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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-31 06:59:10
August 31 2009 06:53 GMT
#1
So semester begins today, so before I go to bed and wake up to go to class I decide to go to the University website, double check schedule, check email, etc.

Most of it is just random announcement spam, except one. Which is from the Ethics class professor, which stars not on a regular start date like all my other classes but on Oct 21st. It is the syllabus for the class when I am reading the email I'm thinking,"so early before the class meets?", but whatever maybe he is just getting it out there. I start to read the syllabus attachment and am starting to wonder what the fuck kind of class I registered for.

Course description from said emailed Syllabus:
+ Show Spoiler +


This Telecourse meets the same goals as the classroom version of ETHC 2030, but by an entirely different route. The independence of the Telecourse method in itself gives greater freedom in time and space—you can study when you please and you do not have to “be there.”

The freedom to study also carries special responsibilities. The successful student must have greater discipline, greater initiative, and greater creative talents than the regular classroom program requires—in addition to all the usual skills and abilities of a college student. Most students may find that a good Telecourse is not “easy,” but in many respects is harder than classroom courses. Nevertheless, even when it may be harder, it is certainly more rewarding and interesting—for the Telecourse is, after all, customized for every student.

Ethics 2030, in all its forms, introduces Moral Philosophy to the college student who has no previous study in this area. The course covers the fundamentals in a) the terminology of Moral Philosophy, b) the various theories of Moral Philosophy, and c) some of the methods of moral argumentation, or reasoning.

Our Telecourse venue approaches these subjects by a technique popularly known as the Case Study Method. That is, the topics are examined (in the text and in the videotapes) by first presenting a true-life scenario that contains a moral conflict or problem, secondly allowing each person to respond to the situation with his or her own judgment for action, and thirdly evaluating the various answers to see if a best answer can be made. The Case Study Method assumes that the participants already have wisdom and experience in the topics discussed, but we shall see that this assumption itself admits of considerable variation. Some people are wiser than others.

Midterm, an essay-test will be due, in which the students show what they have learned in those weeks. It is not advisable to do research or to use outside sources—we are looking for your understanding of the materials assigned, and for your ability to respond intelligently to those materials. The tests will cover the six tapes and the corresponding textbook chapters, but these do not always “match-up” in time. Before each test, I will explain the materials to be covered; but the tests are take-home and one week is allowed for sending them back.

If you study the materials, you will find that some popular opinions are not very wise. One such opinion is Relativism—the belief that morality is different for different cultures or different individuals. Relativism is rejected by philosophers, moral theorists, and everybody who has good sense. We are not here to reject all theories (skepticism) nor to embrace every idiotic theory that comes along (post-modernism). We are here to find out what really is wise. Although this attempt is not easy, it is worth the effort. Even if we never achieve complete success, we can at least rule out some of the worst errors.

When I send out the tests, by email and as announcements on your my.Southwest page, I will try to explain what I am after by way of an answer. All the questions asked are difficult to answer, in the sense that they put you between a rock and a hard place—for example, should a lawyer or a priest betray someone’s trust if it prevents a great injustice from happening? Or should you lie when the outcome of the truth is awful? The point is to examine these real-life “paradoxes” from both sides, and then make a wise choice.

We use ONLY the “Ethics in America Study Guide” for this course (skip Chapters 1 and 13), sold in our college bookstore. We do NOT use the “Resource Reader,” so you need not buy that. We use ALL the videotapes in the series. Read one chapter each week, and watch one video; some videos are repeated on TV, so the book and the video will not always match-up. But if you do one of each every week, as scheduled on TV, in the end it will come out. The schedule is online, and the tapes are available at our library as well.



I already bought both the fucking books as was directed by the fucking worksheet/schedule the college provides. Another thing is the class meets inside a room, so why the hell will he be sending tests etc. by email.

just my fucking luck, I will have to learn from a god damn TV rather than an actual teacher in the fucking classroom which is less hassle, and easier. Nowhere in the fucking catalog, or course search does it say telecourse god damnit.

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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24784 Posts
August 31 2009 07:35 GMT
#2
Yeah I actually hate most college class modernization where things are placed online/etc. I have no problem with technological supplements to college classes.... but I hate when things are moved to the internet etc.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 31 2009 07:45 GMT
#3
Hahaha... seriously? How are you supposed to ask questions throughout the lecture?

Honestly, it would probably be easier for me too... Wouldn't even really need to take notes, but still... It seems so... I dunno, overpriced? You're paying for an education, you ought to pay less if he's not going to show up.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 31 2009 10:48 GMT
#4
I would hate that too. I'd skip so many lessons just because nobody is going to notice anytime soon, and I'd regret that afterwards.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
August 31 2009 10:53 GMT
#5
wow that sucks lol
not only do you not have face-to-face discussions about ethics, you have to buy all that crap too...
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 31 2009 11:12 GMT
#6
Go ask your money back. This is bullshit.

My lecturers at uni were rude, egotistic, eccentric and generally unhelpful.
Some of them even speak with undecipherable accents.

I know they are more into research and shit but shit If I'm paying for an education I would damn right expect to at least have a lecturer!
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 31 2009 11:15 GMT
#7
On August 31 2009 16:35 micronesia wrote:
Yeah I actually hate most college class modernization where things are placed online/etc. I have no problem with technological supplements to college classes.... but I hate when things are moved to the internet etc.


Yeah and also it's kinda boring to not meet new people at school. Is everyone supposed to sit at home in their solitary confinement chatting to each other or what
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 31 2009 11:28 GMT
#8
On August 31 2009 19:48 spinesheath wrote:
I would hate that too. I'd skip so many lessons just because nobody is going to notice anytime soon, and I'd regret that afterwards.


lol yeah me too, It would feel awesome at first then I would feel like shit
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ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-31 12:31:02
August 31 2009 12:28 GMT
#9
Hm, yeah TV is so much more educational, actually wikipedia and the internet has much knowledge.

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Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
August 31 2009 14:05 GMT
#10
On August 31 2009 15:53 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
If you study the materials, you will find that some popular opinions are not very wise. One such opinion is Relativism—the belief that morality is different for different cultures or different individuals. Relativism is rejected by philosophers, moral theorists, and everybody who has good sense. We are not here to reject all theories (skepticism) nor to embrace every idiotic theory that comes along (post-modernism). We are here to find out what really is wise. Although this attempt is not easy, it is worth the effort.

Well, at least this part sounds promising. Relativism is disgustingly prevalent in academia these days, even if it is not always designated as such.
d1sh0ng
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States103 Posts
August 31 2009 14:08 GMT
#11
Just pretend your on TL the whole time.


Honestly though, I would much prefer to have lectures online instead of those giant lecture halls where you're a speck. That's probably why I went to a small school no one has heard of.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 31 2009 18:25 GMT
#12
Well today has been a fucking disaster. The campus was so packed that campus police had to shut down parts of the parking lot due to people double parking etc. There was zero space for parking, and I said to hell with it and missed my first day of class because campus police kept directing people out.

Hopefully tomorrow will be better.
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