EPTI can't believe this guy is still alive - Page 4
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
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b3h47pte
United States1317 Posts
On October 22 2009 12:48 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Wasn't he released because the Warrant had a mistake and made it invalid or something? according to wikipedia, the japanese lacked some papers from the french so they just decided not to go after him. atleast that's how i read it. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On October 22 2009 12:40 omninmo wrote: what bunch of lousy hypocrites. "i cant believe this guy is still alive.. he should be killed for what he did" Fucking ultra-liberals. you really dont think this guy should be executed? Regardless, most people have been saying 'locked up', not killed anyways. | ||
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Draconizard
628 Posts
Ban? | ||
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theron[wdt]
United States395 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
Wow, chill the fuck out. On topic, wow at the pics...that looks like a LOT of meat in the fridge O.o | ||
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Dr.Lettuce
United Kingdom663 Posts
On October 22 2009 13:06 GGQ wrote: Fucking ultra-liberals. you really dont think this guy should be executed? Regardless, most people have been saying 'locked up', not killed anyways. It's not a question of being liberal. It's a question of: Who the fuck are you to take away some one elses life? No he shouldn't be executed. He should be in prison for the rest of his life, or in a mental hospital. NOT being treated like a fucking celebrity in a foreign country. Anyway, I don't want to de-rail this thread in to another death penalty one. So I'll leave it at that. I'm disgusted with the lacking of papers to deal with him in Japan. Send him back to France then? God sakes how can he possibly walk around a free man and be idolised for what he did. | ||
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Chef
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I love that line about him being found sane but 'evil.' First of all, what is evil, and second of all, how the hell is someone who thinks they inherit the attributes of what they eat sane? It's not stupid in the 'everyone believes it in this culture' sense, it's actually 'I have no grip on reality even without peer pressure.' Also, as long as he doesn't shoot or eat anymore people, I really couldn't care less if he isn't in jail. What a waste of money. Retribution against insane people is absolutely worthless in terms of what we create legal institutions to do. You can't make an example of an insane person and think that the next insane person who thinks about doing this is going to have second thoughts. Obviously I'm using insane in an incredibly generic way, but whatever specific mental condition a person has, if a judge can deem they couldn't control their actions, there's no point in sending them to jail. You either try to fix them or you keep them in a pillow room. Or maybe you believe in eugenics, and you kill them. God sakes how can he possibly walk around a free man and be idolised for what he did. I doubt he's idolised... Not in the sense you're thinking of. When someone is called a macabre celebrity, it means people are fascinated by how disgusting they are. Like they want to gawk at him. I've never heard him talk recently, so I couldn't tell you if they like listening to him now because he's led such an interesting life, or if they like listening to him because he's completely nuts. My guess is the former, or people wouldn't feel safe around him.--- Here's some perspective just for fun. Would you rather be tortured for several months, even years of your life? Or would you rather some insane person kill you relatively quickly, then eat and have sex with your body? I'd take the latter every time. And yet do we feel sick to our stomach when we hear about our governments torturing suspected terrorists? Who sometimes turn out to be innocent people caught in the wrong place at the wrong time? I don't. Not sick to my stomach at least, though I think it's a highly debatable intellectual topic. He didn't torture her at all. That shows some semblance of a person who is more strange than he is malicious, and I think that is a huge factor in how one should form their opinion of him. He even relates his initial disgust with his deed, as if he expected it to be somehow less gory and intimate. And yet somehow our reaction is to be so repulsed by the idea of a story like this... When we hear in the news everyday about people who are tortured, or maimed in military conflict. Personally I try to be consistent in what I find repulsive. | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On October 22 2009 13:49 Chef wrote: I love that line about him being found sane but 'evil.' First of all, what is evil? Dictionary says "Morally bad or wrong". Good enough for you? | ||
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
It's a truly sobering feeling. | ||
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omninmo
2349 Posts
On October 22 2009 13:06 GGQ wrote: Fucking ultra-liberals. you really dont think this guy should be executed? Regardless, most people have been saying 'locked up', not killed anyways. your name calling indicates to me that you are not one for discussion but rather prone to repeating what you hear from the radio and/or television. so we will not have a discussion on capital punishment. the state should just kill undesirables... because they can. but do not be tricked into thinking that this is justice. rather is it fascism where might makes right. also consider this: locked up means "lives for free" on taxpayer money. do you know how much it cost to keep someone in prison for life (or 20+ years?). putting someone in prison for life is tantamount to locking them in your basement, and providing 3 meals a day, supervising their recreation, and overseeing any visitors. Is this the "justice" you seek? i am just talking about the impracticality of imprisonment. i have left any moral or ethical questions aside since such questions only lead to dilemas where the two participants emote based on their personal, subjective convictions and any hint of objectivity is absent. | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
This also solves the sticky issue of capital punishment. I bet many would prefer the death penalty over life in prison. This way, the punishment can be gradated more objectively -- the difficulty of labor depending on their sentence. I believe this is roughly how it is in North Korea; that is one thing that they have it right. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On October 22 2009 14:31 omninmo wrote: your name calling indicates to me that you are not one for discussion but rather prone to repeating what you hear from the radio and/or television. so we will not have a discussion on capital punishment. the state should just kill undesirables... because they can. but do not be tricked into thinking that this is justice. rather is it fascism where might makes right. You're name-calling too. Don't try to take the moral high ground on that, you "lousy hypocrite". An eye for an eye is certainly justice, if not charity. It's entirely consistent to be opposed to killing innocent people and in favor of killing people who have first killed others: it may be opposed to your own values, but it's not hypocritical. | ||
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fanatacist
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GunSlinger
614 Posts
I'd like to meat this man perhaps... Oh, and why is it every fucking time I read through a thread there is always a goddamn 4chan picture! Stop killing TL you little shits. | ||
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
money should not be able to assuage his freedom in our legal systems. I think more went on here than we know about. for heavens sake if you're a person who performs the sacred sending ceremony for the dead people consider you dirty and dont believe you have a real job and this guy is making money off a book about fucking and eating the dead? god damn cannibal oj simpson what do the people who knew this girl feel? i wont take the moral high ground on this case, a man like that should either be dead or locked up. how do japanese people accept him and read his book? do men over there objectify women THAT much? how does he live? this is ridiculous and now I have a bunch of questions but i sure as hell wont buy that book. if any book should be pirated, its that one money should not be able to assuage his freedom in our legal systems. I think more went on here than we know about. for heavens sake if you're a person who performs the sacred sending ceremony for the dead people consider you dirty and dont believe you have a real job and this guy is making money off a book about fucking and eating the dead? god damn cannibal oj simpson [edit  I doubt he's idolised... Not in the sense you're thinking of. When someone is called a macabre celebrity, it means people are fascinated by how disgusting they are. Like they want to gawk at him. I've never heard him talk recently, so I couldn't tell you if they like listening to him now because he's led such an interesting life, or if they like listening to him because he's completely nuts. My guess is the former, or people wouldn't feel safe around him. thats some sensible perspective. chef it took your post to get me past my initial wave of repulsion I still think, despite the fact he may never kill again, it is still worth taxpayer money for him to be locked up. would you rather have a condom and not need it or need a condom and not have it? | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
found a picture of this man ![[image loading]](http://tejiendoelmundo.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/sagawa.jpg) | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On October 22 2009 15:21 GunSlinger wrote: I'm disgusted in so many ways I just... wow. I don't even know. I'm horrified. I'd like to meat this man perhaps... Oh, and why is it every fucking time I read through a thread there is always a goddamn 4chan picture! Stop killing TL you little shits. Sorry. I just thought it was slightly funny. | ||
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
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