a5 26. b1-b8 a3-d6+ 27. a1-b2 d6xb8 | ||
nebffa
Australia776 Posts
our minds are extremely logical, and because of this it allows to think through problems, or new concepts ourselves, rather than needing a teacher to show us (seriously, youve been through high school, youll know how easily a teacher's skill can make or break the average student's mark - that just shows the dependence of the student on the teacher). the fact that i can understand some sciency things so well seems mystical to some of my friends. but im not some kind of prodigy. i have just cultured a very good mindset in myself. ANYONE can do this, but most people don't believe it because of years of being cultured to their own mindset that people are smarter than them, theres nothing they can do about it, and at the end of the day it makes them feel better. do you think your friend is smart just by *completely* natural aptitude? let me tell you that this is a load of crap. i totally get how this misconception arises though. these 'smart' people dont tend to admit just how much work they do, instead saying something like o yeah i dont really do that much work. something along those lines. maybe they do not do as much writing, or something like that. but i will bet my bottom dollar, time and time again, that they are doing more thinking than you. they will think why the differentiation from first principles work as theyre catching the tram home, or why the R U R' U R U U R' algorithm works the way it does on a rubiks cube. i dont think ill spend more time trying to quantify the gist of what im saying, because i dont think its useful past this point. hopefully you get what im saying. people CAN become smart if they want. its all about what mentality you foster: the can-do attitude, or the can't-do. | ||
Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
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