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food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 20:28:33
October 22 2009 20:21 GMT
#121
This guy could be perfectly sane and reasonable as he is right now, he could also be more valuable and inspiring to society then most "normal" people are. To judge him based on his past without knowing him presently is unfair. Roman Polanski is another example. In reality not all people are equal under the law. Nothing is absolute.
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
October 22 2009 20:29 GMT
#122
On October 23 2009 05:21 food wrote:
This guy could be perfectly sane and reasonable as he is right now, he could also be more valuable and inspiring to society then most "normal" people are. To judge him based on his past without knowing him presently is unfair. Roman Polanski is another example. People are equal under the law, but some are more equal then others. Nothing is absolute.


You do know he COOKED and ATE an innocent girl right?

Also, you do know Roman Polanski drugged and raped a little girl right?

Lol, If I ever commit a terrible crime, I'd like you to be my judge. I'll just say "I'm productive now! tee-hee" and you'll let me go.
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snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
October 22 2009 20:33 GMT
#123
On October 23 2009 02:44 Chef wrote:
I think is goal his to prevent a future crime. The issue is there's no reason to believe he will.

I'd kind of like to know what the girl was thinking on her way to that study session. Probably not much, since study groups are normal, and that late in university you can't be choosy (but then, she went to his own house for dinner, which suggests it was personal)...

Imagine she really liked him and was going to confess her love to him. Oops!


Here's an excerpt of an interview with him (2009):


Do you still have these cannibalistic urges?

Oh yes, definitely. The desire to eat people becomes so intense around June, when women start wearing less and showing more skin. Just today, I saw a girl with a really nice derrière on my way to the train station. When I see things like that, I think about wanting to eat someone again before I die. So yes, I do still harbor these desires, and I specifically want to eat a Japanese woman this time. I think either sukiyaki or shabu shabu [lightly boiled thin slices] is the best way to go in order to really savor the natural flavor of the meat. Can you please call for people who would willingly be eaten by me in your magazine? There’s one condition, though: They have to be young, beautiful women.


source: here
@riotsnowbird
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 22 2009 20:33 GMT
#124
On October 23 2009 04:46 Magic84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 04:17 Chef wrote:
you brought in torture as something that you find "repulsive".

I really don't think I did at all. I said I'd rather be killed and eaten than be tortured. That doesn't say anything about whether I think torture is immoral or not. I don't believe in morality as a sense of human decency. I think what people mislabel morality is really their own personal convenience of what they like and don't like.

is this just an intellectual issue to you? Or do you genuinely believe that you have absolutely no right to judge someone else for any crime at all? II'm not asking about your intellectual beliefs, I'm asking how you feel.

I believe that if someone commits some act (crime or otherwise) and you don't like that act, you have all the right not to like the person, not to want to be around them, and really to do whatever you want. The issue I take is with the idea of giving your actions some higher purpose, like for the sake of morality you kill a dangerous person. No, you killed the dangerous person because you felt threatened. Them committing an act you didn't like, and you taking your revenge shouldn't be justified because "they're immoral" it should be justified because you think it will improve your life.

So I "feel" that it's dangerous and stupid to ignore the real reasons we do things and instead believe that everything is somehow based on morality. I "feel" there's no reason to do anything to this man because he isn't dangerous anymore, he's been in jail (tho he was sentenced longer) and basically we're trying to get revenge on a man because of some false sense of morality, rather than remembering the reasons we had to do anything 30 years ago. My point being that the reasons have expired, they don't hold up anymore, but people's sense of morality never dies and causes them to be vengeful without good reason.

I don't know if that explains well what I mean or not. Certainly 30 years ago I'd have pissed my pants to be in the same house with this person, but today? I'd probably feel safe enough (whether I'd find him amiable or not is a different question).

Well it's more logical to give this man to relatives, mother, father of victim and let them do what they want, kill, torture, dismember alive, feed to dogs.

This way it will be revenge and not only punishment based on morality and social perspective, revenge is a natural, healthy and proper thing to have for human psyche. As well as all the law protections and human rights could be lift off him, so anybody could kill or hurt him with no consequences. But that would create a lot of controversy and additional social problems, so it's better to kill him via official execution.

Hahaha that's absurd.
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Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
October 22 2009 20:34 GMT
#125
On October 23 2009 05:21 food wrote:
This guy could be perfectly sane and reasonable as he is right now, he could also be more valuable and inspiring to society then most "normal" people are. To judge him based on his past without knowing him presently is unfair. Roman Polanski is another example. In reality not all people are equal under the law. Nothing is absolute.


..... what?
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 22 2009 20:47 GMT
#126
On October 23 2009 05:33 snowbird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 02:44 Chef wrote:
I think is goal his to prevent a future crime. The issue is there's no reason to believe he will.

I'd kind of like to know what the girl was thinking on her way to that study session. Probably not much, since study groups are normal, and that late in university you can't be choosy (but then, she went to his own house for dinner, which suggests it was personal)...

Imagine she really liked him and was going to confess her love to him. Oops!


Here's an excerpt of an interview with him (2009):

Show nested quote +

Do you still have these cannibalistic urges?

Oh yes, definitely. The desire to eat people becomes so intense around June, when women start wearing less and showing more skin. Just today, I saw a girl with a really nice derrière on my way to the train station. When I see things like that, I think about wanting to eat someone again before I die. So yes, I do still harbor these desires, and I specifically want to eat a Japanese woman this time. I think either sukiyaki or shabu shabu [lightly boiled thin slices] is the best way to go in order to really savor the natural flavor of the meat. Can you please call for people who would willingly be eaten by me in your magazine? There’s one condition, though: They have to be young, beautiful women.


source: here

I guess at least he wants them to consent this time...

But I'll admit that scares me if that's true. It's hard to say how he means it, and maybe he's just embracing the media attention but in that case... Tho I'm not blood thirsty I wouldn't mind if he dropped dead lol. It's hard to justify preemptively killing someone for a crime they haven't committed (ie a second murder, since the first one has no legal means)... And he's talking about eating a person, not murdering the person (though aside from suicide how else would they die?)

That looks like a job for the men in white coats to me. Take him in until it seems like he's cured, or put him down... No questions about morality here (ours or his) just plain we have the power (well we don't, but if we did) and he doesn't.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 20:49:17
October 22 2009 20:47 GMT
#127
On October 23 2009 05:29 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 05:21 food wrote:
This guy could be perfectly sane and reasonable as he is right now, he could also be more valuable and inspiring to society then most "normal" people are. To judge him based on his past without knowing him presently is unfair. Roman Polanski is another example. People are equal under the law, but some are more equal then others. Nothing is absolute.


You do know he COOKED and ATE an innocent girl right?

Also, you do know Roman Polanski drugged and raped a little girl right?

Lol, If I ever commit a terrible crime, I'd like you to be my judge. I'll just say "I'm productive now! tee-hee" and you'll let me go.


I wouldn't be the judge to begin with unless it was personal. Then again, any of these two made more impact on society than you ever will. If you died in a car accident tomorrow no one would even notice. The fact that this guy was released and became famous is more important than the punishment he escaped. It ridicules the legal system and the values of society. He is ten times more important the way he is. What do you achieve by killing him? It would become another nameless act buried in hundreds of thousands cases.
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 20:56:38
October 22 2009 20:53 GMT
#128
On October 23 2009 05:33 snowbird wrote:
Here's an excerpt of an interview with him (2009):

Show nested quote +

Do you still have these cannibalistic urges?

Oh yes, definitely. The desire to eat people becomes so intense around June, when women start wearing less and showing more skin. Just today, I saw a girl with a really nice derrière on my way to the train station. When I see things like that, I think about wanting to eat someone again before I die. So yes, I do still harbor these desires, and I specifically want to eat a Japanese woman this time. I think either sukiyaki or shabu shabu [lightly boiled thin slices] is the best way to go in order to really savor the natural flavor of the meat. Can you please call for people who would willingly be eaten by me in your magazine? There’s one condition, though: They have to be young, beautiful women.


source: here


He has an army of readers to feed. It is a show he puts on in order to stay in the spotlight. If he expressed a serious desire to kill or posed any kind of threat he would be put into a mental institution.

On October 23 2009 04:46 Magic84 wrote:
Well it's more logical to give this man to relatives, mother, father of victim and let them do what they want, kill, torture, dismember alive, feed to dogs.

This way it will be revenge and not only punishment based on morality and social perspective, revenge is a natural, healthy and proper thing to have for human psyche. As well as all the law protections and human rights could be lift off him, so anybody could kill or hurt him with no consequences. But that would create a lot of controversy and additional social problems, so it's better to kill him via official execution.


In Russia, we eat people when they eat us
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
October 22 2009 20:56 GMT
#129
On October 23 2009 05:47 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 05:29 PanN wrote:
On October 23 2009 05:21 food wrote:
This guy could be perfectly sane and reasonable as he is right now, he could also be more valuable and inspiring to society then most "normal" people are. To judge him based on his past without knowing him presently is unfair. Roman Polanski is another example. People are equal under the law, but some are more equal then others. Nothing is absolute.


You do know he COOKED and ATE an innocent girl right?

Also, you do know Roman Polanski drugged and raped a little girl right?

Lol, If I ever commit a terrible crime, I'd like you to be my judge. I'll just say "I'm productive now! tee-hee" and you'll let me go.


I wouldn't be the judge to begin with unless it was personal. Then again, any of these two made more impact on society than you ever will. If you died in a car accident tomorrow no one would even notice. The fact that this guy was released and became famous is more important than the punishment he escaped. It ridicules the legal system and the values of society. He is ten times more important the way he is. What do you achieve by killing him? It would become another nameless act buried in hundreds of thousands cases.


I never said they should be killed, way to be an ass. I simply don't think they should go unpunished.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 21:23:25
October 22 2009 21:20 GMT
#130
I wonder how the girl's family felt about the result....

Wow he not only is free but makes a living by writing books about the murder and other related appearances? What the fuck.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
October 22 2009 21:29 GMT
#131
On October 23 2009 05:21 food wrote:
This guy could be perfectly sane and reasonable as he is right now, he could also be more valuable and inspiring to society then most "normal" people are. To judge him based on his past without knowing him presently is unfair. Roman Polanski is another example. In reality not all people are equal under the law. Nothing is absolute.

he is sane and reasonable.
we are judging him by his actions, if not that what other way to fairly judge someone? the guy in an interview said he is still looking for a young blonde girl to eat her. seems like he changed? don't talk out of your ass.

im surprise there are people defending this guy.
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
October 22 2009 21:38 GMT
#132
On October 23 2009 05:53 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 05:33 snowbird wrote:
Here's an excerpt of an interview with him (2009):


Do you still have these cannibalistic urges?

Oh yes, definitely. The desire to eat people becomes so intense around June, when women start wearing less and showing more skin. Just today, I saw a girl with a really nice derrière on my way to the train station. When I see things like that, I think about wanting to eat someone again before I die. So yes, I do still harbor these desires, and I specifically want to eat a Japanese woman this time. I think either sukiyaki or shabu shabu [lightly boiled thin slices] is the best way to go in order to really savor the natural flavor of the meat. Can you please call for people who would willingly be eaten by me in your magazine? There’s one condition, though: They have to be young, beautiful women.


source: here


He has an army of readers to feed. It is a show he puts on in order to stay in the spotlight. If he expressed a serious desire to kill or posed any kind of threat he would be put into a mental institution.

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 04:46 Magic84 wrote:
Well it's more logical to give this man to relatives, mother, father of victim and let them do what they want, kill, torture, dismember alive, feed to dogs.

This way it will be revenge and not only punishment based on morality and social perspective, revenge is a natural, healthy and proper thing to have for human psyche. As well as all the law protections and human rights could be lift off him, so anybody could kill or hurt him with no consequences. But that would create a lot of controversy and additional social problems, so it's better to kill him via official execution.


In Russia, we eat people when they eat us

Speaking of it, i wish we still had a death sentence in Russia and also many other things. All the current pro-liberal television bullshit just wrecks minds of people, i find it a social disaster when people come to the point of discussing if such man deserves to be alive, let alone free. And it's not just a forum trolling, it happens irl. This is a betrayal of inherent human side for the sake of fake morals and indifference. I would talk a lot about that.

He is ten times more important the way he is.

Sure this guy is important, my fart is important, it changed the chemical balance of the atmosphere. By the way nobody has any guarantees that he didn't kill somebody else during the last 30 years or if he doesn't plan to do so in the future. He proved it's not a big deal for him.
Monstah-_-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
249 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 22:44:49
October 22 2009 22:41 GMT
#133
This just fucking sickens me. If you eat someone you deserve to get to get tortured for the rest of you're life IMO, minimally living, just on the verge of death, unless its a life or death situation of course. And if you kill someone I think you deserve to die defiantly, IDC about the illness, you deserve to die.
On October 22 2009 11:42 Megalisk wrote:
In Japan, If it can be made into an anime, its legal.


ROFL
you live in the woods and drink vodka
Machine leg
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden52 Posts
October 22 2009 22:51 GMT
#134
one of those pics is really disturbing... shit

I could've lived without this thread .(((
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 22 2009 23:03 GMT
#135
On October 23 2009 07:41 Monstah-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 11:42 Megalisk wrote:
In Japan, If it can be made into an anime, its legal.


ROFL

And that anime is called Kemonozume.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 23:06:32
October 22 2009 23:04 GMT
#136
On October 23 2009 06:38 Magic84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 05:53 food wrote:
On October 23 2009 05:33 snowbird wrote:
Here's an excerpt of an interview with him (2009):


Do you still have these cannibalistic urges?

Oh yes, definitely. The desire to eat people becomes so intense around June, when women start wearing less and showing more skin. Just today, I saw a girl with a really nice derrière on my way to the train station. When I see things like that, I think about wanting to eat someone again before I die. So yes, I do still harbor these desires, and I specifically want to eat a Japanese woman this time. I think either sukiyaki or shabu shabu [lightly boiled thin slices] is the best way to go in order to really savor the natural flavor of the meat. Can you please call for people who would willingly be eaten by me in your magazine? There’s one condition, though: They have to be young, beautiful women.


source: here


He has an army of readers to feed. It is a show he puts on in order to stay in the spotlight. If he expressed a serious desire to kill or posed any kind of threat he would be put into a mental institution.

On October 23 2009 04:46 Magic84 wrote:
Well it's more logical to give this man to relatives, mother, father of victim and let them do what they want, kill, torture, dismember alive, feed to dogs.

This way it will be revenge and not only punishment based on morality and social perspective, revenge is a natural, healthy and proper thing to have for human psyche. As well as all the law protections and human rights could be lift off him, so anybody could kill or hurt him with no consequences. But that would create a lot of controversy and additional social problems, so it's better to kill him via official execution.


In Russia, we eat people when they eat us

Speaking of it, i wish we still had a death sentence in Russia and also many other things. All the current pro-liberal television bullshit just wrecks minds of people, i find it a social disaster when people come to the point of discussing if such man deserves to be alive, let alone free. And it's not just a forum trolling, it happens irl. This is a betrayal of inherent human side for the sake of fake morals and indifference. I would talk a lot about that.


Russia is liberal? You need to wake up. You have just as much freedom as they want you to. You have a taste of it but you never seen beyond that. And from what you've said already seems like you want it to be even stricter. Some people are born slaves, there's nothing you can change.

What's "betrayal of inherent human side"? Does it even mean anything? Kindness and forgiveness are "inherent human side" too or are they not? At least sort your shit out before unloading it.

"Fake morals"? Where did you see that? I am the one saying that morals are bent all the time depending on situation and it's only natural. Basically you are stating that the general idea that this guy had to be prosecuted and either imprisoned or kept in a mental institution is "fake morals". You just threw some words out there that happened to be completely irrelevant.

What about "indifference"? Who's indifferent, someone who gives criminal his second chance or someone who's centered on vengeance? You don't even have an argument.

Sure this guy is important, my fart is important, it changed the chemical balance of the atmosphere. By the way nobody has any guarantees that he didn't kill somebody else during the last 30 years or if he doesn't plan to do so in the future. He proved it's not a big deal for him.


No, your fart isn't important, you are not important( no more then your fart is). It might shock you, but this guy is already beyond what you will ever be just by being alive and doing the shit he does.

By the way nobody has any guarantees that you didn't kill somebody during all the 13 years of your life. Actually nobody has guarantees you aren't mentally challenged either, I'm still talking to you though.
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 23:28:57
October 22 2009 23:27 GMT
#137
On October 23 2009 08:04 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 06:38 Magic84 wrote:
On October 23 2009 05:53 food wrote:
On October 23 2009 05:33 snowbird wrote:
Here's an excerpt of an interview with him (2009):


Do you still have these cannibalistic urges?

Oh yes, definitely. The desire to eat people becomes so intense around June, when women start wearing less and showing more skin. Just today, I saw a girl with a really nice derrière on my way to the train station. When I see things like that, I think about wanting to eat someone again before I die. So yes, I do still harbor these desires, and I specifically want to eat a Japanese woman this time. I think either sukiyaki or shabu shabu [lightly boiled thin slices] is the best way to go in order to really savor the natural flavor of the meat. Can you please call for people who would willingly be eaten by me in your magazine? There’s one condition, though: They have to be young, beautiful women.


source: here


He has an army of readers to feed. It is a show he puts on in order to stay in the spotlight. If he expressed a serious desire to kill or posed any kind of threat he would be put into a mental institution.

On October 23 2009 04:46 Magic84 wrote:
Well it's more logical to give this man to relatives, mother, father of victim and let them do what they want, kill, torture, dismember alive, feed to dogs.

This way it will be revenge and not only punishment based on morality and social perspective, revenge is a natural, healthy and proper thing to have for human psyche. As well as all the law protections and human rights could be lift off him, so anybody could kill or hurt him with no consequences. But that would create a lot of controversy and additional social problems, so it's better to kill him via official execution.


In Russia, we eat people when they eat us

Speaking of it, i wish we still had a death sentence in Russia and also many other things. All the current pro-liberal television bullshit just wrecks minds of people, i find it a social disaster when people come to the point of discussing if such man deserves to be alive, let alone free. And it's not just a forum trolling, it happens irl. This is a betrayal of inherent human side for the sake of fake morals and indifference. I would talk a lot about that.


Russia is liberal? You need to wake up. You have just as much freedom as they want you to. You have a taste of it but you never seen beyond that. And from what you've said already seems like you want it to be even stricter. Some people are born slaves, there's nothing you can change.

What's "betrayal of inherent human side"? Does it even mean anything? Kindness and forgiveness are "inherent human side" too or are they not? At least sort your shit out before unloading it.

"Fake morals"? Where did you see that? I am the one saying that morals are bent all the time depending on situation and it's only natural. Basically you are stating that the general idea that this guy had to be prosecuted and either imprisoned or kept in a mental institution is "fake morals". You just threw some words out there that happened to be completely irrelevant.

What about "indifference"? Who's indifferent, someone who gives criminal his second chance or someone who's centered on vengeance? You don't even have an argument.

Show nested quote +
Sure this guy is important, my fart is important, it changed the chemical balance of the atmosphere. By the way nobody has any guarantees that he didn't kill somebody else during the last 30 years or if he doesn't plan to do so in the future. He proved it's not a big deal for him.


No, your fart isn't important, you are not important( no more then your fart is). It might shock you, but this guy is already beyond what you will ever be just by being alive and doing the shit he does.

By the way nobody has any guarantees that you didn't kill somebody during all the 13 years of your life. Actually nobody has guarantees you aren't mentally challenged either, I'm still talking to you though.

Don't talk about freedom too much, you don't have that, your people is oppressed with taboos, censorship and restrictions no less than russians, but more from what i've seen. What is a freedom to you, it's like you know what you are talking about.

I don't matter, you don't matter, alright we are nobodies to decide what to do with lives of other people even if they are killers right, especially if they got promoted by TV to celebrity status, and we are all equals to hannibal killers right, not even equals but lesser people? Lets just drop the legal system altogether, everybody is a nobody to decide anything for anybody. You are a train wreck, dude.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 23:49:57
October 22 2009 23:45 GMT
#138
On October 23 2009 08:27 Magic84 wrote:
I don't matter, you don't matter, alright we are nobodies to decide what to do with lives of other people even if they are killers right, especially if they got promoted by TV to celebrity status, and we are all equals to hannibal killers right, not even equals but lesser people? Lets just drop the legal system altogether, everybody is a nobody to decide anything for anybody. You are a train wreck, dude.


your English gets worse when you get angry
get some beer and watch Rurouni Kenshin with me. They originated that peaceful killer shit mang
we can drink for Stalin too
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
October 23 2009 02:44 GMT
#139
he said he's planning to eat another lady in the future in the interview I wonder if that qualifies as conspiracy to murder.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
October 23 2009 05:53 GMT
#140
On October 23 2009 05:47 food wrote:
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On October 23 2009 05:29 PanN wrote:
On October 23 2009 05:21 food wrote:
This guy could be perfectly sane and reasonable as he is right now, he could also be more valuable and inspiring to society then most "normal" people are. To judge him based on his past without knowing him presently is unfair. Roman Polanski is another example. People are equal under the law, but some are more equal then others. Nothing is absolute.


You do know he COOKED and ATE an innocent girl right?

Also, you do know Roman Polanski drugged and raped a little girl right?

Lol, If I ever commit a terrible crime, I'd like you to be my judge. I'll just say "I'm productive now! tee-hee" and you'll let me go.


I wouldn't be the judge to begin with unless it was personal. Then again, any of these two made more impact on society than you ever will. If you died in a car accident tomorrow no one would even notice. The fact that this guy was released and became famous is more important than the punishment he escaped. It ridicules the legal system and the values of society. He is ten times more important the way he is. What do you achieve by killing him? It would become another nameless act buried in hundreds of thousands cases.

I hope he eats you. I bet no one would care about that either.

Lol your name is food.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
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