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United States3360 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-21 12:32:13
November 21 2009 12:28 GMT
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Playing on TSLNightmarjoo.
Matchlist: http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/866883/1x1.html

Started at 12:55 am, ended at 6:38 am (not playing constantly).
Got approximately 8 hours sleep and woke at approximately 4 am, so I'd been up for 21 hours by the time I started laddering. Consumed 40 oz code red mountain dew.
Listened to a playlist containing the soundtrack from Wipeout 64 and GunZ.

Net win:loss - 10-6.
zvz 3-3
zvt 3-0
zvp 4-3
Maps played: Bluestorm 1.2, Heartbreak Ridge 1.2, Andromeda, Fighting Spirit 1.1.

Lost to EG.iNkA (TSL-iNkA) on hbr; had a really messy start, did gas trick before ovy and scouted on 9 and proceeded to do overpool speed. Went 5hatch muta -> hydra, did more or less zero damage with mutas. He made a lot of sair. My hydra and drone counts were too low from bad macro and so I did little damage to his army and couldn't get any breathing room. I probably should've gotten lurker before hydra range and tried to turtle on the ridges.

Lost to Rym[Rush] zvp on hbr, went lurker first, had late nat gas, and didn't turtle on ridges. Tried to attack for some reason when it made no sense to and lost a lot of units.

Lost to TSL-Slider zvp on fighting spirit; he went 9/9 2gate in his nat when I went 12hatch, and I was unable to place any sunks, probably shouldn't have made my 3rd hatch before sunks (it also tightened my nat up, which was bad for me at the time (better later on presumably)).

Lost to Xiaozi zvz on fighting spirit; I went overgas drones/sunk before lings with hatch before spire, he went 12pool 11gas 10 or 11hatch, speed first. I made a 3rd hatch at my nat after muta were out, don't remember timing and don't care to look it up. I had the advantage until he attacked with muta/scourge and I reacted very badly, allowing his scourge to hit my muta weakening them for his muta, and taking hits from his muta. Had I killed all of his scourge I would have been ahead or even. The massive gas advantage I had gotten from my build order was still in effect, though waning out as he had his nat gas, but I was getting my nat gas before the final battle. I think it mostly came down to I wasn't scouting with lings at all while he was, so he knew where my muta were and I had no clue where his muta or scourge were and was out of place/not prepared for the final attack.

Lost to TSL-Evil zvz on hbr. Dumb game. Overgas drones/sunk vs 9pool speed -> lair. I was waaaaaaay ahead, and decided it was a good time to attack (like me he had no expo, but I was ahead in every way). Attacked his main choke with lings and lost all of my lings without getting through, moved toward his gas with my muta (his ovy saw this) and somehow got myself flanked between scourge and muta. Awful scouting and decision making on my part. His scourge hit muta weakening them so his muta could kill mine and he quickly got better muta count. I threw the game in an instant =/

Lost to TSL-Closer zvz on hbr. I went overgas drones/sunk again, hatch before spire, he went 12/12/11. He was completely ahead at all points of time in the game.

I have concluded that making a hatch before spire is the wrong way to go vs 12/12/11, that it'd be better to capitalize on spire advantage, getting as high a drone count as possible, coasting on gas advantage while ideally getting an expo and getting nat gas up at or before he catches up on gas with his nat gas. Also think that it would be beneficial to get spores at this time, allowing me to make more drones and get a faster 3rd hatch than him, ideally with more larvae and equal gas.

Before I lost 4 games in a row I was in the top50 (#46 I think) at 2070.

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Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
November 21 2009 14:19 GMT
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Good luck on the next session!

Mine was slightly more low key, with 5 out of 6 of my matches being pvp.
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
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