How to Stop Worrying and Start Being a Yankees Fan
The New York Yankees have a commanding lead in the World Series.
You might be a Yankee fan. Good for you. If you are an American and not a fan, this is the time of the year in which you complain about how terrible the big bad Yankees are. If you are not an American, this may be nothing but confusing to you.
As a native New Yorker and very pleased Yankee fan, I invite all nonaligned folk to consider jumping on the bandwagon.
As a fan, I won't particularly respect you, but nothing would annoy Red Sox fans (and similarly sanctimonious and annoying Phillies' fans) more. So join in!
Here's an introduction:
The New York Yankees are the most hated team in North American sports.
They're the Evil Empire. They're the Damn Yankees. They're the Bombers. They're the Pinstripes. Why?
Since the first ring in 1923, they've won 26 World Series championships - that's one quarter of all titles won to date. The St. Louis Cardinals have the second most titles with a distant 10.
The Yankees have sent 44 players to the Baseball Hall of Fame. Without a doubt, they are the team with the greatest tradition in American sports.
Ah, but what do those haters say?
The Yankees are regularly derided as a team which buys its championships. The Yankees 2009 payroll was $201,449,289.
It's understandable that quaint Mom and Pop owned organizations such as the rival Red Sox would complain - after all, the Sox regularly spend well over $100 million per season ($122,696,000 in 2009, $133 million in '08). Just like your Mom and Pop!
The millions of dollars aside, the Sox spend 66% of the Yanks payroll and win 26% of the championships (most of which came in the 1910's).
EVIL!
If you're going to be a (bandwagon) Yankee fan, you'll need a rundown on the rivalry.
The Red Sox - Yankee Rivalry is one of the oldest (100+ years) and certainly the most intense in American sports.
I won't list in detail the history of the rivalry - that's what Wikipedia is for - but suffice to say, wearing a Yankee hat in Boston will invite something terrible. Wearing a Sox hat in New York might get you denied service in several fine establishments.
It's really fun.
In fact, during the 2008 US presidential campaign, the rivalry was spoken about in nationally televised debates.
• Late October, 2007: Former mayor of New York City Rudolph Giuliani, a staunch Yankee fan, said during his presidential campaign that he was going to cheer for the Red Sox during their World Series appearance against the Colorado Rockies. Giuliani justified his support of the Red Sox by claiming to be a fan of American League baseball. The next day, the New York Post and New York Daily News printed doctored photos of Giuliani as a Red Sox fan on their covers with the headlines "TRAITOR!" (Daily News) and "RED COAT" (Post). Topps would parody this in a 2008 baseball card where Giuliani is CGI inserted into a picture of the Red Sox celebrating their 2007 World Series championship as if he is celebrating with them. • November, 2007: During the YouTube Republican Presidential Debate run by CNN, Giuliani was asked about his support for the Red Sox by one of the questioners. In response to the mayor's answer, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, who was in office during the Red Sox 2004 win, claimed that all Americans are united in hatred of the Yankees.
And for good measure, here's another interesting fact from the rivalry's Wikipedia page.
• April 13, 2008, Rumors of a construction worker burying a Red Sox jersey in the concrete of the New Yankee Stadium are verified after anonymous tips led to the location of the jersey. The worker, identified as Gino Castignoli, had buried a David Ortiz jersey in what will become a service corridor in the hopes of cursing the new stadium. After extracting the jersey from underneath two feet of concrete, Yankees' President Randy Levine indicated that the shirt would be donated to the Jimmy Fund to be auctioned for the charity long associated with the Red Sox.
So, let's catch you up to the present day.
This season, the Yankees won 1st place in their division (American League East). They won the pennant (the American League Championship) and right now they are leading the World Series 3-1 against the Philadelphia Phillies.
The Phillies, a longtime rival of our cross town idiots, the New York Mets, are the defending 2008 World Series Champions. They're only 24 away from tying the Yankees total (but it looks like it's going to be 25 pretty soon)
To answer the next hostile question: It seems like the Yankees will lose tonight (but I wouldn't underestimate the Phillies ability to blow it). If they do lose, the Evil Empire has two chances to win the championship in New York. I'm not going to complain about the prospect of an in-town win and a parade, you know what I mean?
To my friends in the city of brotherly love: I don't think your notoriously rowdy fans are doing their jobs. A-Rod's feelings don't seem to be hurt by your steroid chants. But keep it up!
To my neighbors to the north in New England: Congratulations! The Philadelphia faithful have taken after you like a child takes after their whiny, self-righteous father in denial about his drug problem - only, they don't (yet) have the hilariously hypocritical recent history of steroid use like both of our teams do. But you keep chanting about steroids and money! It'll be a long season for a lot of you!
To the unaligned: Consider the dark side. It's a lot of fun.
On November 03 2009 11:46 choboPEon wrote: lee is great. but what are you going to do next game? i'm guessing not a whole lot.
we'll take it a game at a time. not sure who yanks will throw out for game 6 (if there is one), but in any case our left-handed hitters need to stop struggling vs. left handed pitchers as they did vs CC. (ofc this is assuming yanks send out a left hander).
yea its going to be an uphill battle but didnt it look grim when a certain team was one out from going home, but came alllllllllllllllllllll the way back against their rival to win the series and eventually win the WS?
also on a side-note i friggen hate bandwagoners. during the phillies parade last year never seen so many people from school (including friends) who dont even know who #6 is act like they've been supporting phillies since they were young.
im sure 2004 is on the phillie's minds. it should be - what's the alternative? giving up, i guess. they should and probably are drawing hope from anywhere they can find it.
andy pettite looks like he'll be going for 6. i have a bunch of confidence in him - hes got more consistency than burnett. a.j. is better but is much streakier - as made evident by tonight's fiasco (and game 2's gem).
anyway, no one really likes bandwagoners. i only made that a part of the thread cause sox fans (and the rest of american baseball fans, very much including phillies fans) often yell at yankee fans for being fair weather bandwagoners as if they don't have any in their camp.
sox nation especially is full of bandwagoners as of the past decade.
this thread is really a big fuck you to boston. my hate for philly sports is much much smaller.
Yankee fans who grew up in New York are very respectable (as fans), if not despicable (as a cult of Satan worshippers). Sure, they used to jeer at and dismiss those loser Red Sox fans, but they've taken their lumps.
But those band wagoners who join the Evil Empire, they're worse than Al Quaeda *.
Band wagoners who jumped on to the Boston band wagon, I nothing them and I wouldn't bother to defend them if people do hate their servile, lemming-esque behavior.
Summary: supporting local team: good supporting distant, popular team: Al Quaeda hating #2: patriotic hating local fans: privilege of rival local fans
* exceptions made for foreign fans rooting for one of their own. If Japanese want to root for Ichiro on the Nintendo owned Mariners, go for it.
On November 03 2009 12:48 igotmyown wrote: Yankee fans who grew up in New York are very respectable (as fans), if not despicable (as a cult of Satan worshippers).
fair enough
i can admit that, because of the sheer size of the yankees fanbase, we've got plenty of idiots cheering for us.
On November 03 2009 11:39 choboPEon wrote: The Yankees are regularly derided as a team which buys its championships. The Yankees 2009 payroll was $201,449,289.
That's it right there. The $200m is double what the Phillies payroll was last year, when they won the world series. Not to mention other team's salaries.
I give the Yankees props for not ending up like the Knicks though, with the highest payroll and worst team.
On November 03 2009 12:53 micronesia wrote: I support the Yankees and Mets equally so when we had that subway series a few years back I was very confused... had no idea what to do lol
I am exactly like you, hahahaha, but didn't you love the fact whole the two New York teams in 2000 had a monopoly of baseball?? hahahaha, it was the best world series yet!
The 2001 World Series is probably my favorite one of all time. That Diamondbacks team was amazing and so fun to watch. I remember going to bed (I was in the 4th grade) when the Diamondbacks appeared to have the game during the World Series, then they would put in their closer (Byung-Hyun Kim, I think it was?) and he would blow saves and lost two games this way. However, I stayed awake for all of game 7 and got to witness an amazing game.
It made it even better than the win was over the Yankees.
On November 03 2009 13:31 motbob wrote: So your defense of the Yankees buying their championships is that "the Red Sox does that too"? Lame. Besides, that's only been true recently.
i don't really feel the need to defend anything, this is more of a joking victory lap.
but, while the sox spend money and have had a similar roid problem, they continue to complain about money and roids. its silly.
On November 03 2009 13:36 GoShox wrote: The 2001 World Series is probably my favorite one of all time. That Diamondbacks team was amazing and so fun to watch. I remember going to bed (I was in the 4th grade) when the Diamondbacks appeared to have the game during the World Series, then they would put in their closer (Byung-Hyun Kim, I think it was?) and he would blow saves and lost two games this way. However, I stayed awake for all of game 7 and got to witness an amazing game.
It made it even better than the win was over the Yankees.
2001 was a great series. tragic but great nonetheless.
The New York Yankees having a commanding lead in the World Series.
No offense to you man, and I'm not flaming, but if you have graduated 8th grade, then you are the reason no one respects American public schools.
I ADDED SEVERAL EXTRA LETTERS. fuck! from here on out, i'll send you the first drafts of my blog posts and we can work together to improve the quality and eliminate all mistakes. thanks for the heads up man. not flaming and no offense: you're great.
You can only jump on the Yankees bandwagon if you have no respect for yourself. It's basically saying "I love capitalism as my mother." Bandwagoners couldn't care less who Lou Gehrig was.
That being said, go Phils!!!! Let's make it a double!!!
Good timing on this blog. Especially with the Phils finishing a beatdown tonight.
still watching? 8-5 certainly isnt a beat down and it ain't over yet.
Damn, my timing was bad. The Phils hold though.
On November 03 2009 13:36 GoShox wrote: The 2001 World Series is probably my favorite one of all time. That Diamondbacks team was amazing and so fun to watch. I remember going to bed (I was in the 4th grade) when the Diamondbacks appeared to have the game during the World Series, then they would put in their closer (Byung-Hyun Kim, I think it was?) and he would blow saves and lost two games this way. However, I stayed awake for all of game 7 and got to witness an amazing game.
It made it even better than the win was over the Yankees.
Huge Diamondback fan. This was unpopular in NY, as you can imagine. But this was probably the best moment of my young life at that point. But to get there, we did have to watch poor BYK self-distruct before our eyes. Great world series though.
Phillies in 7 phuck yeah, go Cliff Lee. phuck yeah. Phillies in 7 PHUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Utley world series homerun record PHUCK YEAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!
Phillies rule and Yankees can go phuck themselves....
The current incarnation of the Yankees is the most classless organization in baseball. The way they threw Joe Torre under the bus was despicable.
Their departure from homegrown talent to buy up mercs is derided by every true fan of baseball, and is the primary reason that the most powerful team in baseball has been title-less for the last nine years.
I would encourage the op to talk to some real Yankees fans who have a better grasp of the game.
I'll be a Reds fan till the day I die and root for everyone and anyone who is opposing the Yankees.
Baseball is struggling to stay relevant in the south/midwest and it's a travesty that a lot of fans won't support their hometown teams because they are straining to keep up with the warped economics that the Yankees have brought to baseball in the last two decades. Therein lies the reason I detest the Yankees.
To "the nonaligned," follow whatever team you feel compelled to, but for God's sake don't just go straight for the Yankees because one Yankees fan beckoned with their 26 championships and "we are the greatest" propaganda. Learn the history of the game, get a feel for the different teams/players, and then pick a team you can relate to and get behind. Sure, it's easy to get behind a winner, but there's so many other things that can make a team appealing.
On November 03 2009 14:45 s_side wrote: The current incarnation of the Yankees is the most classless organization in baseball. The way they threw Joe Torre under the bus was despicable.
Their departure from homegrown talent to buy up mercs is derided by every true fan of baseball, and is the primary reason that the most powerful team in baseball has been title-less for the last nine years.
I would encourage the op to talk to some real Yankees fans who have a better grasp of the game.
I am a "real" Yankees fan, thanks, and have a grasp of the game. Or would any real fan simply not be a Yanks fan? Ah, no.
We threw Torre under the bus? Not only did he fail to win a championship for almost a decade but the team was on the downswing with an admittedly mammoth salary. So, we threw him under the "bus", or, a $5+ million/year job with the Dodgers. I'm sure that he is not losing sleep over it. I'm definitely not.
No need to be so dramatic over it. Dropping Torre for Girardi is the least scummy thing we've done in years.
Their "departure" from talent? The Yanks have been this way for quite a while - not just in their current incarnation. I'm not sure what you mean by this and so am not sure how to respond except to say that this has been a problem people have had with the Yanks for decades and decades and deeeecades. Long before I was born, certainly.
Anyway, the real reason I'm a Yankee fan (and this is the case for most "real" fans) is the simple my father, and his father before him, etc. I grew up watching them, it's something to share with dad and a few friends. It's something fun to talk about over a beer with a buddy or something to be funny about with a rival from NE or Philly or anywhere.
I'm not one of those idiots who would actually get into a physical fight over sports.
On November 03 2009 14:49 p4NDemik wrote: I'll be a Reds fan till the day I die and root for everyone and anyone who is opposing the Yankees.
Baseball is struggling to stay relevant in the south/midwest and it's a travesty that a lot of fans won't support their hometown teams because they are straining to keep up with the warped economics that the Yankees have brought to baseball in the last two decades. Therein lies the reason I detest the Yankees.
To "the nonaligned," follow whatever team you feel compelled to, but for God's sake don't just go straight for the Yankees because one Yankees fan beckoned with their 26 championships and "we are the greatest" propaganda. Learn the history of the game, get a feel for the different teams/players, and then pick a team you can relate to and get behind. Sure, it's easy to get behind a winner, but there's so many other things that can make a team appealing.
I'm not really beckoning anyone in any serious way. I really doubt any nonaligned fan will run to the Yanks because of this post that I made - that wasn't the point. It's a joking victory lap in view of rival fans, an excuse to post some pretty pictures, and a way
As a Yankee fan, I get enough shit when ANY team other than us does well (nevermind the Sox or Mets, etc). I reserve the right to send it right back at times like this.
I know we're the Evil Empire for some legitimate reasons. But, frankly, sometimes that's half the fun.
On November 03 2009 14:45 s_side wrote: The current incarnation of the Yankees is the most classless organization in baseball. The way they threw Joe Torre under the bus was despicable.
Their departure from homegrown talent to buy up mercs is derided by every true fan of baseball, and is the primary reason that the most powerful team in baseball has been title-less for the last nine years.
I would encourage the op to talk to some real Yankees fans who have a better grasp of the game.
At the time, George Steinbrenner wanted Torre out. Once that happens, there's really nothing you can do about it.
In my humble opinion, Torre got both too much credit and too much blame. He won all those championships because he had insane teams and a healthy dose of luck. He many failings as a manager, the most prominent being the complete inability to manage a bullpen. He drove rode certain relievers (Scott Proctor comes to mind) into the ground. He was also prone to impulse decisions, like batting A-Rod 8th in the ALDS a few years ago.
At the same time, there's no denying that he handled the media well, even when the Yankees started losing. The way he was separated from the organization was unfortunate, but can hardly be considered "classless." Because of the history the yankees have with some of their players, leaving them behind when they're no longer good fits with the organization can become extremely difficult (Bernie Williams).
The Yankees in part have been forced to make the shift from buying up free agents because most teams are locking up their starting pitchers. The interesting thing is that people complain that the financial resources of the Yankees allow them to compete on a year-to-year basis. While I can't deny that this is true, I would like to point out that their financial resources put them at a severe disadvantage during negotiations, and almost forces them to overpay and hand out extended deals. This leads to years where their almost, but not quite, limitless resource pool is tied up in useless assets such as Carl Pavano, etc. The same will most likely be true of A-Rod, Burnett, Texeira, and Derek Jeter when he gets his extension.
The Yankees do have an advantage over other teams. I don't think the gap is as wide as it seems. At any rate, it would seem that the Yankees are good for baseball. Ratings are way up from last year's series. Love them or hate them, they make baseball more popular.
Factoring in the cost of Stadiums to Professional Sports in America, from the Yankees to the Cowboys... makes none of them proffitible. The proffitablity comes from the fact that taxpayers support the vast majority of the the construction of what would be cost-prohibative structures. Why do "they" allow this to happen? 1: It makes rich people richer. 2: It keeps a large percentage of the populus preoccupied and pacified.
If we're getting into taxpayers subsidizing teams, I will totally admit that, for no good reason, sports is the one area where I completely go against some important personal ideals.
If the Yanks never won a championship again because the tax payers got their money back on the stadium (and spent it on housing and countless other important projects around the city) and never paid for another one - I'd be willing to make that trade and other ones like it in a second.
Outside of the field, I'm not okay with the way the business of sports is conducted. It kind of tears me in two and it is the one major issue where I put my tail beneath my legs, turn a blind eye and focus on the field. It's shitty. I don't like it or the way I act about it.
This is not a Yankee exclusive problem and, anyway, I'm pretending the Yankees are perfect right now. Don't interrupt that!
Guliani was (is) an asshole for buying the Yanks and Mets new stadiums and Bloomberg is a giant hypocrite for (among other reasons) criticizing it in one breathe and getting on his knees, ready to dole out tax dollars for a Jets stadium and the Olympics that no one wanted. I'm fully in support of ending the public money used to support the stadiums.
With all the arguments VS "socialism" these days, Ive collected about 5 or 6 instances of the US living with full socialism in some capacity over the last 30 years, that people have taken little notice of. Though... this one was very shocking to me.
I was a football fan for many many years, but have essentially substituded SC for that.
The OP is really well done and I'm totally not about trying to derail your thread. I'll be pulling for the Yankees (players) for you -.-d
its a perfectly legitimate point and the best thing to be discussed in the thread thus far, my op included.
actually, i had a long talk about this just this weekend because of the upcoming elections!
this is going to be a rather depressing election day in the context of new york city and this is one of many reasons for that.
as far as u.s. socialism, i must admit that i am not someone who is frightened by the mere thought of the word. in fact, i think of myself as a social democrat in many ways. you dont have to be a socialist, a social democrat or even a democrat to think that the recent fear mongering with the world socialism has been laughable on countless levels and
whoa, this thread took an interesting turn!
anyway, i can dereail my blog all i like! but i guess for now, ill just leave you with: i completely agree. american sport, in the business sense at least, is upsetting to say the least.
then again, the american business world is more than a little upsetting in more than a few ways, know what i mean?
Lol baseball. 162 games for each of 30 teams over more than half the year, and only 8 teams even make it into the playoffs. Combine that with no salary cap, and it's a recipe for disaster and fan angst. How long has the MLB ridden the wake of baseball being America's sport and fan-bases being passed down by tradition? It's terrible.
Ironically, the only amount of baseball I've truly ever enjoyed was the Red Sox breaking the curse a few seasons back.
On November 03 2009 22:50 QibingZero wrote: Lol baseball. 162 games for each of 30 teams over more than half the year, and only 8 teams even make it into the playoffs. Combine that with no salary cap, and it's a recipe for disaster and fan angst.
Word.
At least our owners, crazy as the Steinbrunners may be, spend to win.
And in American sports, there is only one rival to the Yanks domination of the league:
On November 03 2009 22:50 QibingZero wrote: Lol baseball. 162 games for each of 30 teams over more than half the year, and only 8 teams even make it into the playoffs. Combine that with no salary cap, and it's a recipe for disaster and fan angst.
Word.
At least our owners, crazy as the Steinbrunners may be, spend to win.
And in American sports, there is only one rival to the Yanks domination of the league:
Oh god. The mere mention of the Canadiens, Yankees, and Jets in one page. Only missing team is the Lakers. My head is about to explode. I would love the Phillies to send out Pedro for game 7 and have them crush the Yanks but let's not pull another 'leave Pedro in for an extra inning to blow the game.' What a fitting way as a Sox fan to watch the World Series end!
On November 05 2009 05:30 Dknight wrote: Oh god. The mere mention of the Canadiens, Yankees, and Jets in one page. Only missing team is the Lakers. My head is about to explode. I would love the Phillies to send out Pedro for game 7 and have them crush the Yanks but let's not pull another 'leave Pedro in for an extra inning to blow the game.' What a fitting way as a Sox fan to watch the World Series end!
i must have missed the jets mention
anyway, pedro is starting game 6 so that dream is pretty much dead.
You had mentioned the Jets in passing concerning the stadium built with tax dollar money.
But if Pedro can force a GAME 7!! and have Lee pitch again, oh god. That'd be magnificent. Then Lee can throw a 2 hitter to SO the Yankees and win MVP. And against Sabathia. Holy shit I'd be in heaven.
if lee makes an appearance in a game 7 it will probably be as a RP - at least, thats the general consensus. i think ill go to a bar tonight for the game. i am so so so excited.
i really dont think there will be a game 7. if there is, i think we can certainly still win it but suffice to say i will be much much more worried than i am now.
It's really a shame what Hamels did to himself. Last year after winning the World Series, Cole went on pretty much every talk show in America, completely embracing his new found celebrity status. He spent so much time taking in fame, that he failed to put the work in he needed to as a pitcher during the off season. The result is a Hamels who just isn't the same powerhouse pitcher we had in the 08-09 season. And really, if we had that Hamels back, I think It would be fair to say that the situation going into games 6 and 7 would be quite a bit different.
Lee says he's open to starting game 7 and as a Phillies fan, I honestly think that's the best shot we have. But hell, none of that matters if Pedro doesn't win tonight. Overall, I think this has been a good series, hell when was the last time a World Series even went to game 6?
Yeah. I'm incredibly excited about Game 6 and 7. Before it was more of a 'blah, who cares' attitude. But with the potential pitching duels, whats at stake (Yankees gunning for 27, Phillies repeating), and the end of the baseball season coming up, I am so pumped for hopefully the next two games. Even with the Celtics on tonight. At least we gave it to the 76ers last night ;]
On November 05 2009 07:34 Athos wrote: It's really a shame what Hamels did to himself. Last year after winning the World Series, Cole went on pretty much every talk show in America, completely embracing his new found celebrity status. He spent so much time taking in fame, that he failed to put the work in he needed to as a pitcher during the off season. The result is a Hamels who just isn't the same powerhouse pitcher we had in the 08-09 season. And really, if we had that Hamels back, I think It would be fair to say that the situation going into games 6 and 7 would be quite a bit different.
Lee says he's open to starting game 7 and as a Phillies fan, I honestly think that's the best shot we have. But hell, none of that matters if Pedro doesn't win tonight. Overall, I think this has been a good series, hell when was the last time a World Series even went to game 6?
it's been a few years. this has been a very good series either way, i gotta agree.
On November 07 2009 07:07 food wrote: plz buy yourself another championship in 10 yrs
We define ourselves by our success. I'm sorry, but the championship ring is our birthright.
must be feeling great since youve spent like 1 bil and couldnt win shit for 9 years i dont mind yanks winning once in 9 since it only proves how terrible you have to suck compared to teams with 3-4 times smaller budgets. Shitting away the money is about the only birthright new yorkers have( besides being annoying)
On November 07 2009 07:07 food wrote: plz buy yourself another championship in 10 yrs
We define ourselves by our success. I'm sorry, but the championship ring is our birthright.
must be feeling great since youve spent like 1 bil and couldnt win shit for 9 years i dont mind yanks winning once in 9 since it only proves how terrible you have to suck compared to teams with 3-4 times smaller budgets. Shitting away the money is about the only birthright new yorkers have( besides being annoying)
the best part about people who hate the yankees is how they often make it this bizarre personal thing as if they have been individually slighted.
food, whatever team you are a fan of, its full of multi multi millionaires. stop being such a self-righteous idiot and acting as though the yankees alone are the big band wolf.
just wait till rivera is done and the old core gets even older posada should be done too rivera alone carried yanks every time, i dont know if they had a shot this year without him and he doesnt even get the MVP rofl
Look, unless we have like a Rays fan here, the team defined by being the player farm for the rest of the industry, no one really has a right to complain about the Yankees budget. It is the strategy that defined the Sox's success this decade, the strategy that actually brought Mets to be something of a competitive team, we can list on and on. The Yankees spend more...so what? Kettle, pot.
Yeah, I am pretty worried at when Rivera gets done for -.-
On November 08 2009 07:50 food wrote: just wait till rivera is done and the old core gets even older posada should be done too rivera alone carried yanks every time, i dont know if they had a shot this year without him and he doesnt even get the MVP rofl
they had the best offense in the majors and a pretty good rotation, what are you babbling about?
On November 08 2009 07:50 food wrote: just wait till rivera is done and the old core gets even older posada should be done too rivera alone carried yanks every time, i dont know if they had a shot this year without him and he doesnt even get the MVP rofl
they had the best offense in the majors and a pretty good rotation, what are you babbling about?
i love how you bring up a random point thats not even relevant to what i said and its supposed to completely counter my argument yankee fans truly suck.
On November 07 2009 07:07 food wrote: plz buy yourself another championship in 10 yrs
We define ourselves by our success. I'm sorry, but the championship ring is our birthright.
must be feeling great since youve spent like 1 bil and couldnt win shit for 9 years i dont mind yanks winning once in 9 since it only proves how terrible you have to suck compared to teams with 3-4 times smaller budgets. Shitting away the money is about the only birthright new yorkers have( besides being annoying)
the best part about people who hate the yankees is how they often make it this bizarre personal thing as if they have been individually slighted.
food, whatever team you are a fan of, its full of multi multi millionaires. stop being such a self-righteous idiot and acting as though the yankees alone are the big band wolf.
ass.
agreed. only the red sox fans have the right to make it personal. not everyone makes millions of dollars, but the salary minimum is 300,000, if I'm not mistaken. It's not like your players are barely getting food on the dinner table.
It's not our fault that we have a bigger budget than other teams. What do you want? A communist-style system with complete parity?
I'm not a big fan of the 2009 Yankees. Kudos to them for winning and all but I just can't respect them. I remember the golden days of the Yankees centering around Posada, Jeter, Rivera, Clemens, Pettitte, O'Neill, Williams and everyone else. Pretty much the same crop year in and year out. It was fun to follow the Sox-Yanks rivalry. If there was a team I knew almost as good as the BoSox, it was the Yankees. So many memories. Pedro pushing Zimmer down, Clemens versus the BoSox and all of the drama from the late 1990s and early 2000s. The last few years of both the Sox and the Yankees just seem so bought and unfulfilling as a fan. The days of a player staying with one team throughout his career is soon to be gone. I can only hope a few of the likes of Lester, Bucholtz, Pedroira, Ellsbury, or Delcarmen can carry on the tradition for Bahstahn.
I think the MLB needs to replace the luxury tax and just have a flat salary cap. It's easy to just throw money around but there needs to be more value in making smart financial choices that have a significant impact on the team's future. Not everyone can be Boston, NY, or LA and spend without really feeling the consequences. What's a wasted 10 million to them? Not much. Other teams, they're stuck with that mistake for a while.
lol @ a BAHSTAN fan bitching about spending. you're still miles ahead of the rest of the league and buy just as much
but it is retarded that the mlb doesnt have a cap. small market teams cant compete, or if they do, the window is for about a year or two before all those guys hit the market. it's retarded
On November 10 2009 05:57 Hawk wrote: lol @ a BAHSTAN fan bitching about spending. you're still miles ahead of the rest of the league and buy just as much
but it is retarded that the mlb doesnt have a cap. small market teams cant compete, or if they do, the window is for about a year or two before all those guys hit the market. it's retarded
Boston wouldn't never have got into the financial rat race if not for the yankees, 86 years of losing, and said yankees fans taunting them for said 86 years.
"Unlike the Yankees, he chose not to go the extra distance for his fans in Boston," Steinbrenner said of Boston owner John Henry, after the Yankees got A-Rod, after the Red Sox failed to close the deal. "We understand that John Henry must be embarrassed, frustrated and disappointed by his failure in this transaction."
Kudos to having the best offense. The Yankees are renowned for putting together great offensive teams, why I remember a few years back they had the murderers row of hitters, the scariest lineup since the early 20th century. No team had a chance between them and the title that year.
On November 10 2009 05:57 Hawk wrote: lol @ a BAHSTAN fan bitching about spending. you're still miles ahead of the rest of the league and buy just as much
but it is retarded that the mlb doesnt have a cap. small market teams cant compete, or if they do, the window is for about a year or two before all those guys hit the market. it's retarded
I'm not defending the Sox at all. If you read the post instead of "BAHSTAHN BAHSTAHN BAHSTAHN" you'd realize that. It's bullshit not to have a cap and really inhibits any small market team to stay competitive for several years at a time. Just look at the Florida Marlins: they develop their talent extremely well, trade well, win a World Series, and then when their stars hit the market, the Marlins most of the time cannot afford to sign them. This is why 75% of the teams that win are from the biggest markets with the deepest pockets.
If you're talking about 'murderers row,' that was in 1927 with Ruth and Gehrig. Let us not tarnish that reputation by comparing them to some Yankee team in the past two decades.
Oh no you can't take away that proud year from the yankees.
Casual fans and pundits everywhere are wondering: Is the 2004 Yankees lineup the best of all time?
Arod, Matsui, Giambi, Jeter, Kenny Lofton, Bernie Williams... They entered the playoffs that year with the most feared lineup in the playoffs like ever and ended with a playoff run for the ages.
The article you reference is written before spring training even starts. Fearsome on paper doesn't translate to fearsome once the season starts. Giambi struggled heavily, batting close to .200. Lofton played in less than 100 games. Williams struggled as well. The team didn't come close to realizing their full potential and can't even be compared to the 27 Yankees.
I prefer sensationalism to facts, thank you very much
im not a particularly huge baseball fan (but i love pitching duels and fall ball) but it would be a lot more interesting to watch if they adopted caps like nfl and nhl.
interestingly enough, i have a few friends who insist that the league doesnt need a cap... and theyre not yanks or sox fans.
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