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However, Napoleonic age seems like it could be fun as well. Mass artillery french~
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
However, Napoleonic age seems like it could be fun as well. Mass artillery french~ | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
"my enemies are many, my equals are none" shit is fucking badass | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
In fact, I don't think I'm buying another Total War game period until they give some of the other theaters of the world more attention. I'm sick of how Eurocentric they've been making everything lately. Medieval was awesome because it had the Turks, Almohads, etc. Rome was awesome because there were Carthaginians, Persians, Greeks, etc. Shogun was awesome for obvious reasons, warrior monks being supreme among them. Empire and Napoleon is really pushing it with the ridiculous Eurocentrism though. Sorry, I don't think there's anything glorious about the Colonial period. That time period can go to hell in a handbasket imo. Half of the fun in Total War was being able to rewrite history with Carthage winning over Rome. Or the Byzantines surviving to reconquer the Western Roman Empire. I don't get a boner thinking about Prussia taking over Europe or England taking over France. I could care less. | ||
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kiykiy
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YES! This! But I guess they kind of already have these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_of_the_Three_Kingdoms_(video_game_series) | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
On February 26 2010 11:37 StorkHwaiting wrote: Three Kingdoms: Total War would be a million times better than yet another tired ass European war game. There's dozens of those already made. Empire: Total War was the first game in the Total War series that I didn't buy. Napoleon will be the second. In fact, I don't think I'm buying another Total War game period until they give some of the other theaters of the world more attention. I'm sick of how Eurocentric they've been making everything lately. Medieval was awesome because it had the Turks, Almohads, etc. Rome was awesome because there were Carthaginians, Persians, Greeks, etc. Shogun was awesome for obvious reasons, warrior monks being supreme among them. Empire and Napoleon is really pushing it with the ridiculous Eurocentrism though. Sorry, I don't think there's anything glorious about the Colonial period. That time period can go to hell in a handbasket imo. Half of the fun in Total War was being able to rewrite history with Carthage winning over Rome. Or the Byzantines surviving to reconquer the Western Roman Empire. I don't get a boner thinking about Prussia taking over Europe or England taking over France. I could care less. Three Kingdoms: Total War would be the most narrow of all the total wars | ||
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
At least with Shogun it was a few different factions of Japanese fighting against Japanese which could have contact with Europeans. | ||
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
I remember getting owned by the Golden Horde ;_; | ||
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
Duuuuuuude. I would cream my pants. | ||
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jonnyp
United States415 Posts
On February 26 2010 11:37 StorkHwaiting wrote: Three Kingdoms: Total War would be a million times better than yet another tired ass European war game. There's dozens of those already made. Empire: Total War was the first game in the Total War series that I didn't buy. Napoleon will be the second. In fact, I don't think I'm buying another Total War game period until they give some of the other theaters of the world more attention. I'm sick of how Eurocentric they've been making everything lately. Medieval was awesome because it had the Turks, Almohads, etc. Rome was awesome because there were Carthaginians, Persians, Greeks, etc. Shogun was awesome for obvious reasons, warrior monks being supreme among them. Empire and Napoleon is really pushing it with the ridiculous Eurocentrism though. Sorry, I don't think there's anything glorious about the Colonial period. That time period can go to hell in a handbasket imo. Half of the fun in Total War was being able to rewrite history with Carthage winning over Rome. Or the Byzantines surviving to reconquer the Western Roman Empire. I don't get a boner thinking about Prussia taking over Europe or England taking over France. I could care less. What?! The Napoleonic era was one of the most politically/militarily charged time periods in all of history; encompassing all of Europe, parts of Northern Africa and eventually Russia. It was literally the first World War. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On February 26 2010 19:00 jonnyp wrote: What?! The Napoleonic era was one of the most politically/militarily charged time periods in all of history; encompassing all of Europe, parts of Northern Africa and eventually Russia. It was literally the first World War. 7 Years War for first World War, imo. | ||
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jonnyp
United States415 Posts
lol good call. Russia even flipped sides to make it seem authentic  (jkjkjk) | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On February 26 2010 13:52 FragKrag wrote: Three Kingdoms would just be 3 different factions of Chinese fighting against Chinese At least with Shogun it was a few different factions of Japanese fighting against Japanese which could have contact with Europeans. Aside from the fact that there was no such thing as "Chinese" people during the Three Kingdoms period, ancient China was extremely diverse geographically and culturally. It was far from "Chinese" vs "Chinese." There was a world of difference between regions back then, all of them with distinct cultures, equipment, ways of fighting, and languages. The difference between Shu and Wei was just as distinct as the difference between Ancient Greeks and Macedonians, I can tell you that much. The saddest part is that I remember you as being Taiwanese for some reason. Maybe I'm wrong, but if you are indeed Taiwanese, then shame on you for making such an ignorant statement about your own heritage -_-. Edit: Mongol: Total War I could totally totally get behind. It could even include India, the Tubo Empire, Khotan and the Tarim Basin region, the old Tangut/Tujue factions, there's tons of diversity there. Central Asia and East Asia could use some serious love from the Total War series. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On February 26 2010 19:00 jonnyp wrote: What?! The Napoleonic era was one of the most politically/militarily charged time periods in all of history; encompassing all of Europe, parts of Northern Africa and eventually Russia. It was literally the first World War. A world that doesn't include much of East Asia, SE Asia, Australia, or N/S America is not much of a world... Maybe the Eurocentric world, but tip of North Africa and Russia + Europe is far from inclusive of the world. The first world war was actually WW2. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
On February 27 2010 13:58 StorkHwaiting wrote: Aside from the fact that there was no such thing as "Chinese" people during the Three Kingdoms period, ancient China was extremely diverse geographically and culturally. It was far from "Chinese" vs "Chinese." There was a world of difference between regions back then, all of them with distinct cultures, equipment, ways of fighting, and languages. The difference between Shu and Wei was just as distinct as the difference between Ancient Greeks and Macedonians, I can tell you that much. The saddest part is that I remember you as being Taiwanese for some reason. Maybe I'm wrong, but if you are indeed Taiwanese, then shame on you for making such an ignorant statement about your own heritage -_-. Edit: Mongol: Total War I could totally totally get behind. It could even include India, the Tubo Empire, Khotan and the Tarim Basin region, the old Tangut/Tujue factions, there's tons of diversity there. Central Asia and East Asia could use some serious love from the Total War series. How does some overglorified story represent my heritage? Then if you're going to differentiate between different Chinese, why is it so hard to differentiate between Germany and France? Or Austria and France? Or France and England? There are definitely just as many differences, if not more differences between European countries. Why is it sad that I don't want a bland game based off of a glorified Chinese civil war? Of course World War 1 was the first world war. There was fighting in Africa, there was fighting in Asia, and there was fighting in Europe. Is that not enough? | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On February 27 2010 14:39 FragKrag wrote: How does some overglorified story represent my heritage? Then if you're going to differentiate between different Chinese, why is it so hard to differentiate between Germany and France? Or Austria and France? Or France and England? There are definitely just as many differences, if not more differences between European countries. Why is it sad that I don't want a bland game based off of a glorified Chinese civil war? Of course World War 1 was the first world war. There was fighting in Africa, there was fighting in Asia, and there was fighting in Europe. Is that not enough? As someone who loves history it appalls me that you are boiling things down to such an elementary level. We could just as easily summarize all things war related as "killing people" and ask why do you want to play a bland game based on killing people? Using that kind of reductionist logic doesn't actually say anything meaningful. I've given a very clear reason why I think Napoleon:Total War is bland and uninteresting. It's been done a million times before! The Total War series has been set in the same damn Europe map since Medieval: Total War 1. That shit gets old. Especially when it glorifies a time that I find offensive. Plain and simple, they've made FIVE games set in the European theater. I think it's time for a change of locale. A brilliant one would be East Asia for obvious reasons. It doesn't have to be specifically Three Kingdoms. I could name 20 factions off the top of my head that are in E. Asia that are not at all Han Chinese. The only reason I said Three Kingdoms would be cool is because Three Kingdoms guarantees it would move to a totally different geography. Not only that but E. Asia works because they had very highly developed military sciences and troop types etc etc. They've got all the raw material necessary to make a fantastic Total War game. Napoleon on the other hand has been done SO SO many times. There are at least a dozen Napoleonic war games I could pick up. And I've played 5 of them already. Some were fun, some weren't. But when I found myself only interested in the dragoon charges and flanking cannon emplacements, I realized that I'm not interested in the gunpowder era fighting whatsoever. And if we're talking medieval era technology, well then one of the best places to set it in would be Asia, including Central Asia, the Eurasian steppe, SE Asia, and the Pacific islands including Japan. | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1015 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
That's the same shit with Sc2. Did you see how they nerfed Protoss in their last Sc2 patch whereas it is the only race with ninjas ? All i see is a bunch of reference to Western European culture: Thor with Arnold voice, Valkyries, Goliath etc... And the SCV guy isn't even black anymore ! The only thing remotely Asian is the Yamato thing but eh Japanese were imperialists too -.- I don't see anything Chinese in all those games... I will stick to SF4 and Chun-Li until Jackie Chan gets hired to dub the Dark Templar. | ||
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