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Weak people. Not in terms of physical strength, but in terms of how strong-minded a person is.
I am 19 by the way so this applies mainly to people around my age give or take one to three years.
I have a friend. He is a huge push-over and it bothers me so much. I don't understand how people can go through life not thinking for themselves and just letting shit happen to them without choice and not questioning anything. My friend is really nice and all but I just can't get over how naive this guy is.
In fact, I find a lot of my friends to be like this. Living their lives in a way that they are told or heavily influenced to do, or are expected to do by some other person or group such as their parents or peer group.
Obviously I don't ask some of my friends or confront them as to why they don't think for themselves, but it still does annoy me at times.
Personally I believe this is an age thing since people around my age aren't kids but aren't quite adults either, so they are exploring new options and just going with the flow not questioning much. That plus most adults seem to be more stronger-minded.
Just some of my thoughts atm.
  
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Katowice25012 Posts
um so why is he your friend
i can't see how this is anything but a brag post
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I can see how this isn't a brag post. I have a friend in the same situation and it really bothers me that he gets taken advantage of because he's a pushover.
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I think people are weak, because they aren't like me!
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not like he braging about having weak-willed pushover friends. they probably feel the most comfortable living their life like that. everyones different
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Some people actually don't mind being pushovers since they don't have big egos and stuff.
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help him?
might be better than despising him
just sayin'.
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I'm bothered by people that don't try.
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a generation of pushovers
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"Weak...why are you weakkk... because you lack...
hatred."
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You sound a bit conceited imo.
It's simply what they want, which is the social acceptance by peers. You don't seem to place as much value on this...that's it.
You can both be of equal strength of mind but you tend to follow your way w/out regard to others' opinions while your friend considers how others may think when determining what to do.
As long as he isn't induced into doing something that compromises his moral values, don't be so quick to say that his mind is weaker than yours.
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Osaka27158 Posts
It doesn't sound like you are very strong minded if you are unable to come to grips with the various personalities that surround you in your daily life. I'm not trying to be a dick, that is just the impression that I get. Why do you think people should live life the way you see fit?
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I can completely identify with you. A guy i'm friends with in the dorm room directly across from me is a pushover and it's kind of annoying even though he can be a nice/fun guy to be around.
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On November 19 2009 15:01 heyoka wrote:
um so why is he your friend
i can't see how this is anything but a brag post
because not everybody is perfect, retard
On November 19 2009 15:45 lvatural wrote:
You sound a bit conceited imo.
It's simply what they want, which is the social acceptance by peers. You don't seem to place as much value on this...that's it.
You can both be of equal strength of mind but you tend to follow your way w/out regard to others' opinions while your friend considers how others may think when determining what to do.
As long as he isn't induced into doing something that compromises his moral values, don't be so quick to say that his mind is weaker than yours.
I'm not quick to say it, I've known this guy for a while I know his habits and he is a huge push-over.
On November 19 2009 15:22 Gnarly wrote:
You have to realize why we are so weak right now. We just don't have any challenges, at all. We get what we want. We are an immature nation, at that. This is probably why you do not see any real culture from America, but the pride we so arrogantly display.
Ehh..
Fully agree.
On November 19 2009 15:45 Manifesto7 wrote:
It doesn't sound like you are very strong minded if you are unable to come to grips with the various personalities that surround you in your daily life. I'm not trying to be a dick, that is just the impression that I get. Why do you think people should live life the way you see fit?
I never said anywhere that I want him to live a certain way. I said I am bothered by how much he is pushed around, which clearly shows he is just listening to others and not doing what he likes.
On November 19 2009 15:45 Jonoman92 wrote:
I can completely identify with you. A guy i'm friends with in the dorm room directly across from me is a pushover and it's kind of annoying even though he can be a nice/fun guy to be around.
Well thanks.
As per usual 1/5, thanks TL.
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Just be a good friend and relax.
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On November 19 2009 15:01 heyoka wrote:
um so why is he your friend
i can't see how this is anything but a brag post
It's pretty obviously not a brag post...
and I know exactly what you mean, am the same age, and feel the same way.
you can't do anything about it and even if you try, they'll never change. Just forget about it and don't try to psychoanalyze people.
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On November 19 2009 15:13 Gnarly wrote:
Because when you are safe, you become weak; when you have to struggle, you become strong.
This is very true.
I was a bit of a push over, but now im not anymore, having some problems made me see life an entirely different way, I overrated how much it meant for people to like me or how I made them feel, now I dont care that much about that anymore.
At the same time I dont bother going into stupid discussions, if someone has a problem with me and its obvious he just wants to have an argument / be unfriendly with me, I just say "ok" or ignore him and do something else. I made myself ignore thoughts like that, couse people just want to "control" you or provoke some kinda of reaction, and if you just dont give a fuck they get annoyed.
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You should consider the fact that maybe he doesn't find those things as important as you do. That maybe he thinks it's not worth getting his panties in a bunch over an something that probably isn't very important or doesn't directly pertain to him.
Your friend is a lot more temperate than you. Not saying that that's generally a good thing, but it's definitely not a bad thing. My opinion is that temperance is a fine and acceptable way to lead your life as long as you and your family is taken care off.
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What bothers me the most is similar but its people with terrible mindsets, not even game related just people who give up on themselves easily or when you suggest something to help them, they sigh and just say "I bet I can't", or something selfdestructive, on the lines of giving up before they try. Obviously it depends on what you're asking them to do but when its just arg I get mad just thiinking about it, people who limit themselves who have annoy me the most because its a problem I have with myself. So yeah, from an outsiders point of view its basically since I'm having trouble changing myself why not just change others? Though we feel its something selfless in the end we're just putting our expectations on someone else.. ah so depressing 
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TL just pushed you around! what you gonna do about it? don't be a pushover!
by the way, you know who also are bothered by weak people? fascists.
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Is this guy happy with his life?
If yes, he is fine.
If no, help him.
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Just keep pushing him then, more benefit to you lolol xD
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Different Stroked for Different folks
Suck it up
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Honestly, I'm too "strong" in the sense that you are using. Im too stubborn, certain of my own ways and methods, etc. To the point that it hurts me. But its not until after that I realize I may have been wrong, or that letting my pride go may have been...freeing, to me. Anyway, obviously anyone of one extreme or another isnt a good thing, but you shouldnt make it a big deal and fixate on it, its their lives not yours.
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Is it possible that he isn't weak but is just apathetic about those certain things? Everyone isn't always interested in everything 100% and in order to make things easier and focus on the things they do care about, they let other people tell them what to do or think with things they are more apathetic about in life because it doesn't actually matter much to them.
Not saying one way or the other, just asking. ^_^ Cause I know I'm pretty apathetic about some things that others are very zealous about in terms of having a stance on it one way or the other.
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I am bothered by people who think their outlook on life is THE one to have.
I am bothered by people who are bothered by 1/5 blog rating.
The only difference is that I'm not actually bothered, just pointing things out.
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Usually, when you're annoyed by something you observe in others, it resonates with some of your own traits.
btw. reality is a bitch, it's easy to believe its real. You're noticing some things that your friend doesn't notice. It's not his fault that he doesn't see.
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I don't like OP's view on humanity. Sympathising with the strong is the root problem within society as a whole.
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On November 19 2009 16:40 resonance wrote:
As per usual 1/5, thanks TL.
lol this is a bad blog for TL because ***generalization*** I'm sure a lot of people on here are the kind of shy people you are describing in your OP. I gave you a 5 to help balance it out though.
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further proof that everyone on tl suffers from narcissistic personality disorder.
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On November 19 2009 15:04 Butigroove wrote:
I think people are weak, because they aren't like me!
dude if i lived in Rwanda I would be strong minded too!
@op: Why does this bother you so much?
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Sounds more like annoying asshole vs laid back, than strong v weak.
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Your friend has low self-esteem. Maybe his social skills didn't develop when he was younger. Probably due to not enough contact with other people or was surrounded by those who already felt confident about themselves.
If you wanna help him, show some initiative because he'll probably won't help himself.
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i feel bad for weak minded people...they just kind of drift through life rolling with what happens instead of grabbing it by the balls and making life what you want it to be. But as long as they're content i guess thats just how they are so whatev
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In a psych lecture about a few weeks ago a professor explained this experiment involving 3 kinds of dogs locked in a hammock attached to a shock floor. One of them had loose ones, and when they were shocked, they were capable of moving out of them. The other group was locked in completely, no chance of them getting out of the floor. And the third, merely was unshocked.
Then in the 2nd experiment, they took the same dogs and instead, without a hammock, all they had to do was jump over the shocking floor. the 1st and 3rd group successfully did so, but the 2nd one, a vast majority of them, just curled into a ball and whimpered.
There have been variations, if they redid the experiment with the 1st one in place of the 2nd one, they ended up just the same.
This concept of learned helpless, in theory, also applies to people I think, through some severe life experiences many end up passive and toiling in self-destructive behaviors and thinking.
But there were rare exceptions in some of the 2nd group dogs, as they still persisted to move out, but I wouldn't go as far as labeling them "strong" and they were "weaker."
I'm sure there is genetic predispositions, sociocultural factors, upbringing, that make people susceptible, but this invariable negative experience, and in many cases, it doesn't really matter who you are, it will hamper your capacities, and this general term for "strong" vs "weak" minded people, really, is difficult to discern, to fully understand others requires complete introspection in their shoes, and that's impossible, we only know from their actions, and to imagine from their perspectives, may not even be accurate at all.
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