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jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
December 10 2009 04:44 GMT
#1
My girlfriend and I just broke up. Nothing "serious". 4 Months. But we've been friends for over 2 years. And I feel that that is lost too with the break up.

I can't talk to anyone else because no one else "really" knows and they just won't understand because I've tried to talk to them before. I feel kinda sad for expressing this on TL.net but there are different types of friends for different types of problems but none of my friends can really listen to this one without judging me.

I feel that with TL.net. It's all online and my real identity is hidden and I feel that you can all read this without any real judgement. I really feel grateful for this blog. I don't need responses, just someone willing to understand.

Story

I met a girl over 2 years ago at work. We hit it off really well, become friends and had like a 2 week summer fling. Once school started though, we ended it and just casually talked over MSN Messenger. I found a new girlfriend soon after and she found a new boyfriend. Only difference is I left my girlfriend within 6 months while she was still going strong up until 5 months ago this year.

Basically, she broke up with her boyfriend after 2 years because she felt she loved him as a friend but wasn't in love with him anymore. We started talking and meeting up and one thing led to another and she said she missed me after all this time and I kinda really missed her too. Not just because she told me but I always wondered "what if" we never stopped seeing each other in that way.

We started going out September this year and everything was going well. But I have a problem of being a passive-aggressive bitch. We would fight sometimes over dumb stuff which could easily be taken care of but I would remain silent sometimes and after a while it really started to stress her out. She didn't tell me right away though. She started talking to her ex-boyfriend who was "there" for her.

After talking to him, she told me and honestly, I changed 100%. She even admits that she was grateful for it now. I never did it again but the point is, I did it before and that's what caused her to start talking to her ex again. (That's what she explained as the cause).

She started to talk to him whenever things got sad or when she was mad or stressed about school or me or whatever. I got a little insecure about this and told her I didn't like it. But she kept explaining that he's just a friend. And that she did love him and needed him as a friend and that she wasn't IN love with him. She was telling me how they were with each other for 2 years so of course he understood how to comfort her when we got into fights because it was "difficult" to talk to me and her other friends wouldn't understand.

To give her credit though... the reason why she said it was difficult to talk to me because I would get so angry sometimes in fights and leave the relationship and call her back only a couple hours later telling her I was sorry. She said it was inappropriate, time-consuming, etc. And that's why she leaned on her ex-boyfriend to talk to because he was just always there for her.

Basically, the logic is, I fucked up more than once and now she started to rely on her ex. In my defence though. I didn't understand why it had to be him, even though she explained why. I just didn't feel comfortable with it and didn't want to be with her when she was talking to him often... about her "feelings" and her problems... and etc.

I tried to be understanding though when she said she just needed a friend and that she never hated him. She just wasn't "IN" love with him. Skipping to the last few weeks though. They hung out at her place and he kissed her when he left. She said it was like a 2-3 second kiss and then she pushed him away and said no. She told me but I was understanding because it wasn't her, it was him. Still she said she was sorry and talked to him and made it clear that there would be no more of that.

I asked her how it happened though and she said she usually gives a kiss to the cheek goodbye to close friends, even other guy friends, not just him. But she did it to him and he grabbed her and kissed her. Anyway, so that happened and 2 weeks ago, she kissed him on the cheek twice and finally he kissed her and she said that she reacted by laughing and saying, "What are you doing??"

We fought over that.. pretty badly.. We talked about how I fucked up before, not giving her security and leaving when things got bad. We also talked about her relationship with him. She said her relationship was strong with him because of the lack of security I gave her. But I told her my problem for not wanting to stay was because of her relationship with him. It was just all a big circle.

We somehow worked it out in the end and just wanted to start a new. Then one day I was about to come over to her place and gave her a call. She said that she was studying with her ex. That made me feel weird and I straight up told her that it made me feel weird coming over if he was there or was just there so I said I was just gonna go home.

When I got home, we talked later that night and she told me how pissed off she was, etc, etc long story short, she said she kissed him when he left. She said she kissed him because he just made her feel safe which I failed to do but she also said she didn't feel anything.

We talked about this for a long time. We talked about how I fucked up again, in the past and now. Talked about why I didn't make her feel safe. And I was/am willing to change all of that. She made a commitment and promise to us that she would no longer do that stuff. I know I should have left her by now but I know that I fucked up so badly too. And that it wasn't about her, or me, it was about us and so we both just decided to start fresh.

Well just a few hours ago we got into another fight. Which was the last one as it finally separated us. She thought I was coming over but I honestly accidentally fell asleep and called her when I woke up. She seemed pissed or sad, a mix of both and I was trying to talk to her and explain to her but she was just like, "Go do your essay" since I have one due tomorrow. But she just didn't seem to want to talk. I called her back and told her I was worried that she was feeling like this because this is how she usually is before she starts to "lean" on him. I forgot to mention that she refused to stop seeing him because he was too much of a close friend.

So she felt like I just didn't trust her anymore but she said she understood why but she was getting tired of trying to earn my trust because I wasn't giving her any opportunity to do so. She said it was just too straining and it wasn't worth it. That she hadn't done anything wrong since we had the last negotiation but I still had insecurities. But she knew why... I don't know. We just finally both agreed to end it even though we both still admitted that we loved each other.

Thanks for reading all of this. I was really upset when I started but I feel a lot more calm now. You don't need to respond or do anything about this post. I just felt like... it was therapeutic. Thanks.

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NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
December 10 2009 04:46 GMT
#2
You can talk to me. I'm here for you...
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9767 Posts
December 10 2009 04:51 GMT
#3
these things are just fucked up, it's not your fault, nor hers, it was just bound to happen. let it go.
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Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
December 10 2009 04:52 GMT
#4
That sucks man.
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
December 10 2009 04:52 GMT
#5
I am just basing this on what you wrote but she is definitely in the wrong here and i daresay seems like a bitch
wtf does "making her feel safe" even mean?
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RaNgeD
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States733 Posts
December 10 2009 04:54 GMT
#6
I'm sorry man. We all need someone to talk to when shit gets rough so don't feel bad for posting this here. To be honest its good that your relationship ended at 4 months because its obvious that she is still in love with her ex. I'm sorry but kissing 'good friends' or having her ex over to 'study' with wouldn't fly with me, and I don't think it should with anyone else. My bet is she'll be with her ex again soon. (But I could be wrong.)

As far as you making mistakes, don't worry it happens. Don't feel guilty just learn from your mistakes and move on, and remember that communication is very important in a relationship. You should always be upfront about how you are feeling because if you hold shit in it just causes problems. No worries man, there are plenty of fish in the sea. My first relationship ended 8 months ago and I was with her for 3 1/2 years. Just be patient and a new girl will come around. In the meantime just enjoy life and look forward to the time when you will have another girl, because there is no doubt that you will, and eventually this one will fade from your memory. Hang in there man.
Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:7
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
December 10 2009 04:55 GMT
#7
Oh man thats tough. Yea sometimes by just articulating what happened/how you feel can make yourself feel better. Good luck with everything.. hope you bounce back soon!
Fixed
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-10 05:01:26
December 10 2009 05:01 GMT
#8
Like that one saying goes...in the poker game of life, girls are the fucking rake man.

1 down. 3 billion to go.
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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
December 10 2009 05:12 GMT
#9
This story is scary familiar. Sorry 'bout it all & good luck with the future.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 10 2009 05:14 GMT
#10
Damn, that sucks. I sort of have a couple of problems like that too, so I can sympathize. My girlfriend likes to hang out with a LOT of guys. Like, I know she does it because she doesn't really hang out with girls as much (she says she can't relate to them at times), and I sort of feel the weird/jealousy type feelings you get.

I also understand that whole insecurity things that the girls have. Personally, it's really sweet for you to be caring that much about her and yet not seeing what you're doing wrong. Ultimately, girls have massive expectations for their guys that it's impossible to fit their dream persona.

It's not your fault, and it's not hers either. I think it just ultimately has to do with the relationship getting shaky and things getting in the way. If you guys really do love each other. Things will flow back together, and if they don't, friendship is always a good alternative.

I don't know if the rest of the TL community says much, but I express my sympathy with you, and I do sincerely hope that things get better.
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 10 2009 05:15 GMT
#11
Why do people always want to be friends with their ex's? It usually causes trouble in future relationships...

In any case, girl wasn't worth it OP. If she knows you feel uncomfortable about her having her ex as someone so close to talk to and spending a lot of time with him... and doesn't divorce herself from that for her respect for you. Then it's not worth the hassle.

It's likely she's looking for an excuse to get back with him and lo and behold it happened.

Don't sweat it there's other fish in the sea.
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TDK
Profile Joined December 2009
United States48 Posts
December 10 2009 05:17 GMT
#12
So many girl blogs lately... It seems like the holiday season is a good time for those
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Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
December 10 2009 05:19 GMT
#13
And I thought my relationship had issues... sorry that things turned out that way, but as stated above it's better that this happened sooner rather than later. Good luck.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
December 10 2009 05:30 GMT
#14
Don't waste time being jealous. Fighting over little things is what keeps life from becoming too dull, but don't overdo it man.
Trust is the foundation of a good relationship, if you don't trust her, then you might as well give it up because your jealousy, whether justified or not, will consume you and ruin the relationship anyway.
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
December 10 2009 05:34 GMT
#15
Ah man I'm sorta like this too, I get really sensitive over this kind of stuff. But I think your ex was just really confused. Stay strong!
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
December 10 2009 05:43 GMT
#16
On December 10 2009 14:30 ghostWriter wrote:
Don't waste time being jealous. Fighting over little things is what keeps life from becoming too dull, but don't overdo it man.
Trust is the foundation of a good relationship, if you don't trust her, then you might as well give it up because your jealousy, whether justified or not, will consume you and ruin the relationship anyway.


Gotta agree here, trust is huge and absolutely essential. If you don't have trust, you don't have shit.
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
December 10 2009 05:54 GMT
#17
Ah god dude. I feel you. My ex used to flirt with other guys around me all the time. At first I thought it was trying to draw my jealousy or something so I told her to quit doing it, but every time she pulled the 'we're just great friends' card, and it made me very uncomfortable because she was obviously flirting. Your case is even worse because the guy actually kissed her T.T; I would really not stand for that crap at all and just lay down an ultimatum the first time: "your friend" or me. Obviously in your case she would probably choose the friend and call you irrational, but there's no way around it because she seemed to want to rebound back to him anyways. Like everyone else has said, just move on and don't dwell on it. Sooner or later, someone will make you forget.
Heaven_n
Profile Joined April 2009
Mexico170 Posts
December 10 2009 06:12 GMT
#18
I recommend for you not to look for her and move on. Just look for another girl and don't do the same mistakes.

On December 10 2009 14:15 eshlow wrote:
Why do people always want to be friends with their ex's? It usually causes trouble in future relationships...

In any case, girl wasn't worth it OP. If she knows you feel uncomfortable about her having her ex as someone so close to talk to and spending a lot of time with him... and doesn't divorce herself from that for her respect for you. Then it's not worth the hassle.

It's likely she's looking for an excuse to get back with him and lo and behold it happened.

Don't sweat it there's other fish in the sea.


This. Stay strong just remember things happen for a reasion u'll meet a better girl soon
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Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
December 10 2009 06:24 GMT
#19
Sorry, she was just looking for excuses to get back with her ex (even temporarily) from the beginning, and your fickle nature was the perfect excuse
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
December 10 2009 06:42 GMT
#20
Well, I read the whole thing. Sort of like having someone listen to you, right?

Interesting how you and Other Guy switched places back and forth between boyfriend and "just friend".
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